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Hamas arrests Peace Activists

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Are you really asking how me, a random law abiding Canadian (excepting the whole business of terb perhaps) is better than a terrorist entity that intentionally targets Jewish civilians, abuses and oppresses their own people, runs a fundamentalist religious regime, and is massively corrupt? WTF is wrong with you? You obsession is talking you way beyond what even the most nutty, hate filled conspiracy theorist would say.
Yes, I am asking how someone who claims to be law abiding can support state terrorism, apartheid, arbitrary arrests for social media and acts that are even worse than Hamas.
How can you support a religious ethno state with a leader under corruption trials presently trying to avoid ICC investigations?
How can you support a state based on racial superiority and controlled through violence and claim to be morally better than Hamas?

How are you morally any better?
 

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Yes, I am asking how someone who claims to be law abiding can support state terrorism, apartheid, arbitrary arrests for social media and acts that are even worse than Hamas....
Your shrill attempts to claim Hamas are the better side here are pathetic. Why is it you side with Syria, Iran, and Qatar on this in opposition of the views of the Western Democratic world?
 

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Your shrill attempts to claim Hamas are the better side here are pathetic. Why is it you side with Syria, Iran, and Qatar on this in opposition of the views of the Western Democratic world?
Giving up the argument already?
Now you have to try to claim its about Syria or Iran?

I asked you reasonable questions and you cannot answer them reasonably.

I am asking how someone who claims to be law abiding can support state terrorism, apartheid, arbitrary arrests for social media and acts that are even worse than Hamas.
How can you support a religious ethno state with a leader under corruption trials presently trying to avoid ICC investigations?
How can you support a state based on racial superiority and controlled through violence and claim to be morally better than Hamas?

How are you morally any better?
 

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Giving up the argument already?...
Considering you have repeatedly claimed Israel arresting a guy who met with Palestinian and Iranian terrorist groups is somehow way worse that Hamas arresting peace activists for chatting with Israeli Jews, you clearly don't even know what the argument is about.

I have challenged you in multiple threads about why your view of Hamas is so different than the views of most Western Democracies including Canada. Other than your one weak attempt at blaming the "Jewish lobby", you refuse to engage on it.

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How are you morally any better?
Being a Canadian and having my views on Hamas in sync with Canada, the EU, ...., I'm pretty comfortable at claiming the moral high ground over you.
 

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Considering you have repeatedly claimed Israel arresting a guy who met with Palestinian and Iranian terrorist groups is somehow way worse that Hamas arresting peace activists for chatting with Israeli Jews, you clearly don't even know what the argument is about.

I have challenged you in multiple threads about why your view of Hamas is so different than the views of most Western Democracies including Canada. Other than your one weak attempt at blaming the "Jewish lobby", you refuse to engage on it.


Being a Canadian and having my views on Hamas in sync with Canada, the EU, ...., I'm pretty comfortable at claiming the moral high ground over you.
The EU Court removed Hamas from the terrorist list. You are not on the moral high ground anymore. Frank is. You’d better regroup and find some way to rationalize this fast.

And while you are at it, tell us what the status of the settlers that Israel disappeared?

And then tell us about the 400 plus Palestinians held without charge or trial by Israel.
 

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Considering you have repeatedly claimed Israel arresting a guy who met with Palestinian and Iranian terrorist groups is somehow way worse that Hamas arresting peace activists for chatting with Israeli Jews, you clearly don't even know what the argument is about.
No, I claimed Hamas is about the same on that account, based on their arrests of 'spies' or people who talked to those both sides called 'enemies'.
Israel is worse when you take 'administrative detention' into count.

Being a Canadian and having my views on Hamas in sync with Canada, the EU, ...., I'm pretty comfortable at claiming the moral high ground over you.
Again, you will never use the word 'Palestinian' where you can use 'Hamas'.
Your arguments rely on dehumanizing Palestinians by calling them 'Hamas' or 'savages' or 'terrorists'.

You can't acknowledge that the vast majority of Palestinians are just people and that you think they are somehow subhuman and undeserving of even basic human rights.
You really make Trump look civil.
 

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No, I claimed Hamas is about the same on that account, based on their arrests of 'spies' or people who talked to those both sides called 'enemies'....l.
Look at you wriggle around. You have repeatedly said Israel does worse an the example you gave was a guy who met with multiple terror groups.

Again, you will never use the word 'Palestinian' where you can use 'Hamas'.
Funny. I talk about Hamas because I am talking about Hamas. Hamas are the terrorist entity, not the majority of Palestinians. Why are you so afraid to discus Hamas?
 

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Hamas hails European court's decision to remove it from world's terrorism list

Of course you only use the word 'terrorism' as an excuse to strip basic human rights and dehumanize.
I think both sides should just be judge by the rule of law and charged for any war crimes or crimes against humanity found by human rights organizations or the ICC.
Both sides.
 

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I talk about Hamas because I am talking about Hamas. Hamas are the terrorist entity, not the majority of Palestinians. Why are you so afraid to discus Hamas?
You did it again, you refuse to discuss Palestinians and instead try to label them all as 'Hamas', which for you means 'subhuman', 'savages' or not deserving of basic human rights.
 

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You did it again, you refuse to discuss Palestinians and instead try to label them all as 'Hamas', which for you means 'subhuman', 'savages' or not deserving of basic human rights.
Amazing how baldly you can lie about stuff just because you have lost the argument. Also funny to hear you pretending to advocate for Palestinians while telling them you know better than they do.

Fact is Hamas arrested six guys for chatting on zoom with Israeli civilians. But sure, keep trying to argue that arresting a guy for meeting with two terrorist organizations is worse.
 

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Of course you only use the word 'terrorism' as an excuse to strip basic human rights and dehumanize.....
Maybe you should call you MP and tell them Canada is racist for considering Hamas a terror group.

Your 'both sides' shtick would play better if you weren't so busy arguing Hamas war crimes are justified.
 

Frankfooter

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Amazing how baldly you can lie about stuff just because you have lost the argument. Also funny to hear you pretending to advocate for Palestinians while telling them you know better than they do.

Fact is Hamas arrested six guys for chatting on zoom with Israeli civilians. But sure, keep trying to argue that arresting a guy for meeting with two terrorist organizations is worse.
You did it again, you refuse to discuss Palestinians and instead try to label them all as 'Hamas', which for you means 'subhuman', 'savages' or not deserving of basic human rights.
Palestinians would not vote Hamas to lead them if Abbas were to allow elections and resign, as Palestinians want.

If you continue to call all Palestinians 'Hamas', should I call all Israelis 'Otzma Yehudit'?
 

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You did it again, you refuse to discuss Palestinians and instead try to label them all as 'Hamas', which for you means 'subhuman', 'savages' or not deserving of basic human rights.
Palestinians would not vote Hamas to lead them if Abbas were to allow elections and resign, as Palestinians want.

If you continue to call all Palestinians 'Hamas', should I call all Israelis 'Otzma Yehudit'?
'You arguments are getting even more stupid. You briefly tried to claim Hamas was justified in arresting those peace activists because some Palestinians agree with them and have repeatedly tried to pretend the arrest of a guy meeting with two terrorist groups as worse than Hamas' actions. Now your complaining it is racist to blame Hamas for their actions.

If it is too complex for you, average Palestinian people did not arrest these six guys for chatting with Israeli Jews, it was Hamas. I know you like to blame Israel for every action taken by Israeli (Jews) and even things with an obscure connection to Israel but I'm not going to blame the Palestinian people as a whole for something Hamas did.

Why are you unwilling to actually blame Hamas for their actions without trying to pretend Israel is worse?
 

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'You arguments are getting even more stupid. You briefly tried to claim Hamas was justified in arresting those peace activists because some Palestinians agree with them and have repeatedly tried to pretend the arrest of a guy meeting with two terrorist groups as worse than Hamas' actions. Now your complaining it is racist to blame Hamas for their actions.

If it is too complex for you, average Palestinian people did not arrest these six guys for chatting with Israeli Jews, it was Hamas. I know you like to blame Israel for every action taken by Israeli (Jews) and even things with an obscure connection to Israel but I'm not going to blame the Palestinian people as a whole for something Hamas did.

Why are you unwilling to actually blame Hamas for their actions without trying to pretend Israel is worse?
Still waiting for you to address the settlers that Israel disappeared. And don’t play dumb pud...you know exactly what I’m talking about.

And still waiting for you to address the 400 plus Palestinians being held without charge or trial.

Add this to the list, the American Jew who gets beaten and has a knee on his neck for talking peace.

https://electronicintifada.net/blog...e-wrestle-us-citizen-ground-put-knee-his-neck
 
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Frankfooter

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'You arguments are getting even more stupid. You briefly tried to claim Hamas was justified ....two terrorist groups as worse than Hamas' actions. Now your complaining it is racist to blame Hamas for their actions.

..average Palestinian people did not arrest these .. it was Hamas. I know you like to blame Israel... for something Hamas did.

Why are you unwilling to actually blame Hamas for their actions without trying to pretend Israel is worse?
You did it again, you refuse to discuss Palestinians and instead try to label them all as 'Hamas', which for you means 'subhuman', 'savages' or not deserving of basic human rights.
Palestinians would not vote Hamas to lead them if Abbas were to allow elections and resign, as Palestinians want.

If you continue to call all Palestinians 'Hamas', should I call all Israelis 'Otzma Yehudit'?

Israel is occupying Palestine and ruling it through apartheid.
Blame them for the situation.
 

basketcase

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You did it again, you refuse to discuss Palestinians and instead try to label them all as 'Hamas'...
Why would I discuss the Palestinian people when the topic is Hamas arresting 6 guys for chatting with random Israeli Jews? Do you want me to blame all Palestinians for the actions of Hamas the way you blame all Israelis for everything you can think of?
 
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