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At what point does some American take one for the team? I'm a relatively peaceful, fun loving guy, and generally wish harm on no one, however, for Shitler I'm making the exception. Sniper with a high powered rifle and scope from a mile away, surely there would be an opportunity to take him out? Or a secret service agent blowing his brains all over the oval office. Someone, do it for the good of humanity.
 

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At what point does some American take one for the team? I'm a relatively peaceful, fun loving guy, and generally wish harm on no one, however, for Shitler I'm making the exception. Sniper with a high powered rifle and scope from a mile away, surely there would be an opportunity to take him out? Or a secret service agent blowing his brains all over the oval office. Someone, do it for the good of humanity.
Someone deport this illegal immigrant immediately! They come into our countries wishing to cause harm to our citizens and leaders!
 

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The WHO certainly made mistakes but so did trump he made some of the same mistakes at a time where it was even more obvious it was wrong ...

Do I think something needs to be done about WHO yes but let’s wait untill this pandemic is over , they actually do have some vital roles and it doesent help anyone other than politicians who want to deflect blame to attack them now.
 

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The WHO certainly made mistakes but so did trump he made some of the same mistakes at a time where it was even more obvious it was wrong ...

Do I think something needs to be done about WHO yes but let’s wait untill this pandemic is over , they actually do have some vital roles and it doesent help anyone other than politicians who want to deflect blame to attack them now.
WHO is being played by the CCP. If the US doesn't fund WHO, The CCP will.
 

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Someone deport this illegal immigrant immediately! They come into our countries wishing to cause harm to our citizens and leaders!
Trump's made a lot of mistakes but I give him credit for this one. He is the only leader who has the guts to call out the WHO and the UN as a waste of money and are completely useless.
 

Ben19

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WHO is being played by the CCP. If the US doesn't fund WHO, The CCP will.
CHina is paying a VERY small portion of their budget. People also dont realize WHO does more than just pandemics. In my speciality they play an instrumental role in some of the things we deal with...


Yes they need to have a major overhual but not in the middle of a pandemic. They have the infrastructure to deal with somethings that are essential now and we cant for political points mess with that now just like how when a president is in a crisis people for the most part should have some sort of support no matter what political aisle.
 

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There may have been some justification for the WHO before the internet age. But in this age of instant communication, why do you need a middleman? Just access information directly from the necessary sources.

As long as you rely on WHO, you leave yourself open to PRC disinformation. You can't rely on a deeply compromised beaureaucracy.
 

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There may have been some justification for the WHO before the internet age. But in this age of instant communication, why do you need a middleman? Just access information directly from the necessary sources.

As long as you rely on WHO, you leave yourself open to PRC disinformation. You can't rely on a deeply compromised beaureaucracy.
Perhaps I am overly-cynical, I don't rely on anyone who I know has a big pay-off from institutions awaiting them on the backend.
 

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Knuckle Ball

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Now he says that he is considering withholding funding.

Such a strong leader. LOL
He contradicted himself in his own press briefing. First he said he was putting a “very powerful hold” on funding...then when a reporter asked him if that seemed like a good idea in the midst of a pandemic he said he was just “considering” it.

LOL...What a fucking idiot.
 

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The WHO certainly made mistakes but so did trump he made some of the same mistakes at a time where it was even more obvious it was wrong ...

Do I think something needs to be done about WHO yes but let’s wait untill this pandemic is over , they actually do have some vital roles and it doesent help anyone other than politicians who want to deflect blame to attack them now.
Well said!
 

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As an aside, why do people believe that the WHO is controlled by the Chinese when the US is it’s principal funding source?
 

shack

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That’s what he originally said.
BREAKING: President Trump says he is putting a hold on funding to the
@WHO


Where does that say considering. It just said that he was doing it.

How does it fuck the WHO if he is just considering it.

He backtracked. Considering was NOT what he originally said.

Forgive him. He suffers from TDS.
The inability to discern what is real. The loss of independent rational thought. Both are symptoms of tDS.

You praise him for doing something when he only considered doing something, which is what I posted.

Oh yeah, I forgot about being blinded by love to point of losing reading comprehension. More tDS.

Or is the lack of reading comprehension independent of your illness? In that case, trump "loves the poorly educated".
 

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There may have been some justification for the WHO before the internet age. But in this age of instant communication, why do you need a middleman? Just access information directly from the necessary sources.

As long as you rely on WHO, you leave yourself open to PRC disinformation. You can't rely on a deeply compromised beaureaucracy.
I much prefer having an international body to coordinate things rather than having to rely on whatever government or corporation that happens to get the data.

And what people obviously miss is that since China is where the virus first hit, the medical community needs China's cooperation to access all the data needed to figure out what the hell we're dealing with. Even where they deserve it, shitting all over China won't get them to release what we need.
 

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WHO director threatens nations with "body bags" wording. The panic in his voice. He knows he is getting sacked.

 

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Opinion | Blaming the WHO and China Is Not Scapegoating
Rich Lowry04/08/2020 07:59 PM EDT
President Donald Trump slammed the World Health Organization at a news briefing this week, and was immediately accused of scapegoating.​

Peter Baker of The New York Times tweeted that “Trump has found a new villain for the coronavirus pandemic.” John King of CNN said that Trump was in search of a scapegoat, and The Guardian newspaper described the president as “in an increasingly frantic effort to shift blame.”

There’s no doubt that Trump is always inclined to shift blame when possible (and even when it isn’t). He’ll never take ownership of the testing debacle at the outset of the administration’s coronavirus response or admit it was wrong and foolish initially to minimize the virus, as he tried to change the media narrative and talk up the stock market.

Yet none of this detracts from the force of his critiques of China (although he blows hot and cold on that) and the WHO, which are at the center of this international catastrophe and must be held to account.

Without China’s deceit and WHO’s solicitude for Beijing, the outbreak might have been more limited, and the world at the very least would have had more time to react to the virus. China committed unforgivable sins of commission, affirmatively lying about the outbreak and punishing doctors and disappearing journalists who told the truth, whereas the WHO committed sins of omission—it lacked independence and courage at a moment of great consequence.

In effect, China and the WHO worked together to expose the rest of the world to the virus, at the same time they downplayed its dangers.

China acted as you’d expect. Countries that run gulags for religious minorities typically aren’t noted for their good governance and transparency. Chernobyl-type cover-ups are what they do. The purpose of the Chinese Communist Party isn’t to protect its citizens, let alone the welfare of other countries, but to do whatever seems best-suited to maintain its dictatorial grip on power at any given moment.

The WHO is supposed to be different. It says its values “reflect the principles of human rights, universality, and equity.” According to its constitution, “The health of all peoples is fundamental to the attainment of peace and security and is dependent on the fullest co-operation of individuals and States.”

But it’s hard to see how the WHO would have acted any differently if it’s constitution contained a proviso stipulating that it should validate Chinese propaganda as much as possible, especially in a world-threatening outbreak of a dangerous new virus.

On Jan. 14, WHO tweeted that “preliminary investigations” by Chinese authorities had found no evidence of human-to-human transmission of the coronavirus. Several days later, it reported “limited” human-to-human transmission, although it downplayed the finding as typical of respiratory illnesses. So, the WHO endorsed China’s narrative during the crucial early days of its cover-up.

Then, the WHO declined to call the outbreak in China a public health emergency of international concern on Jan. 22, at the same time there were confirmed cases in Taiwan, Australia, Japan, Thailand, and South Korea. After the WHO finally declared the emergency, it proceeded to drag its feet on declaring a pandemic, waiting until March 12.

One of the worst things China did was seal off Hubei province from the rest of the country while flights continued around the world. Was the WHO concerned about that? No, it was fully on board. As a headline in Reuters put it in early February, “WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus.”

In the course of issuing stern warnings against travel restrictions, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus opined that if “it weren’t for China, the number of cases outside China would have been very much higher.” At the time, a Chinese official harshly criticized travel restrictions, reminding everyone that “all these measures are seriously against recommendation by the WHO.”

Incredibly enough, in late January, Tedros was praising Chinese officials for “the transparency they have demonstrated.” A team of experts lauded China’s response after a mid-February visit to Wuhan, contributing to Beijing’s storyline that it succeeded in containing the virus where everyone else has failed. Despite the emerging consensus that China has lied about its number of cases and deaths, and despite China’s refusal to share key information about the virus, WHO hasn’t said a discouraging word about China’s actions.

It’s been resolute, though, in excluding Taiwan from its workings, just as Beijing dictates. From a public health perspective, this has it exactly backward. Taiwan has proved quite adept at controlling outbreaks and got this one exactly right, in large part because it didn’t believe anything that China or the WHO said.

In a better world, Tedros would resign immediately and the U.S. would make its continued, ample funding of the organization dependent on his departure.

But that’s not the way United Nations organizations work. Some speculate that Tedros might well be contemplating an eventual bid for secretary general of the U.N., which would put not offending Beijing high on his list of priorities.


Trump takes more than his share of potshots, but that doesn’t mean he’s always off the mark. China and the WHO aren’t scapegoats, but genuine malefactors who deserve all the obloquy the president, and anyone else, can heap on them.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2020/04/08/who-china-trump-coronavirus-176242

Trump is obviously scapegoating the WHO for his own inept response...but for once his criticisms also appear to have some actual basis in fact.
 
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