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These are dangerous people.
 

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Aren't you the one that is advocating that people get back to work, that the economy is more important than lives?
You worried about lives? I agree! That's more important than the economy. But I hope you will worry and try to save those million people's lives(high % will be young) who will loose everything and will kill themselves. The suicidal rate will be double or triple in the next few years as already started in China. Those people will be just statistics. This is a big hypocrisy. Save lives but we don't care what is the price? Many people couldn't accept their loss. Loose everything what you work for in your life, become poor after 30 years honest and hard work, stay the line in the foodbank, loose your house ...etc are not a childhood dream. Many of them become mentally ill, homeless, suicidal...etc. So while we save lives, we will loose much more, within short period. Included those old people who had been saved now, but they will die anyway, within a few years. And before you start your bullshit I have to say: No I'm not a bad person. You are the bad person who live in denial. I'm just a rationalist who live in the real world and not in a rainbow bubble.
 

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2.2 million. Based on best evidence if we do nothing. So...let's start there and then decide. Agree being rational is the best approach.
 

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You worried about lives? I agree! That's more important than the economy. But I hope you will worry and try to save those million people's lives(high % will be young) who will loose everything and will kill themselves. The suicidal rate will be double or triple in the next few years as already started in China. Those people will be just statistics. This is a big hypocrisy. Save lives but we don't care what is the price? Many people couldn't accept their loss. Loose everything what you work for in your life, become poor after 30 years honest and hard work, stay the line in the foodbank, loose your house ...etc are not a childhood dream. Many of them become mentally ill, homeless, suicidal...etc. So while we save lives, we will loose much more, within short period. Included those old people who had been saved now, but they will die anyway, within a few years. And before you start your bullshit I have to say: No I'm not a bad person. You are the bad person who live in denial. I'm just a rationalist who live in the real world and not in a rainbow bubble.
All those bad things, I have experienced in my life and many of us have also experienced that, it does not change my opinion. If we defend against the virus we can expect about a 1% mortality rate, if we do not defend we can expect about a 10% mortality rate. That 9% is worth it to defend.
 

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Aren't you the one that is advocating that people get back to work, that the economy is more important than lives?
People should get back to work BECAUSE lives are important.

Back to the topic. All that anti-racism pc claptrap really bit the leftists where it hurts and has destroyed your way of life. Thoughts?
 

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People should get back to work BECAUSE lives are important.

Back to the topic. All that anti-racism pc claptrap really bit the leftists where it hurts and has destroyed your way of life. Thoughts?
FDA didn’t help either! They help screw up the testing by their blockade of testing for covid -19.

It's Time To Track The FDA's Death Toll

Bureaucracy and Regulation

Authored by James Bovard via The Mises Institute,

https://mises.org/wire/its-time-track-fdas-death-toll



The Food and Drug Administration helped turn the coronavirus from a deadly peril into a national catastrophe. Long after foreign nations had been ravaged and many cases had been detected in America, the FDA continued blocking private testing. The FDA continued forcing the nation’s most innovative firms to submit to its command-and-control approach notwithstanding the pandemic.

South Korean is in a far better situation dealing with coronavirus, because its government did not preemptively cripple private testing.



One of the clearest lessons from the current pandemic is that nothing has changed at one of the nation’s most powerful regulatory agencies.
The FDA is repeating the same mistakes and showing the same arrogance that I chronicled decades ago in articles for the Wall Street Journal, the American Spectator, and other publications.

Dr. David Kessler, who became FDA commissioner in 1990, quickly sought to intimidate the companies that his agency regulates. A laudatory Washington Post article concluded, "What he cannot accomplish with ordinary regulation, Kessler hopes to accomplish with fear."

Kenneth Feather of the FDA's drug advertising surveillance branch boasted:


"We want to say to these companies that you don't know when or how we'll strike. We want to eliminate predictability."



Dr. Kessler's heavy-handed tactics battered the American medical device industry—one of the nation's export superstars. An American Electronics Association survey found that "40% [of medical device companies] reduced the number of U.S. employees because of FDA delays, 29% increased their investment in foreign operations, and 22% moved U.S. jobs overseas." The survey also found that "57% of the firms said the FDA had applied guidance instructions retroactively to some of their submissions," as Biomedical Market Newsletter reported.

The FDA's stonewalling of new medical devices was sometimes politically motivated. A 1994 report by the Medical Device Manufacturers Association noted, "It is not unusual for [FDA] reviewers to express the position that excessive requests [for additional information] are made because of a concern or fear about how a particular member or members of Congress will react" to the approval of a new device. Sacrificing lives was a small price to pay for bureaucrats to avoid bothersome interrogatories from Capitol Hill.

FDA employees also sowed fear with a deluge of official Warning Letters (up more than 300 percent since Dr. Kessler took office) to private companies. Once the FDA issues a Warning Letter, it can seize a company's products or get a court injunction to paralyze its operations. The FDA refused to establish clear guidelines or rules for issuing its letters. As a result, manufacturers could find themselves in a nightmare at the whim of a midlevel FDA employee.

Dr. Kessler did not spare the First Amendment in his grab for power, and cancer patients and other seriously ill people suffered as a result. Doctors, hospitals, and researchers often discover after FDA approval that a drug to treat one disease is also effective at treating other diseases. Drug companies have routinely publicized this news, alerting physicians to other possible ways to save lives. American Medical Association vice president Roy Schwarz estimated that "off-label" uses of drugs account for up to 60 percent of all drugs prescribed.

But in 1991 Dr. Kessler prohibited pharmaceutical companies from informing doctors of new uses for approved drugs. He announced that the FDA would enforce the ban with seizures, injunctions, and prosecutions. Though the agency never finalized its proposed regulations, it warned companies that they would face its wrath if they violated the draft proposals. Dr. Kessler, in a speech before the Drug Information Association, said: "I would urge all members of the pharmaceutical industry to take a long and hard look at their promotional practices. I do not expect companies to wait until this guidance becomes final to put their advertising and promotional houses in order." The question of off-label treatments is becoming a key issue again as doctors search for effective treatments for the COVID-19 coronavirus.

The FDA even suppressed medical textbooks as part of its attempt to restrict what Americans learned about new treatments. In 1992, the FDA cracked down on a company for distributing, for free, portions of Cancer, Principles and Practice of Oncology. In 1993, the FDA stopped a pharmaceutical company from distributing free copies of The Chemotherapy Source Book—even though the company had already received FDA approval to give away thousands of copies. The FDA claimed that when a drug company gives doctors free textbooks that mention an off-label use of its products the drugs become subject to seizure.

Under Kessler, the FDA became far more restrictive in approving new drugs and medical devices. Stanford University professor Dale Geringer observed, "In terms of lives, it's quite possible that the FDA bureaucracy could be killing on the order of three to four times as many people as it saves." One study estimated that 150,000 heart attack victims may have lost their lives as a result of the FDA's delays in approving the emergency blood-clotting drug TPA. National Cancer Institute officials accused the FDA of being "mired in a 1960's philosophy of drug development, viewing all new agents as…poisons."

Dr. Kessler bragged that his reforms had given FDA employees "a place where, once again, the good guys could win." And how could Americans be sure that FDA enforcement agents were the good guys? Because they worked for the government.

Dr. Kessler declared in 1992: "If members of our society were empowered to make their own decisions…then the whole rationale for the [FDA] would cease to exist." Kessler derided "freedom of choice" as an illusion unless people are presented only with government-approved choices. But the FDA “liberated” people by shielding them from information, devices, and drugs that could have saved their lives.

Many Americans could die in the coming weeks and months thanks to the FDA’s blockade on coronavirus testing . Should we consider those victims as martyrs for the principle of bureaucratic supremacy? The FDA’s current commissioner, Stephen Hahn, conceded last week: There are always opportunities to learn from situations like this one.”

Perhaps the clearest lesson is that it is time to track the death toll of FDA regulatory debacles.
 

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This isn't a liberal-conservative issue it's a human issue. Plenty of blame to go around to both sides
 

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You worried about lives? I agree! That's more important than the economy. But I hope you will worry and try to save those million people's lives(high % will be young) who will loose everything and will kill themselves. The suicidal rate will be double or triple in the next few years as already started in China. Those people will be just statistics. This is a big hypocrisy. Save lives but we don't care what is the price? Many people couldn't accept their loss. Loose everything what you work for in your life, become poor after 30 years honest and hard work, stay the line in the foodbank, loose your house ...etc are not a childhood dream. Many of them become mentally ill, homeless, suicidal...etc. So while we save lives, we will loose much more, within short period. Included those old people who had been saved now, but they will die anyway, within a few years. And before you start your bullshit I have to say: No I'm not a bad person. You are the bad person who live in denial. I'm just a rationalist who live in the real world and not in a rainbow bubble.
You say this yet you continue to work!?
https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...tural_beauty_for_sophisticated_lovers-3561946
 

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All those bad things, I have experienced in my life and many of us have also experienced that, it does not change my opinion. If we defend against the virus we can expect about a 1% mortality rate, if we do not defend we can expect about a 10% mortality rate. That 9% is worth it to defend.
It's just simply not true. Got the virus is not a death sentence as many hysterical people believe. You couldn't stop viruses. Same things happened with the Spanish flu. That time citizens were ordered to wear masks, schools, theaters and businesses were shuttered, that time no airplanes ...etc and still millions died. Viruses coming and going since we have written history. The last coronavirus take its toll. The swine flu what was the coronavirus too, infected 20% of the world ( more than 1.5 billion people ) and 300-600 thousands are died. There was low mortality rate because 47% of the infected was younger than 20 years old with very strong immune system and against spanish flu we had a few usable weapons against it, but still 1.5 billion people got it..Unlike most strains of influenza, the Pandemic H1N1/09 swine flu virus does not disproportionately infect adults older than 60 years; this was an unusual and characteristic feature of the H1N1 pandemic. If it's does we have a same story, what we have today. Even in the case of previously very healthy people, a small percentage develop pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. Same as now. Many of us already infected and went through it, without knowing, because you don't shows any symptoms, and non symptoms people are missing from the statistics. When it's finished you'll see the mortality rate will be much less than 1% and not because you stayed home. Because this is the normal things in the nature. Otherwise countries where the BCG shot wasn't mandatory in the past(Canada, USA, ITALY, SPAIN...etc) are in deeper shit. Japan, Russia, Hungary...etc are in better position.
I talked this week my 85 years old grandma. She is still sharp but live in pain for decades. I ask her what do you want? Because old people were never asked about this COVID-19. What they want? Anyone care? So I asked her: Grandma you'll be happy if you are alive for a few years more, but front of your eyes , your whole family (children , grandchildren...etc ) will going down, and they use you as the reason, to do it with your family?? She said: If it's happen my all life was worthless. I fighting and work hard for my family in my all life, so if I have to die to help them to live a normal life, I will without any hesitation. I don't want to see how you, or anyone in my family loose everything because of me. I live in pain for decades as many old people do, fortunately I'm not senile as many old people does, but rather die now than see how my family's life become miserable. That will be more painful then anything in my life. I don't care if I die. Sometimes I feel it would be a salvation for me. And that's true. You couldn't stop the Mother of Nature. She is more powerful than government's order. I know it's painful to accept, but in the nature, just the strongs could survive and the weaks are gone always. It's scary and cruel , but this is the order of Nature!
 

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It was an auto repost 2 days ago It's running out within few days. Don't change the subject. If you can say anything against my post just do it. Otherwise it was a very weak effort. I believe things and you believe things. I don't judge you because you believe this "very deadly" virus. It's your choice. I learned in the past: Never believe in the media. Looking for alternative news is much better. I posted a very good site with DAILY UPDATE but no one care except a few guys from the "I'm still able to thinking' side.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
 

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It was an auto repost 2 days ago It's running out within few days. Don't change the subject. If you can say anything against my post just do it. Otherwise it was a very weak effort. I believe things and you believe things. I don't judge you because you believe this "very deadly" virus. It's your choice. I learned in the past: Never believe in the media. Looking for alternative news is much better. I posted a very good site with DAILY UPDATE but no one care except a few guys from the "I'm still able to thinking' side.

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/
LMAO.Nice try.
 

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Don't judge me because I do not judge you .......... I posted a very good site with DAILY UPDATE but no one care except a few guys from the "I'm still able to thinking' side.
 

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Half A Million Chinese People Entered America At The Height Of The COVID-19 Outbreak


Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,

https://summit.news/2020/04/03/half...ca-at-the-height-of-the-coronavirus-outbreak/

Around half a million Chinese people, some of them infected with coronavirus, entered America from December to February at the height of the COVID-19 outbreak, new figures show.



The numbers, which were obtained from Commerce Department and U.S. Customs and Border Protection records, were compiled by ABC News.

They show that in the three month period when coronavirus was raging across China, 759,493 people entered the U.S. from China.



This number included 228,000 Americans who were returning home, meaning that roughly half a million were Chinese citizens or people living in China who were visiting the U.S. for tourism, business or to see family.

This number of people were pouring into the U.S. while the World Health Organization was simultaneously insisting that no country should enforce any kind of border controls to stop the spread of the virus.

President Donald Trump restricted travel from China from February 2nd onwards, but that was too little too late because the outbreak (which was subsequently covered up by China for two months) had started in Wuhan in November, according to Johns Hopkins University.




According to Dr. Vinayak Kumar, an internal medicine resident at the Mayo Clinic, out of the total figure arriving in the U.S. from China, “a large number might have been infected at the time of travel.”

The numbers illustrate “how globalized our world has become,” he added.

However, infectious disease specialist Dr. Simone Wildes suggested that the virus outbreak was the price of globalization and that Americans would just have to get used to it.



“It shows that globalization is here, and we have to be better prepared to deal with the impact this will have on all our lives in so many ways,” he said.

The data also shows that “From December, January and February on travelers entering the U.S. from eight of the hardest-hit countries: 343,402 arrived from Italy, 418,848 from Spain and about 1.9 million more came from Britain.”



As we document in the video below, while three quarters of a million people, some of them infected with coronavirus, were entering America, political leaders were telling Americans to go out and congregate in huge crowds, including at Chinese Lunar New Year parades.

These are dangerous people.
 
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