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Aircraft carrier captain to be removed from duty after pleading for help w/ outbreak

mandrill

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HAHA!

Like the fuck up John McCain??

People like McCain and this Captain are the type who would "Sing like birds" when caught!!

This captains actions put the protection of America at risk!!!

Who are the " unnamed U.S. officials" Reuters is mentioning????
Didn't McCain resist months of torture by the North Vietnamese and not give them any information?....

Wouldn't want facts to get in the way of you post, now would we?
 

mandrill

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While I agree with you that chain of command is very important in all branches of the service, I think in this case he was right, I also think he knew what he was doing when he broke protocol. I think he's a hero however the navy can't let this go unpunished
Sounds like he tried to go through channels and they just squashed him because it would make the Brass and the President look bad. So he chose the path of Honour rather than play along.

His men cheered him off that ship in the hundreds! What a hero!
 

jcpro

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"Just following orders".
Guess you have never heard of a cute little place called Nuremberg.
Do you ever manage to come up with anything intelligent? Are you seriously comparing the US naval personnel that swear to obey the US CONSTITUTION, the supreme law of their country, to a bunch of Nazis who swore the personal obedience to Hitler? Facepalm. Just go away.
 

apoptygma

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Do you ever manage to come up with anything intelligent? Are you seriously comparing the US naval personnel that swear to obey the US CONSTITUTION, the supreme law of their country, to a bunch of Nazis who swore the personal obedience to Hitler? Facepalm. Just go away.
Prove that 'a bunch of Nazis swore personal obedience'.
You obviously are ignorant of history... It wasn't "for Hitler"... it was "for the Reich".
Read a book.
 

danmand

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Do you ever manage to come up with anything intelligent? Are you seriously comparing the US naval personnel that swear to obey the US CONSTITUTION, the supreme law of their country, to a bunch of Nazis who swore the personal obedience to Hitler? Facepalm. Just go away.
You forgot to answer me:

Are you expecting a Pearl Harbour incident? Who do you expect will attack the Naval Air Station (NAS) North Island, California?

USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71) is scheduled to arrive at its new homeport of Naval Air Station (NAS) North Island, Calif., on Monday.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Do you ever manage to come up with anything intelligent? Are you seriously comparing the US naval personnel that swear to obey the US CONSTITUTION, the supreme law of their country, to a bunch of Nazis who swore the personal obedience to Hitler? Facepalm. Just go away.
You mean the same military that set fire to villages and murdered civilians in Vietnam?

You mean the same military that produced the elite Navy Seal Chief Operations Officer Eddie Gallagher?

Double Face Palm.
 

jcpro

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Prove that 'a bunch of Nazis swore personal obedience'.
You obviously are ignorant of history... It wasn't "for Hitler"... it was "for the Reich".
Read a book.
Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid,
daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes
Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht,
unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will,
jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen." But, of course, you knew that.lol
 

apoptygma

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Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid,
daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes
Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht,
unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will,
jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen." But, of course, you knew that.lol
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

But, of course, you knew that. lol.
 

jcpro

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i, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that i will obey the orders of the president of the united states and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the uniform code of military justice. So help me god.

But, of course, you knew that. Lol.
ROFLMAO!!! You highlighted the wrong part. I fixed it for ya. Now, run along.
 

Ceiling Cat

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You have never been in the service, eh? The flat feet don't have a clue how the military operates. The captain of a ship may not step outside of the chain of command because his role is apolitical and he has several layers of the flag officers above him whom he answers to.

There is a madman at the helm. Trump has cost lives by his delays in addressing the crisis of covid-19. The captain of this carrier had concerns for those who serve under him, that is his crime.
So then he’ll have to accept whatever punishment the navy decides to mete out. Sometimes there is a cost to doing the right thing. He’s still a hero in my book.

We have our heroes in Canada as well, Gen. Roméo Dallaire. He was on a UN peace keeping mission and got news that there may be a massacre, he requested permission to raid compounds where caches of weapons were stored and was denied. He was ordered down the road only to watch the river turn red with blood.
When you're in the military you go through channels or you go nowhere. And that is true in America or Canada or any other place with an effective force.

He has not disobeyed orders, he requested assistance and supplies. It has not been proven he leaked the letter.
This mans career is over whether he leaked the information or not. He will be retired with full pension to kill the story. That is not a fitting end for an honorable man.
 

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jcpro

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apoptygma

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Dance monkey dance.
Thanks for proving (again) that you are not capable of backing up the words that you type.
I mean, it was pretty obvious to most of us, but some extra rock-solid proof never hurts, does it!?
:bounce:
 

jcpro

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Dance monkey dance.
Thanks for proving (again) that you are not capable of backing up the words that you type.
I mean, it was pretty obvious to most of us, but some extra rock-solid proof never hurts, does it!?
:bounce:
Proof? Like your Constitutional Oath assertion that I fixed for you? Again, Yawn.
 

apoptygma

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Proof? Like your Constitutional Oath assertion that I fixed for you? Again, Yawn.
Like the question you refused to answer?
Want me to ask it again.... just in case you missed it the first time?
Easy decision for you... it's a yes or a no.
Lemme guess... I won't get either of those binary responses from you.

So, in advance, I thank you for once again proving you are a fraud.
 

jcpro

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Like the question you refused to answer?
Want me to ask it again.... just in case you missed it the first time?
Easy decision for you... it's a yes or a no.
Lemme guess... I won't get either of those binary responses from you.

So, in advance, I thank you for once again proving you are a fraud.
Boring
 

apoptygma

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Yeah, you are.
A binary question... and even if you were to be able to muster to intellectual fortitude to attempt to answer it, no matter what you choose, it is a single syllable answer.
Thanks for proving (again) that your intellect is that of a shoe.
No wonder everyone here laughs at you and doesn't take a thing you say seriously.
:rofl:
 
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