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Are you going to vote for Trudeau

Are you going to vote for Trudeau

  • Trudeau

    Votes: 11 29.7%
  • Conservative

    Votes: 23 62.2%
  • Ndp

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Green

    Votes: 2 5.4%
  • Maxime Bernier

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Total voters
    37

Butler1000

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Oct 31, 2011
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I doubt this govt is going to fall within the next year or so. So to attempt to determine a vote at this point is an exercise in futility.

This crisis is going to either make or break the govt. So far they are doing things right. But this isn't over yet either.

And the PC's don't have a leader or a platform at this time. And won't for awhile.

Come back after Christmas.....
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
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No, I have told the Liberal party, that they will not get my vote anymore, because the Liberal Government has aggressively supported regime change in Venezuela. I don't think it is Canada's role to decide what government Venezuela or any other country should have. Do we want another country to overturn our government if it does not like it?
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
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Um, there may be an issue or two that arises between now and the election. I'm not sure how people can already decide unless they are just close-minded and vote along party lines without giving a shit of what will happen in the interim.

It's like deciding the verdict on a trial without hearing evidence.
 

jerimander

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Feb 16, 2014
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Trudeau endangered our lives by not closing the border and not instituting flight bans early. Surely even his most mindless supporters must be having second thoughts, if only out of a sense of self-preservation. He should order the manufacture of masks to distribute to all, but don't hold your breath. He is a useless fuck.
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
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No, I have told the Liberal party, that they will not get my vote anymore, because the Liberal Government has aggressively supported regime change in Venezuela. I don't think it is Canada's role to decide what government Venezuela or any other country should have. Do we want another country to overturn our government if it does not like it?
Yes, and all of Canada will likely decide based on Canada's treatment of Venezuela, everyone is just constantly talking about as the major issue of our times right now.
You're onto something here, dan.
 

jerimander

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Feb 16, 2014
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Um, there may be an issue or two that arises between now and the election. I'm not sure how people can already decide unless they are just close-minded and vote along party lines without giving a shit of what will happen in the interim.

It's like deciding the verdict on a trial without hearing evidence.
There's more than enough evidence already. Any more would be superfluous.
 

danmand

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Nov 28, 2003
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Yes, and all of Canada will likely decide based on Canada's treatment of Venezuela, everyone is just constantly talking about as the major issue of our times right now.
You're onto something here, dan.
Sorry, I thought I should explain my vote. I know few people agree with me.

But how would you feel, if the Americans decided that they did not like the liberal government of Canada and recognized Alan Scheer or somebody else as the Prime minister.
 

Frankfooter

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Apr 10, 2015
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Sorry, I thought I should explain my vote. I know few people agree with me.

But how would you feel, if the Americans decided that they did not like the liberal government of Canada and recognized Alan Scheer or somebody else as the Prime minister.
I appreciate that you hold that view that strongly, I'm against regime change there or anywhere else as well.
Its just lower down my list of priorities when it gets down to picking one of the 3 legit options these days.
At least we're not stuck between choosing one of two party of millionaires who only ever respond to lobbyists desires.
 

bver_hunter

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Nov 5, 2005
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No, I have told the Liberal party, that they will not get my vote anymore, because the Liberal Government has aggressively supported regime change in Venezuela. I don't think it is Canada's role to decide what government Venezuela or any other country should have. Do we want another country to overturn our government if it does not like it?
What real influence did Canada exercise in overturning a Government in Venezuela?

Every single Party leader in Canada would have an opinion in that respect. The Conservatives would definitely take the same stand. But I do not see an alternative to Trudeau at the moment.

Do you, and who?
 

jerimander

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Feb 16, 2014
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Trudeau supporters are apparently impervious to logic or even the unpleasant experience to which we have been subjected recently. Fortunately, most people aren't like that, so there is light at the end of the tunnel.
 

bver_hunter

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Nov 5, 2005
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The only ones that are denouncing Trudeau seem to be the usual Trumptard Cult Followers on this Board.

The proof is in the pudding, when you look at Canada's numbers vs the USA's. Canada seem to have taken a far more pragmatic approach, with Trudeau, Freeland and the Government following the advice of the Medical Experts. Unlike the USA where impulse of a certain POTUS matters and they have now officially surpassed all other nations with respect to the numbers infected, along with blatantly low numbers of protective gears for their frontline medical staff!!
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
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There's more than enough evidence already. Any more would be superfluous.
You may feel that way at this moment in time. But as I said, if your mind is made up now without seeing what happens during the rest of his term, is like a jury convicting without seeing all the evidence. What harm is there in saying, probably not based on what I've seen, but let's wait and see. Totally close minded to not do so..

It proves how non-objective you are. You proved my point.
 

shack

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Oct 2, 2001
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I'm against regime change there or anywhere else as well.
I suspect that you wouldn't raise too much objection if some outside influence changed the Israeli regime. Will wait for the rationalization why it would be appropriate there. Boycotting is a form of an attempt at regime change from external entities.

Or are you willing to sit and wait for their parliamentary system to play out with no interference.
 

jerimander

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Feb 16, 2014
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The fact that you are promoting a wait and see attitude proves that you yourself aren't too impressed with what has happened already. Yet you continue to follow him just like the followers of Jim Jones lining up for the Koolaid. It is in the interest of your own self-preservation to replace him as quickly as possible.

I suspect his most fanatical supporters are Muslims who think he is best for their cause. But what's good for them isn't what's good for Canada.
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
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The fact that you are promoting a wait and see attitude proves that you yourself aren't too impressed with what has happened already.
No. It proves that any rational person uses as much information that they can get before making an informed decision. Pretty sure that you agree with making informed decisions. By definition, how can one make an informed decision without all the information?
 

bver_hunter

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Nov 5, 2005
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No. It proves that any rational person uses as much information that they can get before making an informed decision. Pretty sure that you agree with making informed decisions. By definition, how can one make an informed decision without all the information?
You forgot that if Trudeau did not religiously toe the same line as that POTUS in the USA then obviously, "You have to replace him as soon as possible". Even though Provinces like BC are getting some more encouraging data, and Canada's figures though still alarming, are not as scary as the USA's!!
 

Frankfooter

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Apr 10, 2015
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I suspect that you wouldn't raise too much objection if some outside influence changed the Israeli regime. Will wait for the rationalization why it would be appropriate there. Boycotting is a form of an attempt at regime change from external entities.

Or are you willing to sit and wait for their parliamentary system to play out with no interference.
Nah, just implementing equal rights and a chance for all to vote would be fine.
That way incredibly ignorant things like this wouldn't be a daily occurance.
During the Coronavirus crisis, Israel confiscates tents designated for clinic in the Northern West Bank

And certainly I would never call for any country to implement regime change there, just for them to honour basic human rights and abide by international law.
Like all countries should.

Trudeau is doing ok so far, but this is almost the easy part.
The hard part is figuring out how and when social distancing stops and what happens next.
 
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