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Bernie Bros warn of ‘massive exodus’ if Democrats nominate Joe Biden

Butler1000

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Since when did anybody owe anybody else a vote. The issue is ousting trump. Once there is a nominee, that is the person Dems should be championing.
Maybe for you. But for others it's something greater.
 

shack

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Maybe for you. But for others it's something greater.
Individual policies are not greater than the risk of losing their democracy. trump has started chipping away at it and is guaranteed to continue. He must be removed. That is the prime objective.
 

Knuckle Ball

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"Vote Blue no matter Who" says the opposite. As does the continued vote shaming I've seen. By the Media and on line.

If Biden gets the Nom and loses to Trump who will you blame? Biden? Or the voters?
I believe you and the rest of the Trump Supporting Bernie Bros will be close to the top of the list.

And yes...you should be ashamed- you and the Bros are aggressively trying to crash the country into the sun to teach us all a lesson for not voting for your guy. That is a shitty thing to do.

Frankly I am surprised to hear you complaining about “vote shaming.” I don’t believe you guys are capable of experiencing shame so it seems odd this would bother you.
 

Butler1000

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Individual policies are not greater than the risk of losing their democracy. trump has started chipping away at it and is guaranteed to continue. He must be removed. That is the prime objective.
For you. For others the rigging of the primaries, cheerleading of the press, democracy is already dead.

When they turned to Bloomberg it was openly saying the donors run the show. In embracing Bloomberg as a choice they sent a clear message to progressives,along with the attacks on Sanders.

You are not welcome in the party.
 

Butler1000

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I believe you and the rest of the Trump Supporting Bernie Bros will be close to the top of the list.

And yes...you should be ashamed- you and the Bros are aggressively trying to crash the country into the sun to teach us all a lesson for not voting for your guy. That is a shitty thing to do.

Frankly I am surprised to hear you complaining about “vote shaming.” I don’t believe you guys are capable of experiencing shame so it seems odd this would bother you.
You are doing the same for supporting Biden, who helped create the conditions that got Trump elected.

They weren't the good old days, they were very bad old days.

And you just vote shamed. Just as I predicted. The Dems aren't entitled to votes. They have to earn them.
 

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The Super delegates will pick someone else. Biden is losing his mind. My guess will be Bloomberg. And why try convincing millions of people to vote for Biden, and instead give us one person to vote for. If you are really scared of Trump. Its easier to change one person (nominee) then change 10s of millions of people's minds.
 

Butler1000

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The Super delegates will pick someone else. Biden is losing his mind. My guess will be Bloomberg. And why try convincing millions of people to vote for Biden, and instead give us one person to vote for. If you are really scared of Trump. Its easier to change one person (nominee) then change 10s of millions of people's minds.
So in hobby terms...

Bait and Switch......
 

shack

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For any rational person. What good is a few policies if the democracy is lost. No policy is safe without democracy.

You are irrational.
 

Butler1000

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For any rational person. What good is a few policies if the democracy is lost. No policy is safe without democracy.

You are irrational.
It's not democracy. It's already close to an Oligarchy. The donors run the show.
 

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Bernie should run as a third party candidate (given that’s what he’s always been anyway). There are some here that believe Trump has a core base of 30%. No one is excited about Biden. In Sanders mind there has to be an opening for a third party candidate that could make the other two look the same. If he could split the TDS vote and bring along the young he might do as well as Biden. Then it all comes down to swing states.
 

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It's not democracy. It's already close to an Oligarchy. The donors run the show.
I think that both Trump and Bloomberg demonstrated the impact limit of money in elections. Biden’s recent ascension came when he had almost no money.
 

Butler1000

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I think that both Trump and Bloomberg demonstrated the impact limit of money in elections. Biden’s recent ascension came when he had almost no money.
It came imo because the DNC stepped in after SC and laid the Hamner down. Then the tame press went to town.

I will add I was wrong about Biden's likability in the Black community. Being Obama's boy brought him votes.

He isn't Hillary 2.0. But I think he might be Kerry 2004 2.0.

Bloomberg didn't have a chance. But he did buy 10%. If he had been a decent candidate and not an arrogant fuck he might have had the 15% threshold.
 

Butler1000

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Bernie should run as a third party candidate (given that’s what he’s always been anyway). There are some here that believe Trump has a core base of 30%. No one is excited about Biden. In Sanders mind there has to be an opening for a third party candidate that could make the other two look the same. If he could split the TDS vote and bring along the young he might do as well as Biden. Then it all comes down to swing states.
I really wish he would.
 

Butler1000

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Of course you'd like that, it would split the dem vote and guarantee Trump returned.
Not necessarily. He would take alot of independent voters and some from both parties. You can't say for sure he wouldn't catch fire and win.
 

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I really wish he would.
Frankly, I don’t know what’s stopping him. He can raise money, he despises the Corp Dems as much as the GOP. He will never have another chance......
 

Butler1000

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Frankly, I don’t know what’s stopping him. He can raise money, he despises the Corp Dems as much as the GOP. He will never have another chance......
He is so far missing a killer instinct. It may come out tonight. If it doesn't then I think his campaign, barring Biden totally melting down, may falter.

The movement will continue. As you said the fundraising, communication, alternative media is shaping up nicely.
 

onthebottom

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He is so far missing a killer instinct. It may come out tonight. If it doesn't then I think his campaign, barring Biden totally melting down, may falter.

The movement will continue. As you said the fundraising, communication, alternative media is shaping up nicely.
Yes but there is no other leader. I’ve seen several Bernie signs up here (OH) and not a single Biden sign. Primaries Tuesday here.
 

Frankfooter

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He is so far missing a killer instinct. It may come out tonight. If it doesn't then I think his campaign, barring Biden totally melting down, may falter.

The movement will continue. As you said the fundraising, communication, alternative media is shaping up nicely.
I think you overestimate how popular Sanders policies are.
Take the quiz and see how far off base you are and where Sanders really stands.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/sanders-poll-quiz/
 
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