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Canadian told he can't board flight home from Jamaica because of rule he didn't know

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TORONTO -- A 96-year-old Canadian man trying to get home from Jamaica was told he couldn't board his flight because of a travel rule he didn't know existed.

Charles Smith, a Canadian-British dual citizen, and his daughter Karen Johnson, a permanent resident of Canada, had booked two roundtrip business-class tickets with Air Canada to Jamaica in late January to attend the funeral of a family member.

They both flew to Jamaica without issue using their valid British passports. But on Feb. 11, when they arrived at the airport to return home to Toronto, they were told there was a problem.

"When we went to check in the agent said my father couldn't fly because his documents aren't in order," Johnson told CTV News Toronto on Friday. "I couldn’t believe this was happening."

Johnson was told by an Air Canada agent that because her father is a dual Canadian citizen, he needs a valid Canadian passport to re-enter the country.

According to the Government of Canada's website, starting in November 2016, dual Canadian citizens can no longer travel to or transit through Canada by air with a non-Canadian passport. The major exception to this rule is for American-Canadian dual citizens, who can travel with either passport.

Johnson said her father has travelled into Canada many times prior to 2016 without a Canadian passport and said they were both unaware the rules had changed.

Johnson said she and her father were told to leave the airport and go to the Canadian embassy to apply for a temporary passport. The embassy told them that Smith needed a passport but said the process can take up to seven business days, meaning they missed their flight.

"My father is 96 and he has medication in Canada he needs to take," Johnson said. She said her father takes a number of medications and it would be unsafe for him to be without his prescriptions.

"The Air Canada agent said if you need medication, then go see a doctor. She had no compassion."

"We couldn’t wait seven days."

Johnson said that because her father’s supply of medication was running out, she needed to find a quicker option home.

"It was suggested by someone that we could fly through America and then drive across the Canadian border," Johnson said. "The following day we went back to airport and booked a flight to Buffalo."

Nearly 24 hours after they were originally scheduled to depart Jamaica, the pair flew to Buffalo, N.Y., a city next to Niagara Falls, Ont. They rented a car and drove across the border without issue and arrived home safely.

"Thank God my father is as strong as he is,” Johnson said. “He didn’t have his medication for one day."

"He gets very confused. In Jamaica he thought because he didn’t have a Canadian passport that he was going to be arrested. It was a massive stress on his mind."

Johnson said she wishes Air Canada warned them about the issue before they left Canada.

"Why did they let me leave the country if I didn't have the right documents? We sailed through with no problem," Johnson said.

Johnson and Smith were not reimbursed for their $1,500 fight back to Toronto and are also on the hook for approximately $1,000 in fees for the American Airlines flight to Buffalo.

She said she has reached out to Air Canada and has filed a formal complaint but is waiting on a response.

CTV News Toronto has contacted Air Canada for comment on the issue.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/canadian...ause-of-rule-he-didn-t-know-existed-1.4822598
 

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It’s not Air Canada’s job to check everyone’s travel documents to know they are in order. When you book your ticket it doesn’t ask you what passport you are traveling on. It’s the travelers responsibility to make sure you have the proper documentation for your trip.
 

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It’s not Air Canada’s job to check everyone’s travel documents to know they are in order. When you book your ticket it doesn’t ask you what passport you are traveling on. It’s the travelers responsibility to make sure you have the proper documentation for your trip.
Okay, but it's still fucking bull shit IMO. If your a dual citizen, your a fucking citizen and have the right to come home. Further more, it applies to everyone with the exception of American/Canadian dual citiziens?? For what reason and stop fucking making "exceptions". Either you need a Canadian passport or you don't.
 

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My comments....

Too bad, it's only 7 days, suck it up
If you're a Canadian travelling overseas always carry with your passport
Filing a formal complaint? Give me a break.
A 96 year old man travelling to Jamaica (or anywhere for that matter) without medication or sufficient medication is not the sharpest pencil out there. And his daughter who was his guardian was stupid to take him out of the country
Air Canada only mistake here was to let a 96 year old travel since if there was any problems in flight then they would have a problem
 

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My comments....

Too bad, it's only 7 days, suck it up
If you're a Canadian travelling overseas always carry with your passport
Filing a formal complaint? Give me a break.
A 96 year old man travelling to Jamaica (or anywhere for that matter) without medication or sufficient medication is not the sharpest pencil out there. And his daughter who was his guardian was stupid to take him out of the country
Air Canada only mistake here was to let a 96 year old travel since if there was any problems in flight then they would have a problem
Ah, no. The dual citizenship excuse is a clear violation of the Charter. Any Canadian citizen has the right to leave and enter Canada as he/she pleases.
 

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My comments....

Too bad, it's only 7 days, suck it up
If you're a Canadian travelling overseas always carry with your passport
Filing a formal complaint? Give me a break.
A 96 year old man travelling to Jamaica (or anywhere for that matter) without medication or sufficient medication is not the sharpest pencil out there. And his daughter who was his guardian was stupid to take him out of the country
Air Canada only mistake here was to let a 96 year old travel since if there was any problems in flight then they would have a problem
Of course, blame a 75 y.o. daughter of a 96 y.o. man. This is crazy. When someone check in on international flight, you always nee do enter the passport details and show the passport at the gate, so, such entry rule can be explained by Air Canada,. And, finally, the agent in Jamaica can simply ignore the guy's statement that he is Canadian and allow him to board with U.K. passport (no visa is needed) and, once he will arrive to Canada, he will be either admitted as a British citizen or, more likely, as Canadian after some verification was done. There will be no ground to deport him so, Air Canada will not be on the hook with having to fly him back to Jamaica. Just a lazy agent who were not able to interpret the rules in a different way.
 

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Okay, but it's still fucking bull shit IMO. If your a dual citizen, your a fucking citizen and have the right to come home. Further more, it applies to everyone with the exception of American/Canadian dual citiziens?? For what reason and stop fucking making "exceptions". Either you need a Canadian passport or you don't.
Because an American/Canadian dual citizen is obliged to enter and exit the US using a US Passport....along with filing annual Tax Returns to the IRS, as the US taxes based on Citizenship, and not Residency.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...nality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html
 

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Ah, no. The dual citizenship excuse is a clear violation of the Charter. Any Canadian citizen has the right to leave and enter Canada as he/she pleases.
I would expect we all need proof of citizenship (which if he only had his Brit passport he didn't have). But it wasn't Canada who made the decision but rather the airline who is liable for the costs if he was refused entry. I doubt they have the ability to quickly consult with the Canadian customs on things like this so they go by the book.


If he also had his Canadian passport with him then it would be stupid to deny him.
 

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I would expect we all need proof of citizenship (which if he only had his Brit passport he didn't have). But it wasn't Canada who made the decision but rather the airline who is liable for the costs if he was refused entry. I doubt they have the ability to quickly consult with the Canadian customs on things like this so they go by the book.


If he also had his Canadian passport with him then it would be stupid to deny him.
He had British passport, so, if we was also Canadian, he would be admitted as Canadian (even without passport on him - it will just take longer). If he was not Canadian - he would be admitted as a visitor (U.K. citizens do not need visa). Under no circumstances he would have been turned down and airlines would be forced to fly him back to Jamaica. The airline clerk should have simply suggested him not to say that he is Canadian during the boarding (nowhere during check-in you are required to disclose all your passports) and the problem would be solved.
 

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Because an American/Canadian dual citizen is obliged to enter and exit the US using a US Passport....along with filing annual Tax Returns to the IRS, as the US taxes based on Citizenship, and not Residency.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...nality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html
Okay, well that's still bull shit. If your going to enforce Canadians to show a passport to come home, do it to everyone. Not everyone's else problem the U.S makes Canadian/Americans show the U.S passport when entering or leaving the country.
 

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The airline clerk should have simply suggested him not to say that he is Canadian during the boarding (nowhere during check-in you are required to disclose all your passports) and the problem would be solved.
It's not even her job to make that fucking call, so why the fuck would she would she care if he boards the plane??
 

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A Canadian passport is a travel document. If you are traveling outside of the country you need to bring it with you. As a proud CANADIAN when I travel I bring it with me.
 

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I would expect we all need proof of citizenship (which if he only had his Brit passport he didn't have). But it wasn't Canada who made the decision but rather the airline who is liable for the costs if he was refused entry. I doubt they have the ability to quickly consult with the Canadian customs on things like this so they go by the book.


If he also had his Canadian passport with him then it would be stupid to deny him.
You know, they can always fall back on their knowledge of the Charter- from the elementary school.
 

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I really don't get it. If I'm a citizen of a country what doesn't need visa to Canada, why I lose my privilege to use my passport issued by that country? Why I get penalty and why they make my life miserable? Because I'm a Canadian citizen? I have right to travel around the world with my UK passport, except my own country? At the same time the non-canadian UK citizen could travel to Canada without any problem? It's a real stupid law.
 

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A Canadian passport is a travel document. If you are traveling outside of the country you need to bring it with you. As a proud CANADIAN when I travel I bring it with me.
It's a document for leaving the country to enter another country, you don't need to come home. You can't be denied into the country your a citizen of. The CBA will handled the situation when you get back to Canada. It's there job to figure out what to do, not an airline employee's. The man would have dealt with the same situation by boarder agent when he got back to Canada so they should let him get on the fucking plane.


Something seems amiss here. The daughter who's permanent resident of Canada using a British Passport has no issues, but the father who's a Canadian citizen gets denied??
 

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So I looked into this, this is so fucking stupid. It basically has to do with the fact they have a new electronic screening system that verifies your a Canadian so they don't have to do immigration screening, but they are screening you. When you go through CBSA, they screening you so it makes no sense to me.
 

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Look at it another way. You get stranded in Jamaica for an extra week in January....what are you complaining about? It's minus something out here and plus 30 in Jamaica. More relaxed, better weather, nicer food. What's the problem? Go to doctor there, get your meds renewed and enjoy!
 

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I travel a lot and I sadly have a lot of medication as well. I carry an extra week of meds at least.

I don't understand why, if you are a CDN citizen, you are not carrying a CDN passport. Makes no sense to me.

I get being dual but why choose to carry a passport for a country you are not travelling out of or into.

It is their mistake. Not the airline.
 
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