Trump ally Roger Stone sentenced to 40 months in prison
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A lot less than 7 years. I guess that Judge thought those four former prosecutors were pretty out of line. Looks like Barr was right, again.
The important fact is that regardless of sentence, another of trump's footmen is still guilty, guilty, guilty... and always will be.
Not true, rarely does a judge give a criminal the recommended sentence for a white collar crime, although I think he should have spent 10yrs in jail for what he did. He's a slime bag. The reality is he will be put in a country club jail and serve 18 months after an appeal. The real crime here is Trump will probably pardon him.
The reality is that he will appeal, and never spend a day in jail before Trump pardons him.
Guilty of process crimes that have nothing to do with Trump?
Always? Not if he successfully appeals or is pardoned!
“Process crimes that have nothing to do with Trump”???? LOL...That’s not what the judge said.
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnb...e-sentenced-to-prison-for-wikileaks-lies.html
Stop drinking your own koolaid.
Sorry dude... a pardon doesn't erase guilt... but I don't expect you to understand that.
You probably also believe that trump is un-impeached.
Couldn't it just be somewhat possible that the prosecutors were trying to score political points? It happens all the time.
Who knows? We wouldn’t even be talking about this if Trump and Barr weren’t throwing sand in the gears of the justice system.
Why would they be doing that? They are career civil servants, not politicians. Doing their job in the approved way to a high professional standard is what gets you ahead in the DoJ. Or it used to before Barr came along.
The judge and the new prosecutor discussed the changes in the DoJ's position. The new head prosecutor refused to talk about internal DoJ policy and told the judge that he "wasn't authorized to discuss internal policy". Then he commended his now-resigned predecessors.
The judge discussed the DoJ's sentencing guidelines and commended the predecessor prosecutors. Then she added that there had been a perception that the DoJ's sentencing guidelines (which the previous prosecutors had been bound to follow) were out of line in general with judicial practices and that this was something the Bench and Bar had been aware of and had discussed over some time.
You appear not to have read reports about what actually occurred at the sentencing hearing.
My impression from those exchanges is that the DOJ's sentencing guidelines are regarded as too high and too inflexible by the Bench, but the DoJ bigwigs haven't changed them and mid level cogs like the Stone prosecutors have to follow them come what may. Everybody knows that the Bench normally give half or less what the DoJ asked for. Everybody simply lived with the inefficiency of the system until Trump flipped out and told Barr to undercut the prosecutors - essentially throwing them professionally under the bus. So they resigned.
The new prosecutor asked for custodial time for Stone, but less than 7-9 years. The judge gave 40 months - almost certainly what she would have given before this all blew up and went CNN.
A question from the dementia ward in the old folks home in Muskoka.
Will he appeal? And if he does is he out pending the appeals process?
Stone walked right into this and deserves the trouble. What he doesn't deserve is the 40 months sentence in a case that was a result of the false accusations, the DOJ law breaking and downright fraud by his prosecutors. The judge should be ashamed of herself for passing a sentence in a case where jury was clearly compromised. Even Napolitano, no friend of Trump and often quoted by the TDS on TERB, is outraged by the way this was handled. I hope Trump commutes Stone's sentence. This is the times we live in, they force me to feel sorry for fucking Stone.
He's got a pending sealed motion for a mistrial based on misconduct by one of the jurors. We'll see how the judge deals with that. Then he'll appeal and get bail pending appeal.
In the interim, Trump will pardon him or lean on Barr to withdraw the case.
Thanks. That's what I figured.
And you know Trump will do it. Lol...It's going to drive the left nuts.
I'm not sure why anyone would think that. U.S. prosecutors are and can be very engaged with politics. They often go after those with political associations. Most of the civil servants you are talking about look for advancement within the government or private enterprises that have dealings with the government.
What you wrote reads nice, but it is not true.
