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Never Too Early To Discuss Houston Astros 2020

glamphotographer

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I bet you will see fans banging trash cans to distract the Astros batters. It will be an interesting season to watch. MLB has lost attendance and viewership but 2020 may see a spike.
 

gcostanza

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The Over/Under for Houston Astros batters Hit By Pitch has been set at 83.5
 

The Oracle

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From what I recall, Trout is a pretty quiet and polite young gentleman who does not typically mouth off, giving his every opinion from A-Zed. So for him to speak out like this does indeed carry some extra weight.
Exactly, remember he shies away from publicity and marketing as a whole. From all accounts he is widely respected amongst his peers and baseball in general. Christ even Marcus Stroman has praised him and he doesn't give an inch to anybody.

As a Yankee fan given that we lost to those cheaters this whole mess makes me sick to my stomach. And all I keep hearing is that they had a great team and would have won anyways. Well f#ck if you had such a great team then why did you have to resort to cheating? If your pitching is so great why the need?

And let me make this clear I blame everyone on that team. There's no way you couldn't have known and if you didn't speak out then you should be held accountable.
 

shack

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The Over/Under for Houston Astros batters Hit By Pitch has been set at 83.5
Not sure if this is real or a (pretty good) joke.
 

gcostanza

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Not sure if this is real or a (pretty good) joke.
Real. (William Hill).

There's someone else on the board that just makes things up, with no basis in fact.
 

shack

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Real. (William Hill).

There's someone else on the board that just makes things up, with no basis in fact.
I'll take the over.
 

gcostanza

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I'll take the over.
In the past 5 seasons, a total of 9 teams have been HbP more than 83 times (during one season).
I think the Over is a reasonable play.
 

shack

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I wonder if the MLBPA has discussed the issue with Manfred to avoid confrontations. And if they do, would they support their members on the Astros to protect them from retaliation or would they support their members on the other teams who feel that they've been cheated and lobby Manfred to take action against the Astros that cheated. That would also avoid confrontations. The PA is kind of stuck in the middle but if they are seriously concerned about the welfare of the players they will take a stand one way or the other.
 

Insidious Von

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If you thought The Battle of Alberta was intense, the Asstros start the season on the road in Anaheim and Oakland.

...if you don't take your meat you can't have any pudding - Shud up Josh Reddick and take your meat!

 

Insidious Von

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Which Asstros player would you like to see doing a commercial spot for Frank D'Angelo's energy drink?

 

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If you thought The Battle of Alberta was intense, the Asstros start the season on the road in Anaheim and Oakland.

...if you don't take your meat you can't have any pudding - Shud up Josh Reddick and take your meat!

Fans are pressuring Houston to voluntarily forfeit the 2017 WS.
 

K Douglas

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TEMPE, Ariz. —Mike Trout thinks the Houston Astros should pay more dearly for their cheating ways.

The Los Angeles Angels' three-time AL MVP ripped the Astros and questioned the discipline handed out by Major League Baseball on Monday after he reported to spring training. Trout joined the chorus of prominent big leaguers angry about Houston's rampant sign stealing on its way to the 2017 World Series title and beyond.

“It’s sad for baseball,” he said. "It’s tough. They cheated. I don’t agree with the punishments, the players not getting anything. It was a player-driven thing. It sucks, too, because guys' careers have been affected. A lot of people lost jobs. It was tough.

“Me going up to the plate knowing what was coming? It would be fun up there. A lot of guys lost respect for some of the guys.”

Trout said a few members of the Astros reached out to him during the off-season to explain their side, but Trout didn't sound impressed.

“You don’t know what helped them or what not,” he said. “But if you know what’s coming, it’s going to definitely help them. I don’t know if you take the trophy away or take the rings away, but they should definitely do something.”

Trout doesn't remember hearing the Astros banging on trash cans at Minute Maid Park during his nine big league seasons, all with the Angels in the AL West.

"I noticed the banging off the bat from centre field," Trout said. “It just feels like they weren't missing pitches. It’s frustrating, because you have guys coming in here battling every day and working on stuff. ... I can’t imagine what the pitchers feel like. It’s a mental game. You go in a stretch where you’re doing good, and you go into Houston and get banged up, it could mentally drain you.”

Trout didn't make a suggestion for what the Astros players' punishment should have been, but the scandal obviously touched a nerve in the Halos' brilliant centre fielder, who has spent his entire career trying to outhit the Astros.

“Obviously the GM got fired and Hinch got fired," Trout said of punishments for Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch. "But the players getting nothing, that’s definitely not right, for sure.”

“I think everybody wants it to be a clean, level playing field,” Trout added. "I didn’t know it wasn’t until this stuff came out, and then you realize when we played at them at (Houston) or whatever, they were hitting a lot of balls. They've got a lot of great players over there for sure, but it was something different.”

also reported to his new team Monday, but the Angels' new $245 million third baseman was more circumspect in his thoughts on the Astros, his hometown team.

“Everyone is quick to hammer them down and just kill them,” Rendon said. “But at the end of the day, we’ve got to look at ourselves in the mirror, and we’re not perfect people. Whether it’s a speeding ticket or whatever it might be, some of us are trying to get an edge some way or another in life. They happened to get caught for doing it. You can forgive them, but doesn’t mean you have to forget.”

Rendon has spent his career in the National League. His Washington Nationals beat Houston in a seven-game World Series last year.

“Even when I watched their games over the previous years, it was suspicious,” Rendon said. “It looked weird. They were (sitting) on balls that were very tough pitches, and just the way that they were playing the game. They're all talented players. I love those guys over there, especially what they've done in my city of Houston to help us out. But it definitely raises a lot of question marks, watching those games.”

https://www.tsn.ca/mike-trout-speaks-about-houston-astros-scandal-1.1444081

What Mike Trout says carries a lot of weight.
Carries a lot of weight with me too. When Trout speaks I listen. The team should be stripped of its World Series victory.
 

Insidious Von

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Quoting Burt Lancaster, Rob Manfred looks like a weak sister.

If Juventus can be stripped of two Scudettos, and the transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo voided, on far flimsier evidence, then the Asstros WS Title should be revoked.
 
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