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2 Canadians arrested in connection with overseas CRA phone scam

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2 Canadians arrested in connection with overseas CRA phone scam

CBC News·Posted: Feb 14, 2020 10:29 AM ET

More than 60,000 Canadians complained of being contacted by scammers and some victims handed over life savings

RCMP have announced the arrest of two Canadians — a husband and wife from the Toronto area — in connection with the infamous CRA telephone scam that originates overseas and has taken aim at tens of thousands of Canadians.

A 37-year-old man and a 36-year-old woman, both of Brampton, Ont., were arrested and charged on Wednesday, said Insp. Jim Ogden, of the RCMP's financial crime unit for the Greater Toronto Area.

They each face one count of fraud over $5,000, one count of laundering the proceeds of crime and one count of property obtained by crime.

"We have disrupted the necessary flow of money from Canada to India, which will have a big impact on the operation and bottom line of scammers," Ogden said Friday, announcing the charges.

Officials also announced they have issued a Canada-wide arrest for a third individual, a 26-year-old man, who is currently believed to be in India.

The scam involves harassing phone calls claiming to be from the Canada Revenue Agency, with callers insisting the recipient owes taxes and must pay immediately or face arrest, imprisonment and salary garnishment.

More than 60,000 Canadians have complained of being contacted. Most who get the call identify it as fraud, and only a slim minority report being victimized, according to authorities. But in some cases those victims hand over life savings and even draw on lines of credit.

Victims are often elderly or new Canadians who don't realize that federal tax authorities would never demand payment solicited by phone, or ask them to pay in difficult-to-trace Bitcoin or retail gift cards.

The RCMP investigation followed a CBC Marketplace investigation that revealed how and where many of the scammers were operating.

The CBC Marketplace investigation found that the scammers had Canadian accomplices ferrying the proceeds of the crime to bosses in India.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rcmp-cra-telephone-scam-fraud-investigation-1.5463838
 

mandrill

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Hanging's too good for those assholes!
 

Smallcock

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In India they would get executed. Here a suspended sentence.
Maybe we need to change the laws where there is a grace period of 30 years before you become a full citizen. Until then, if you do a crime, you receive the same punishment that you would in your homeland. These Indians would be executed, Middle Easterners would be stoned, beheaded, or have their limbs cut off, Africans would be hacked to death by machete, and Russians would be beat down, tortured, mutilated, and locked in confinement. The punishments would be meted out by Canadian police, because we live in Canada. I really think this new system has legs. It's a truer form of multiculturalism than what currently exists.
 

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Maybe we need to change the laws where there is a grace period of 30 years before you become a full citizen. Until then, if you do a crime, you receive the same punishment that you would in your homeland. These Indians would be executed, Middle Easterners would be stoned, beheaded, or have their limbs cut off, Africans would be hacked to death by machete, and Russians would be beat down, tortured, mutilated, and locked in confinement. The punishments would be meted out by Canadian police, because we live in Canada. I really think this new system has legs. It's a truer form of multiculturalism than what currently exists.
+1.....
 

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Released on their own recognizance. Who's to say these scammers don't have fake passports and flee the country? Our authorities are weak.
 

mandrill

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Released on their own recognizance. Who's to say these scammers don't have fake passports and flee the country? Our authorities are weak.

To get released on their own recognizance, they have to satisfy the judge that they can't flee. It's a big deal.

Time you guys - none of whom have any actual justice system experience or cred - faced up to the fact that the system is competent and works well.

I'm guessing a pen term - say, three to five years in jail depending on how high they were in the food chain.
 

mandrill

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Maybe we need to change the laws where there is a grace period of 30 years before you become a full citizen. Until then, if you do a crime, you receive the same punishment that you would in your homeland. These Indians would be executed, Middle Easterners would be stoned, beheaded, or have their limbs cut off, Africans would be hacked to death by machete, and Russians would be beat down, tortured, mutilated, and locked in confinement. The punishments would be meted out by Canadian police, because we live in Canada. I really think this new system has legs. It's a truer form of multiculturalism than what currently exists.
Seriously?

It's a shame you were in the wrong century, Smallcock. You'd be pretty good as a head inquisitor torturing heretics and witches back in the 1600's.
 

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Here’s an idea: 1 year house arrest, however, the police publish their phone number and if they turn off their phone or put it on silent, they get 25 years in prison.
 

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To get released on their own recognizance, they have to satisfy the judge that they can't flee. It's a big deal.

Time you guys - none of whom have any actual justice system experience or cred - faced up to the fact that the system is competent and works well.

I'm guessing a pen term - say, three to five years in jail depending on how high they were in the food chain.
Sometimes people have two Passports, One Canadian and the other from their birth country.

The use the other passport and flee the country. It happens.

And I would bet money on a light prison sentence.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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How many of you have your cellphone on permanent "do not disturb"??

I do. I just can't be bothered answering the phone for duct cleaning every half an hour
 

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I think that the call from a CRA scammer that took the cake for me had to be the time one called me at close to five on a Friday night just before X-Mas.

I was tempted to call them back and ask if they honestly expected me to believe that even the most dedicated government employee would be making a call like that so close to quitting time on a Friday and starting legal proceedings just before most government offices would be shutting down for the holidays.
 

Charlemagne

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Diversity is our Strength

Shaking my head and laughing

Isn't the new Canada going to be great
Why was the crime and murder rate higher when it was less diverse?

"The crime rate in Canada peaked in 1991 and has been in dramatic decline since then, falling by more than 50 per cent until 2014. Since 2014, however, the rate is up just over eight per cent. Most of the movement in the crime rate is the result of changes in non-violent crime."

https://nationalpost.com/news/crime-rate-rose-in-2018-but-country-still-safer-than-a-decade-ago-statcan-says

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-630-x/11-630-x2015001-eng.htm
 
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