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Maher vs Bannon II

jcpro

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I'm usually fairly indifferent towards Maher as he's a lefty bomb thrower without regard for objectivity, but his Bannon conversation was refreshing.
 

Charlemagne

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Bannon was right about a lot of the stuff regarding populism.
Maher kind of showed his establishment bias and looked very right wing.
 

Butler1000

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I'm usually fairly indifferent towards Maher as he's a lefty bomb thrower without regard for objectivity, but his Bannon conversation was refreshing.
He isn't a lefty bomb thrower. Not anymore. $100 million in the bank will do that to you.
 

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Bannon told Maher that he would show up on Real Time anytime. Without mutual contempt the debate is riveting. I'm reminded every time Anthony Scaramucci shows up on Cuomo Prime Time, no acita between those two.

Confirmed, Pete Buttigieg will do the Joe Rogan podcast, Bernie Sanders showed up and covered himself with gold. Should Trump get re-elected, AOC will be unstoppable in 2024.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O-iLk1G_ng&t=160s
 

jcpro

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He isn't a lefty bomb thrower. Not anymore. $100 million in the bank will do that to you.
Sure he is. I've been watching him since Politically Incorrect, when he styled himself a libertarian. He's been hand with hand with the DNC for years, now.
 

Butler1000

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Sure he is. I've been watching him since Politically Incorrect, when he styled himself a libertarian. He's been hand with hand with the DNC for years, now.
The Dems aren't on the left. That's the point.
 

jcpro

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Butler1000

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Not from your pov, sure.
Voting for unlimited military budgets, against M4A. Pro Wall st. Voting for war.

The identity politics mean shit. They are the distraction both parties use to maintain the divisions and keep the ogiarchs in power.

Follow the money. Same donors, some corruption, same policy.
 

Charlemagne

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Voting for unlimited military budgets, against M4A. Pro Wall st. Voting for war.

The identity politics mean shit. They are the distraction both parties use to maintain the divisions and keep the ogiarchs in power.

Follow the money. Same donors, some corruption, same policy.
I agree. These right wingers and some liberals don't know what being a leftist actually means. That K Douglas being another one.
 

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Voting for unlimited military budgets, against M4A. Pro Wall st. Voting for war.

The identity politics mean shit. They are the distraction both parties use to maintain the divisions and keep the ogiarchs in power.

Follow the money. Same donors, some corruption, same policy.
Is that why you've been backing Trump here for years?
 

jcpro

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Voting for unlimited military budgets, against M4A. Pro Wall st. Voting for war.

The identity politics mean shit. They are the distraction both parties use to maintain the divisions and keep the ogiarchs in power.

Follow the money. Same donors, some corruption, same policy.
Are you trying to say that Carville or Maher are pro wall?
 

Butler1000

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Are you trying to say that Carville or Maher are pro wall?
No, that's the identity politics.

But your own Sig proves my point.

They talk one game but legislate another. It was in fact the Clinton's that took them to the right. They followed the money.
 

jcpro

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No, that's the identity politics.

But your own Sig proves my point.

They talk one game but legislate another. It was in fact the Clinton's that took them to the right. They followed the money.
I hate to pour a bucket of ice on you, but even if Bernie gets the nomination, and it's a big if, his platform will never see the light of day in the Congress.
 

Butler1000

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I hate to pour a bucket of ice on you, but even if Bernie gets the nomination, and it's a big if, his platform will never see the light of day in the Congress.
Isn't that what the said about Trump?

The bulky pulpit is strong. Especially when it will be Sanders in charge of the party. Suddenly the primaries will be quite open to challenge incumbents.

The Sanders supporters understand that the fight is coming. It's not about one man. This is a very real and organized movement. With several leaders now. And large scale funding. It's own media.

And it's quite angry.
 

jcpro

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Isn't that what the said about Trump?

The bulky pulpit is strong. Especially when it will be Sanders in charge of the party. Suddenly the primaries will be quite open to challenge incumbents.

The Sanders supporters understand that the fight is coming. It's not about one man. This is a very real and organized movement. With several leaders now. And large scale funding. It's own media.

And it's quite angry.
Trump's platform aligned, more or less, with the conservative values plus it had an overwhelming support of the Republican voters. And even then, he ran into a major opposition in Congress from Ryan to McCain to Flake for example. Bernie is not a Democrat and no member of Congress beyond those with the safest of seats will ever vote to finance the Green New Deal, free post secondary education or even the single payer healthcare. They will never give him the money for those things because the support is too soft among the voters.
 

Butler1000

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Trump's platform aligned, more or less, with the conservative values plus it had an overwhelming support of the Republican voters. And even then, he ran into a major opposition in Congress from Ryan to McCain to Flake for example. Bernie is not a Democrat and no member of Congress beyond those with the safest of seats will ever vote to finance the Green New Deal, free post secondary education or even the single payer healthcare. They will never give him the money for those things because the support is too soft among the voters.
I disagree about support. He win will prove that.

That's the point. If he wins it means people want it.
 
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