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    Tory MP apologizes after asking NDP MP if she's considered sex work

    Tory MP apologizes after asking NDP MP if she's considered sex work

    Rachel GilmoreCTVNews.ca Writer

    @atRachelGilmore

    Published Tuesday, February 4, 2020 3:08PM ESTLast Updated Tuesday, February 4, 2020 3:31PM EST

    OTTAWA -- Conservative MP Arnold Viersen asked NDP MP Laurel Collins if sex work is an "area of work" she has ever considered during a House of Commons debate on Tuesday.

    Viersen later apologized "unreservedly."

    The politicians were debating an opposition day motion from the Conservatives, which asked the House to condemn a recent parole board decision.

    After serving 15 years for the murder of his wife in 2004, 51-year-old Eustachio Gallese was granted day parole in September, 2019. Last week, while out on parole, Gallese entered a Quebec City hotel where 22-year-old sex worker Marylene Levesque gave massages. Police later arrested and charged him with her murder.

    Beyond asking the House to condemn this decision, the motion calls on the government to instruct the public safety committee to conduct hearings into the matter, including a review of the changes made in 2017 to the parole board's nomination processes.

    During the debate, Collins asked Viersen to consider listening to the voices of sex workers.

    "Sex workers are saying that sex work is work," Collins said.

    "I would just respond to that by asking the honourable member across the way if it's [an] area of work that she has considered, and if that is an appropriate-" Viersen replied.

    He was cut off by heckling in the House, including voices yelling "shame."

    Viersen then explained that he was trying to make the point that he does not believe "any woman in this country" chooses to become a sex worker.

    "Prostitution in Canada is inherently dangerous…we do not want to see our women and girls forced into prostitution," Viersen said.

    After the exchange, NDP MP Jack Harris rose on a point of order, calling the comments "insulting and unparliamentary" adding that "the sex workers who are in great danger in this country are, in fact, workers."

    In response, Viersen clarified his remarks.

    "I in no way mean to have any effect on the reputation of the honorable member in question," he said, in reference to Collins.

    "What I do want to say is the very fact that I must tread delicately on this means that – makes my point, I think, about the nature of prostitution."

    He later rose to say he was sorry to Collins.

    "I'd like to apologize unreservedly for my comments towards the member from Victoria," Viersen said.

    With files from CTV News Montreal's Stephane Giroux

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politi...work-1.4797017

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    Well he did apologize and after all, that's all that counts right? Let's move on now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    Well he did apologize and after all, that's all that counts right? Let's move on now.
    You would be singing a different tune if she asked him if he saw sex workers, and apologized later...(I'd be willing to bet that he actually does).
    That's because it's okay when WE do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlemagne View Post
    You would be singing a different tune if she asked him if he saw sex workers, and apologized later...(I'd be willing to bet that he actually does).
    That's because it's okay when WE do it!
    Hate the game not the playa!
    JT says and does stupid things and everyone forgives him after he halfheartedly apologizes while telling the rest of us that WE should do better.
    So that's sets the tone for everyone then.
    Apology=acceptance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    Hate the game not the playa!
    JT says and does stupid things and everyone forgives him after he halfheartedly apologizes while telling the rest of us that WE should do better.
    So that's sets the tone for everyone then.
    Apology=acceptance
    Doug Ford does even more stupid stuff and you love him. What does it have to do this very horrible insult to this NDP Lady MP??


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    Quote Originally Posted by bver_hunter View Post
    Doug Ford does even more stupid stuff and you love him. What does it have to do this very horrible insult to this NDP Lady MP??
    According to Liberals, an apology makes it ok. So you can’t say anything about it after that.
    Live by your own rules and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    According to Liberals, an apology makes it ok. So you can’t say anything about it after that.
    Live by your own rules and move on.
    Where have you lived by that rule when you still refer to Trudeau as "The Groper" although it was not sexual in nature, and Trudeau apologized for it.
    Stop being hypocritical for once!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    Hate the game not the playa!
    JT says and does stupid things and everyone forgives him after he halfheartedly apologizes while telling the rest of us that WE should do better.
    So that's sets the tone for everyone then.
    Apology=acceptance
    Actions speak louder than words.
    Conservatives = scumbags

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlemagne View Post
    Actions speak louder than words.
    Conservatives = scumbags

    ...and his blackface actions speak louder than words too.
    Liberals=communists=hypocrites=wingnuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by bver_hunter View Post
    Where have you lived by that rule when you still refer to Trudeau as "The Groper" although it was not sexual in nature, and Trudeau apologized for it.
    Stop being hypocritical for once!!
    Yes he apologized for groping so that makes it ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bver_hunter View Post
    Doug Ford does even more stupid stuff and you love him. What does it have to do this very horrible insult to this NDP Lady MP??
    Show me a picture of Doug Ford in blackface...many times...and I'll agree with you.

    The MP insulted the lady, he apologized, so that makes things ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    ...and his blackface actions speak louder than words too.
    Liberals=communists=hypocrites=wingnuts
    Old man, take your medicine and go to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlemagne View Post
    Old man, take your medicine and go to bed.
    Nothing to say eh? Thought so.

    Why don't you get a good night's sleep and come up with a more educated response tomorrow that doesn't expose your hypocrisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlemagne View Post
    ...and they make more than you do and hold more prestigious career positions. Who's the fool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    According to Liberals, an apology makes it ok. So you can’t say anything about it after that.
    Live by your own rules and move on.
    According to Trump, you don't apologize and everything is ok... you just keep on offending people, and your followers cheer you on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    ...and they make more than you do and hold more prestigious career positions. Who's the fool?
    After giving themselves a 17% raise, they swear to limit the teachers to 1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    Show me a picture of Doug Ford in blackface...many times...and I'll agree with you.

    The MP insulted the lady, he apologized, so that makes things ok.
    You throw Trudeau into the mix. What he did in the groping was not sexual in nature and around 20 years ago when he was not in office. At least Trudeau was honest enough to own up to that Blackface. Did Dumb DOFO admit that he was a Street Cannabis vendor?? He never will and we know he used to be one!!

    Unlike this MP who did it parliament and to another MP. Big difference!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    Yes he apologized for groping so that makes it ok.
    At least he apologized and should do so. Unlike Scheer who has not apologized for all he said about the gay community in the past, and also being caught out of stealing the campaign funds for his children's private education!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    ...and they make more than you do and hold more prestigious career positions. Who's the fool?
    So you are telling us that you are a fool for not being part of those "prestigious career positions"??? If you say so!!


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    I think it was a stupid question to ask of Collins. Of course she's never been a sex worker! In fact, she's never had anything like a real job - having been a women's shelter worker, ran an anti-oil lobby group, been a refugee worker with the UN in Africa, and served as a university lecturer on Social Inequality, Social Justice Studies, Political Sociology, and the Sociology of Genders. And now an MP. It's pretty clear she's not interested in any real work. Vierson should have known better than to ask a question we already knew the answer to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wigglee View Post
    According to Trump, you don't apologize and everything is ok... you just keep on offending people, and your followers cheer you on!
    But when an apology is given, it's still not good enough as per the topic of this thread?

    Which do you prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wigglee View Post
    After giving themselves a 17% raise, they swear to limit the teachers to 1%
    Maybe the teachers should be asking why their unions heads make $200+ per year before looking outside their own ecosystem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bver_hunter View Post
    So you are telling us that you are a fool for not being part of those "prestigious career positions"??? If you say so!!
    Not really...but you usually don't read posts and just react emotionally so I'll try and spell it out for you.

    If you are going to mock someone's education in an effort to discredit them in some way, but they in fact are more successful than you despite whatever education they have, then you really have no point do you?

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