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    Pay equity is apparently stressing married men out

    Pay equity is apparently stressing married men out

    By Tracey Anne Duncan
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    Jan 28, 2020

    Although itís at a standstill for the moment, the gender pay gap seems to be narrowing. Donít get too excited yet. The Institute for Womenís Policy Research estimates that the American wage gap wonít close until 2059 for white women, 2130 for Black women, and not until 2224 for Hispanic women. Even though we arenít expected to see it for some time, pay equity is already stressing men out.

    Men who are married to women who make more than they do are experiencing negative mental health consequences as a result of the disparity, suggests research released on Monday. The study tracked 6,000 heterosexual American couples over the course of 15 years. Itís worth noting that the study only included cis-het folks; thereís precious little research being done on queer relationships.

    Researchers found that menís stress levels are high when they are the sole earner in the family and that their stress decreases until their wife begins to earn 40% of the household income. Once a wifeís wages hit that 40% tipping point, menís stress levels rise in response.

    Stay with me: This is only true for men who married women whose incomes rose during the marriage, said Joanna Syrda, an economist with the University of Bath, School of Management, who conducted the research. In other words, men who married women who earned more than they did before the marriage did not experience this type of stress when their wifeís wages increased during the marriage.

    So then, men were okay if they knew in advance that they were marrying a woman who would make more money than they did, but it really seemed to mess them up when an unexpected income gap was created.

    It seems counter intuitive. Wouldnít it be kind of liberating to discover that your female partner could take care of the financial needs of your family? Apparently not. The study suggests that the stress of the gender role reversal was too high for men to enjoy the financial boon. ďThe consequences of traditional gender role reversals in marriages associated with wives' higher earnings span multiple dimensions, including physical and mental health, life satisfaction, marital fidelity, and divorce,Ē Syrda said in a report on the study.

    So, then, when women earn more than men, the men experience what Syrda describes as ďpersistent distress,Ē but that distress doesnít just impact the male individual. Syrda suggests that menís unhappiness about money can even lead to cheating and divorce. And while men may be so stressed out that they are sick and depressed, the women they are partnered with may not even know about it.

    According to the data, there was a difference between how men felt and how women thought men felt. Women reported that their partners were happiest when they earned 50% of household income, while men reported that they were actually happiest when women earned 40%. ďThis too may be down to gender norms,Ē Syrda said. ďMen are inclined to hide symptoms of stress and depression and it follows that wives' responses [about their spouses] will be less accurate.Ē

    This is what feminists mean when we say that the patriarchy hurts everyone. No only are men unable to chill when they partner with a high earning woman, but they are so stuck in the role of stoic that they arenít able to express themselves in ways that their partners understand.

    The pressure of traditional heteropatriarchial gender norms is making men sick and it is hurting their relationships. Whatís more, those norms are out of step with the economic leveling of the financial playing field and the general queering of gender roles. It makes sense that people who are stuck in an old social script are having difficulty adapting.

    https://www.mic.com/p/pay-equity-is-...n-out-19369258

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    The gender pay gap is a myth.
    Women actually earn slightly more than men.
    Look at where that article comes from.

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    If a pay gap actually existed, employers would be getting fined left and right, because it’s illegal.

    The article seems to be referring to an earnings gap. What men and women bring home in their yearly salary.

    Frankly I wouldn’t have any problems if my wife earned more than me, unless she constantly abused me (emotionally and psychologically) for earning less than her. The insidious cruelty of some women should not be understated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginomore View Post
    The gender pay gap is a myth.
    Women actually earn slightly more than men.
    Look at where that article comes from.
    Small correction, the gender pay gap is not a myth, it exists, but there's perfectly good reasons for it.

    Warren Farrell wrote the book explaining why, its called "Why men make more"

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve bettman View Post
    Small correction, the gender pay gap is not a myth, it exists, but there's perfectly good reasons for it.

    Warren Farrell wrote the book explaining why, its called "Why men make more"
    Usually it comes down to how you define the "pay gap". Some define it as difference in average gross salary which, to any reasonable person, obviously leaves out a lot of relevant information. This is the measure used to create the most headline-worthy gap.
    Others more diligently break it down my hourly earnings. This is more relevant. However, it often doesn't take into account overtime, which men are much more likely to do, so that inflates their average hourly rate. This results in a slightly less misleading, but also still irrelevant gap.
    The only way to determine the true gap is to account for total hours, overtime hours, full time versus part time, profession, skill level, efficiency, tenure, education, time off, etc. This would be a monumental undertaking, and counter to the desired narrative anyway.

    An overall gap will certainly exist, but I have no idea if it favors women or men, and to what degree. The gap will also vary wildly from industry to industry, if you want to break it down that far.

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    The minimum wage in Ontario is $14.00. And it's $14.00 for men and it's $14.00 for women. Where is the gap?

    If I become a male escort, can I demand to be paid $800.00 an hr. as some of the female escorts do?
    The complex harmony of how the human body seems to function in order to just exist is in stark contrast to what most people actually do with it! I mean, life is nothing but a wonder, living it is often ludicrous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuanGoodman View Post

    If I become a male escort, can I demand to be paid $800.00 an hr. as some of the female escorts do?
    sure you can. but your male clients may demand 250/hr



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    sure you can. but your male clients may demand 250/hr

    You are right, but that just proves my point. This whole pay gap argument is not baste in reality but in fantasy land.
    The complex harmony of how the human body seems to function in order to just exist is in stark contrast to what most people actually do with it! I mean, life is nothing but a wonder, living it is often ludicrous!

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