This is the important thingAs long as this guy is never in a law enforcement position again, I am ok with this. Let him be an electrician.
This is the important thingAs long as this guy is never in a law enforcement position again, I am ok with this. Let him be an electrician.
Just trying to reach the lowest common denominator between the two of us so that you can comprehend.At least put some effort into your comebacks. But I do understand your fear, so I'll go easy on you.
And that's what he was convicted for....At which point Forcillo again draws his weapon and fired a second set of shots.
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And yours leads me to suspect you would be likely to shoot yourself in the foot while dropping you gun in a panic.Your responses and writing style tells me everything I need to know about you. You just can't accept the fact that I'm right. Pity.
You have a very steep climb ahead of you if that's what you are trying to accomplish. And yes, you are failing. But hey, self-awareness is an important first step so keep working at it.Just trying to reach the lowest common denominator between the two of us so that you can comprehend.
Maybe I'm failing.
And yours leads me to suspect that people like hiring you to haunt houses.And yours leads me to suspect you would be likely to shoot yourself in the foot while dropping you gun in a panic.
I usually see things from a policing point of view but it's impossible for me not to a agree with all of your points here.Forcillo was a hot head and a menace. He should have never been a cop.
In 3.5 years Forcillo drew his gun 12 times. If a cop pulls his gun 3 times in a year it automatically triggers an investigation. The majority of cops in Toronto never draw their weapons in their entire career as a cop. In the 12 times Forcillo pulled his gun, only once was the suspect armed.
Once in 12 times.
And the guy was armed with a knife. Which he dropped when he was told to.
Clearly Forcillo was either an overly aggressive cop or he was scared and relied on his gun.
I'm going to go with overly aggressive. He was not cut out to be a cop.
The night he murdered Sammy Yatim, (and I deliberately use the word murder), Forcillo had not even been on site 30 seconds. He did not know what had transpired in the street car. All he knew was that the kid had a knife and the kid didn't immediately put the knife down when Forcillo screamed at him to "drop the fucking knife" .
At the time, Yatim was retreating back into the street car and he was contained inside the street car and was not a threat to anyone . (Why didn't the cops merely shut the door on the street car and let the kid cool down?)
So Forcillo shot the kid 3 times, paused, then shot the kid 6 more times for good measure when the kid was down. I call that an execution.
Forcillo was guilty (in my opinion) of second degree murder and should have received a life sentence. Good luck to him in his notion of becoming an electrician. I don't think he's smart enough to pass, but we'll see.
Is being an electrician even safe for him. I have my doubts about him on a job site.As long as this guy is never in a law enforcement position again, I am ok with this. Let him be an electrician.
Yea, it is a steep angle for me to get down to our lowest common denominator.You have a very steep climb ahead of you if that's what you are trying to accomplish. And yes, you are failing. But hey, self-awareness is an important first step so keep working at it.
Mob mentality.To address some of the comments,
1) Every Officer had their weapon in hand pointed at the adult male
2) Forcillo fired his weapon not a single officer yelled hold your fire, hold your fire.
3) After Forcillo fired the first shots which was proven to have been the right thing to do according to training and the law. Not a single officer except Forcillo lowers their weapon. WHY?
4) Fucking read the case, he was found guilty of attempted murder on the second set of 6 shots. The Adult male was fatally shot on the first set of three.
I thought he was a hot head and an idiot when I saw the first video. Then I started to look at the evidence of the three cops by the door. You have three men in Uniform acting in similar behavior, all three were clearly afraid.
But no point arguing, the reality is that in life Karma takes care of it all in the end. If I am wrong Karma will show me, if you guys are wrong Karma will show you.
The conversation I had with my Cop friend was 7 years ago. I apologize for using the wrong terminology. I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out the gist of what he was saying about Forcillo.Just to be clear, he didn't "unload" his "clip". He fired 9 out of 15 shots, and they were in his magazine. A clip is something completely different.
Absolutely, just wanted to make sure the facts are out there. What Forcillo did, and the facts of the situation were bad enough, but then there are people who feel a need to embellish that the only reason he stopped shooting was because he ran out of ammo. The magazine / clip thing is just a personal pet peeve of mine. Its right up there with people who want to "aks" me a question, or talk about "nucular" power.The conversation I had with my Cop friend was 7 years ago. I apologize for using the wrong terminology. I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out the gist of what he was saying about Forcillo.
They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery...thank you...but maybe take a stab at coming up with your own words and ideas once in a while so everyone doesn't think you are a bot or 6th grader.Yea, it is a steep angle for me to get down to our lowest common denominator.
I'm glad you're self-aware.
Yeah... people say a lot of things.They say that imitation is the highest form of flattery...thank you...but maybe take a stab at coming up with your own words and ideas once in a while so everyone doesn't think you are a bot or 6th grader.
^^^^^ Well said. Boober, read what JTK just wrote.Forcillo was a hot head and a menace. He should have never been a cop.
In 3.5 years Forcillo drew his gun 12 times. If a cop pulls his gun 3 times in a year it automatically triggers an investigation. The majority of cops in Toronto never draw their weapons in their entire career as a cop. In the 12 times Forcillo pulled his gun, only once was the suspect armed.
Once in 12 times.
And the guy was armed with a knife. Which he dropped when he was told to.
Clearly Forcillo was either an overly aggressive cop or he was scared and relied on his gun.
I'm going to go with overly aggressive. He was not cut out to be a cop.
The night he murdered Sammy Yatim, (and I deliberately use the word murder), Forcillo had not even been on site 30 seconds. He did not know what had transpired in the street car. All he knew was that the kid had a knife and the kid didn't immediately put the knife down when Forcillo screamed at him to "drop the fucking knife" .
At the time, Yatim was retreating back into the street car and he was contained inside the street car and was not a threat to anyone . (Why didn't the cops merely shut the door on the street car and let the kid cool down?)
So Forcillo shot the kid 3 times, paused, then shot the kid 6 more times for good measure when the kid was down. I call that an execution.
Forcillo was guilty (in my opinion) of second degree murder and should have received a life sentence. Good luck to him in his notion of becoming an electrician. I don't think he's smart enough to pass, but we'll see.
9 pulls of the trigger. The first 3 brought the guy to the ground. 6 more pulls of the trigger.there are people who feel a need to embellish that the only reason he stopped shooting was because he ran out of ammo.
It's fun. And I can take my mask off at the end of the day.And yours leads me to suspect that people like hiring you to haunt houses.
I don't know. If he kept unloading until he was dry firing, I would think it had more to do with panic which could be understandable rather than being a toxic person with a history of gun use. Panic could be fixed by taking him out of the job. Being an aggressive asshole can't.Absolutely, just wanted to make sure the facts are out there. What Forcillo did, and the facts of the situation were bad enough, but then there are people who feel a need to embellish that the only reason he stopped shooting was because he ran out of ammo. ...
My favourite is: why didn't he just lock him in the streetcar?I dont understand why Forcillo didn't hug the guy into submission. Or my favorite why didn't he shoot him in the hand ? Lol