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Stop saying Biden is the 'most electable'. Trump will run rings round him

Butler1000

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Moderation, and the most likely to beat Trump!!
Moderation? Like voting for the Iraq War? Taking Credit Card Companies sides in legislation?

Lol. Great slogan.

"I will be the most moderate President in history!".
 

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Compared to the warmonger Trump?
Seems to me Biden voted for Iraq, approved of Libya, Syria, and also consistantly voted to increase military budgets.

And his bitch about the latest thing isn't that it was done, just that he didn't inform Congress when he did it. So that means he is ok with the assassination.
 

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Sanity, after fours years of insanity from a comedian in the Whitehouse!! So are you saying that polls do not matter??
Btw bver, latest polls out show Biden trailing Sanders in Iowa and NH. Feel free to look it up.

The aggregate polls from RCP show from the beginning. Sanders is rising while Biden is starting to fall.
 

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Btw bver, latest polls out show Biden trailing Sanders in Iowa and NH. Feel free to look it up.

The aggregate polls from RCP show from the beginning. Sanders is rising while Biden is starting to fall.
Biden, Sanders or Trump? Not good to be American with these kind of choices. As bad as Trudeau or Scheer.

Who does Putin pick?
 

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Seems to me Biden voted for Iraq, approved of Libya, Syria, and also consistantly voted to increase military budgets.

And his bitch about the latest thing isn't that it was done, just that he didn't inform Congress when he did it. So that means he is ok with the assassination.
He was VP when hundreds if not thousands of terrorists were attacked by drones.
 

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Btw bver, latest polls out show Biden trailing Sanders in Iowa and NH. Feel free to look it up.

The aggregate polls from RCP show from the beginning. Sanders is rising while Biden is starting to fall.
butler, just post your links, as I have looked up the CBS Polls for Iowa and all the 3 candidates are tied neck and neck at 23 Points. i.e. Biden, Sanders and Buttigieg. Remember that Biden was trailing in 4th place at the beginning.

The latest morning Consult Polls still has Biden at 31 Points and Sanders at 23 Points. In NH Sanders is just 2 Points above Biden. But overall the Polls have Biden still the best candidate to handily beat Trump. It would be a much closer race with Sanders and Warren. The candidate that is gradually gaining momentum is Bloomberg who is now at 7 percentage points. Judge Judy is backing him, and with his ads that are beginning to resonate, who knows where this race will eventually end up. Just hope that they can boot out warmonger Trump from the Whitehouse!!
 

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Trump ran on not being Hillary Clinton....
He did? That's funny, I thought MAGA stood for Make America Great Again.

Trump ran as an outsider who opposed the establishment in both parties and would put America's interests ahead of global interests.

That included energy policies that would support blue collar workers and would make the U.S. energy independent, pressuring other countries to pay their fair share for NATO, draining the swamp in Washington, stopping abuses at the Mexican border, etc.

You can agree or disagree with Trump's agenda but you can't deny he stood for a lot more than simply not being Hillary Clinton.
 

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butler, just post your links, as I have looked up the CBS Polls for Iowa and all the 3 candidates are tied neck and neck at 23 Points. i.e. Biden, Sanders and Buttigieg. Remember that Biden was trailing in 4th place at the beginning.

The latest morning Consult Polls still has Biden at 31 Points and Sanders at 23 Points. In NH Sanders is just 2 Points above Biden. But overall the Polls have Biden still the best candidate to handily beat Trump. It would be a much closer race with Sanders and Warren. The candidate that is gradually gaining momentum is Bloomberg who is now at 7 percentage points. Judge Judy is backing him, and with his ads that are beginning to resonate, who knows where this race will eventually end up. Just hope that they can boot out warmonger Trump from the Whitehouse!!
Bloomberg can buy 10% tops. And it will come at the expense of Biden and Buttigieg. I will add it's a 15% minimum needed to get delegates.

Biden is slipping. That's my point. Biden is now doing worse than Clinton was at this stage and Sanders is doing better than he was in 2016.

So really if Biden can't do as well as Clinton that's kinda kills the electability argument doesn't it?

I mean Obama touted Clinton as the most qualified to be President. And she was rejected. Biden coming in with the same platform just means a lesser candidate. Especially with his baggage.
 

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Bloomberg can buy 10% tops. And it will come at the expense of Biden and Buttigieg. I will add it's a 15% minimum needed to get delegates.

Biden is slipping. That's my point. Biden is now doing worse than Clinton was at this stage and Sanders is doing better than he was in 2016.

So really if Biden can't do as well as Clinton that's kinda kills the electability argument doesn't it?

I mean Obama touted Clinton as the most qualified to be President. And she was rejected. Biden coming in with the same platform just means a lesser candidate. Especially with his baggage.
Biden is within 5% of Sanders and Warren combined.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e..._democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html
 

Butler1000

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The polls are weighted towards likely voters and older voters.

It is my and the campaign's belief that the younger voters turnout will be far larger. As will the new voter block.

The 2018 midterms are the reason, as well when you get into the polling guts there are stats that support this theory.

Of course we won't know until Super Tuesday imo.
 

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butler, just post your links, as I have looked up the CBS Polls for Iowa and all the 3 candidates are tied neck and neck at 23 Points. i.e. Biden, Sanders and Buttigieg. Remember that Biden was trailing in 4th place at the beginning.

The latest morning Consult Polls still has Biden at 31 Points and Sanders at 23 Points. In NH Sanders is just 2 Points above Biden. But overall the Polls have Biden still the best candidate to handily beat Trump. It would be a much closer race with Sanders and Warren. The candidate that is gradually gaining momentum is Bloomberg who is now at 7 percentage points. Judge Judy is backing him, and with his ads that are beginning to resonate, who knows where this race will eventually end up. Just hope that they can boot out warmonger Trump from the Whitehouse!!
Tuesday Morning Consult Poll has......

Biden 29%
Sanders 25%

Rest below 15%
 

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Btw the bver you still haven't said why he would be a good President.

Is it when he said he wants to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid?

When he shepparded the Iraq War resolution through the Senate as Chair of the Foreign relations committee.

Was it when in inflicted the Bankruptcy Bill on the little people? Or perhaps the Crime Bill?

What policies bver, made you think he would be good for the nation?
 

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Which only proves the polls are so all over the place that they are not a good measure of electability.
Yes, but I’ve not seen a poll where Biden isn’t leading...
 

Butler1000

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Yes, but I’ve not seen a poll where Biden isn’t leading...
Again. I think they are wrong. They favor likely voters and older voters.
The younger ones are quite engaged now. They came on droves in 2018. As well progressives are as well.
 

Butler1000

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Anybody would be a less bad president than the warmonger you keep backing.
Except Biden is a warmonger as well. He has a voting record to prove it.

Why trade one war monger for another. And more importantly why put someone in who's policies, votes and goals reflect the past that created the conditions that put Trump in office?

Why go back when there is a leader who will move forward?

I have yet to see a single think that would make Biden a good President.
 

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Btw the bver you still haven't said why he would be a good President.

Is it when he said he wants to cut Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid?

When he shepparded the Iraq War resolution through the Senate as Chair of the Foreign relations committee.

Was it when in inflicted the Bankruptcy Bill on the little people? Or perhaps the Crime Bill?

What policies bver, made you think he would be good for the nation?
So I show you the actual polls where Biden is in the lead in all of them, even Warren is ahead of Sanders in one of the polls, and now you try to change the topic.

Anyway, here is the most important reason. When the USA was in a deep recession, and most pundits predicted that a Depression was round the corner with various bankruptcies etc, which POTUS and VP steered that sinking ship and handed a growing economy to the present incumbent who has since taken all the credit?? Was the ACA that was railroaded and finally passed, not a great start for the Americans?? Where did he say that he was going to "cut" Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid. He only stated that he would improve on it, not"cut" like you randomly make such allegations!! Why else do you think that the majority of the Democrats are still supporting Biden?? Show me a National poll that has Biden not in the lead??
 

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Which only proves the polls are so all over the place that they are not a good measure of electability.
You said the same thing with the mid terms, and the Canadian elections as well. You were proved wrong there as well!!
 
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