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The Supreme Court just jumped into the political deep end with Trump taxes lawsuit

jcpro

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And it also destroyed the "obstruction of Congress" impeachment article, but the CNN was not about to mention that.
 

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Will they order that you can't ask for taxes from presidents, even after they've been impeached?
Even after they've been caught stealing from their own charities?
Providing your taxes in order to be President is not a law, it's not mandatory, it's voluntary.
 

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Providing your taxes in order to be President is not a law, it's not mandatory, it's voluntary.
Its mandatory when its been subpoenaed by congress because there is evidence of tax fraud, paying off porn stars, stealing from his own charities, foreign influence, dodgy debts and constant lying about it to the point where his first personal lawyer is in jail, his second is under investigation and his accountant is in hiding.

Dirty Don is in trouble.
 

jcpro

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Its mandatory when its been subpoenaed by congress because there is evidence of tax fraud, paying off porn stars, stealing from his own charities, foreign influence, dodgy debts and constant lying about it to the point where his first personal lawyer is in jail, his second is under investigation and his accountant is in hiding.

Dirty Don is in trouble.
Subpoena does not make it mandatory, hence the Court's role. Don't you know anything?
 

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Subpoena does not make it mandatory, hence the Court's role. Don't you know anything?
The SC will rule on this.

And you'd be very happy knowing that nobody could ever ask for financial documents from any democratic president after this, forever?
You'd be happy for the SC to rule that no democrat president can ever be investigated for criminal acts while in office?
 

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Its mandatory when its been subpoenaed by congress because there is evidence of tax fraud, paying off porn stars, stealing from his own charities, foreign influence, dodgy debts and constant lying about it to the point where his first personal lawyer is in jail, his second is under investigation and his accountant is in hiding.

Dirty Don is in trouble.
Jcpro beat me to it
 

jcpro

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The SC will rule on this.

And you'd be very happy knowing that nobody could ever ask for financial documents from any democratic president after this, forever?
You'd be happy for the SC to rule that no democrat president can ever be investigated for criminal acts while in office?
We will see what the Court says. Im neither happy nor unhappy, I'm simply curious how the Court will deal with the question of the separation of powers and the application of the 4th Amendment to the sitting President. Which changes nothing regarding the "mandatory" subpoena claim you're making.
 

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The SC will rule on this.

And you'd be very happy knowing that nobody could ever ask for financial documents from any democratic president after this, forever?
You'd be happy for the SC to rule that no democrat president can ever be investigated for criminal acts while in office?
They can ask, it doesn't mean they will get it.
 

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The SC will rule on this.

And you'd be very happy knowing that nobody could ever ask for financial documents from any democratic president after this, forever?
You'd be happy for the SC to rule that no democrat president can ever be investigated for criminal acts while in office?
Why worry about taxes? it is already clear that the President (rep or dem) can go to war without the consent of Congress.

Clearly the Presidency is above congress now.
 

Frankfooter

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We will see what the Court says. Im neither happy nor unhappy, I'm simply curious how the Court will deal with the question of the separation of powers and the application of the 4th Amendment to the sitting President. Which changes nothing regarding the "mandatory" subpoena claim you're making.
Sure it does.
If the SC rules the president doesn't have to answer to congress no dem or repub president in the future will ever have to obey them.
 

jcpro

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Sure it does.
If the SC rules the president doesn't have to answer to congress no dem or repub president in the future will ever have to obey them.
You probably know that any ruling will be very narrow and specific and will not set any major precedent. Or maybe be you don't know...
 

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You probably know that any ruling will be very narrow and specific and will not set any major precedent. Or maybe be you don't know...

Really?

Please expand on the limited scope and future narrow application of the Supreme Court case.
 

jcpro

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:huh:

You are the one who claimed :




I asked you why this SC decision would be narrow and not set precedent.
You know very well that it will be narrow in scope because it will have to consider the subpoena regarding specific issues. This is not the first time the Court will address it and it won't be the last time deciding on the level of access and the reasons for it. The Court will never allow a broad access without valid and specific cause because the Supreme Court is tipped toward the originalists who will not violate the 4th Amendment or overstep the separation of powers. It's the main reason why the Democrats never challenged the rejection and just went ahead and charged Trump with obstruction. Ironically, the failure to challenge is the very reason that the Senate will not even consider the obstruction article.
 

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You know very well that it will be narrow in scope because it will have to consider the subpoena regarding specific issues. This is not the first time the Court will address it and it won't be the last time deciding on the level of access and the reasons for it. The Court will never allow a broad access without valid and specific cause because the Supreme Court is tipped toward the originalists who will not violate the 4th Amendment or overstep the separation of powers. It's the main reason why the Democrats never challenged the rejection and just went ahead and charged Trump with obstruction. Ironically, the failure to challenge is the very reason that the Senate will not even consider the obstruction article.
The State of NY is asking for records to investigate criminal charges of fraud on Trump.
Its narrow and based on info and charges that have already put Trump's personal lawyer behind bars.
 
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