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Jersey City gunmen targeted Jewish grocery for lethal attack: mayor

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Jersey City gunmen targeted Jewish grocery for lethal attack: mayor

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(Reuters) - Police in the New York metropolitan area were put on high alert to protect Jewish neighborhoods after an hours-long gunbattle with two men around a Jersey City kosher market that killed six people, authorities said.

The police shoot-out with two men armed with high-powered rifles erupted after midday on Tuesday in Jersey City, New Jersey's second-largest municipality directly across the Hudson River from Manhattan. The six dead included three civilians, one police officer and both gunmen, authorities said.

Jersey City police said initially that the gunmen's motive was not known. But Mayor Steven Fulop said on Tuesday night that two gunmen had deliberately targeted the Jewish JC Kosher Supermarket where the four-hour gunbattle played out.

"Based on our initial investigation (which is ongoing) we now believe the active shooters targeted the location they attacked," Fulop said in a tweet.

"Due to an excess of caution the community may see additional police resources in the days/weeks ahead," Fulop wrote. "We have no indication there are any further threat(s)."

New York Mayor Bill de Blasio tweeted that while there was no known specific threat to the city, he had placed city police on high alert, in particular to protect Jewish residents.

"Tonight NYPD assets are being deployed to protect key locations in the Jewish community. Tomorrow we will announce additional measures," he said.

"This tragically confirms that a growing pattern of violent anti-Semitism has now turned into a crisis for our nation. And now this threat has reached the doorstep of New York City."

Police had said earlier on Tuesday they believed the kosher grocery was randomly singled out by the gunmen.

Jersey City Police Chief Michael Kelly told reporters there was no immediate evidence the bloodshed was a hate crime or terrorism-related, "but that's certainly on the table".

Some local media reported the initial confrontation between the suspects and police near the Jersey City cemetery, about a mile away from the supermarket, was linked to a previous homicide investigation.

The dead police officer was shot at the cemetery shortly before the shootout around the grocery began.

A police bomb squad was also investigating a possible explosive found in the stolen U-Haul vehicle the gunmen drove.

The identities of the two gunmen were not immediately released.

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Twitter: "Just received a briefing on the horrific shootout that took place in Jersey City, NJ. Our thoughts & prayers are w/ the victims & their families during this very difficult & tragic time."

Last year, a 47-year-old Pennsylvania man, Robert Bowers, was arrested and accused of bursting into a Pittsburgh synagogue with a semi-automatic rifle and shooting 11 people to death. The October 2018 massacre at the Tree of Life synagogue was the deadliest attack ever on Jewish Americans in the United States.

Bowers now faces the death penalty on multiple murder charges.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-jersey-shooting/jersey-city-gunmen-targeted-jewish-grocery-for-lethal-attack-mayor-idUSKBN1YF0WE
 

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Last year, a 47-year-old Pennsylvania man, Robert Bowers, was arrested and accused of bursting into a Pittsburgh synagogue with a semi-automatic rifle and shooting 11 people to death. The October 2018 massacre at the Tree of Life synagogue was the deadliest attack ever on Jewish Americans in the United States.

Bowers now faces the death penalty on multiple murder charges.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-jersey-shooting/jersey-city-gunmen-targeted-jewish-grocery-for-lethal-attack-mayor-idUSKBN1YF0WE
Bower richly deserves the death penalty. A just punishment. May he fry in hell. WTF gives with any level of anti-Semitism?
 

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Bower richly deserves the death penalty. A just punishment. May he fry in hell. WTF gives with any level of anti-Semitism?
Blame the alt-right. Never in my life can I remember seeing such blatant and open anti-Semitism as regularly as I have since the alt-right became a thing. I live in a nice area in downtown Toronto in an expensive building and some dipshit spray painted a swastika on someone’s door a few months back. It’s everywhere on the internet too. All the subtle “George Soros as an allegory for the entire Jewish race as a whole” shit to the not-so-subtle “Jews are trying to eradicate the white man” shit. It’s disgusting that bigots of all stripes seem to think it’s acceptable to be openly and publicly bigoted these days. I have Jewish family and it’s gotten to the point where I’m genuinely apprehensive about mentioning that, be it on the internet or in real life, because there’s a very legitimate chance I’m going to catch shit for it. It was never like that before, not until a few years ago.
 

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Blame the alt-right. Never in my life can I remember seeing such blatant and open anti-Semitism as regularly as I have since the alt-right became a thing. .


Seems vitriol and openly expressing hatred is becoming more acceptable. Witness the spewing of hatred towards that 15 year old kid trying to do something she thinks is important in this world.
 

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The article doesn't say if the assailant Francine Graham and David Anderson have been shot by police or alive.

If dead the cops were being merciful to them, that part of NJ is predominately Jewish-Italian. They've traditionally had each other's backs, if alive the assailants are prime targets. Their lives aren't worth shit.

 

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Seems vitriol and openly expressing hatred is becoming more acceptable. Witness the spewing of hatred towards that 15 year old kid trying to do something she thinks is important in this world.
True. I’ve mentioned before that I’m not really a fan of Greta, and that I think she’s not a particularly good representative for the climate change movement, but it’s not personal and not because I hate her. I see tons of people calling her ugly, calling her stupid, entitled, ignorant, out of touch, etc. I admire her willingness to champion a cause that she cares about, I just don’t think she’s the best choice of de-facto “leader” of the movement. I think her attitude turns a lot of people off, as evidenced by all the vitriol being thrown at her.

The fact is, though, that people were always bigoted, but before we used to at least have the sense to realize that those people were idiots and assholes and we didn’t give them a platform nor pay attention to what they say. Now, we basically reward it. Alex Jones has built an empire spewing all sorts of nonsense and spreading all kinds of whacko conspiracy theories. Now, when someone says he’s an idiot and an asshole, instead of agreeing and leaving it at that, you get accused of being a lefty snowflake, and people flock to defend him just to spite you because they hate liberals more than they like living in a world where bigotry is looked down upon. We give these people a platform, we defend them in the name of “free speech” (which is not how that fucking works at all), we have populism and anti-immigrant rhetoric spreading all over the world, and now these shitheads are emboldened and think it’s ok to hold marches where they carry torches and chant “Jews will not replace us!”. They need to be shoved back into that dark corner of the closet where they belong.
 

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Blame the alt-right.


The male perp was a member of the Black Hebrew Israelites.

A black supremacist group, they are about as far removed from alt-right as you can get.
 

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The male perp was a member of the Black Hebrew Israelites.

A black supremacist group, they are about as far removed from alt-right as you can get.
If they are supremacists of any kind, they are alt-right.
 

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The male perp was a member of the Black Hebrew Israelites.

A black supremacist group, they are about as far removed from alt-right as you can get.
I was referring to the normalization of anti-semitism, which is absolutely the alt-right’s handiwork.
 

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Blame the alt-right. ....
Don't worry, the far-left has many of the same views, both about Jews and conspiracies. Just look how easily danmand jumps between Chomsky and Pat Buchanan. The only difference is the far left see Israel as the root of the evil, not just Jewishness in general. The only difference I see is the current far-left in the west doesn't own as many weapons so their attacks are limited to verbal ones.

p.s. Take a look at the UK's politics to see how pervasive it is across all political affiliations.
 

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Don't worry, the far-left has many of the same views, both about Jews and conspiracies. Just look how easily danmand jumps between Chomsky and Pat Buchanan. The only difference is the far left see Israel as the root of the evil, not just Jewishness in general. The only difference I see is the current far-left in the west doesn't own as many weapons so their attacks are limited to verbal ones.

p.s. Take a look at the UK's politics to see how pervasive it is across all political affiliations.
True, but that is a very important distinction. For example, I have no problem at all with Chinese people, but I think the Chinese government is horrifically evil. I don’t think that’s bigoted. I think it’s perfectly ok to be critical of a country’s government. I don’t think it’s ok to be prejudiced against an entire group of people.

That said, there is certainly a lot of ignorance on the left regarding Israel. Many of these people seem to not be very aware of the history. There were wars, they’re been suicide bombers murdering busses full of children, killing innocent people in shopping malls, etc. It’s perfectly reasonable for Israelis to be wary of the Palestinians. I don’t think the Israeli government always handles things particularly well, but there is a very real national security concern.

Again, though, there’s a very big difference between being critical of Israel and hating all Jewish people everywhere in general.
 

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Don't worry, the far-left has many of the same views, both about Jews and conspiracies. Just look how easily danmand jumps between Chomsky and Pat Buchanan. The only difference is the far left see Israel as the root of the evil, not just Jewishness in general. The only difference I see is the current far-left in the west doesn't own as many weapons so their attacks are limited to verbal ones.

p.s. Take a look at the UK's politics to see how pervasive it is across all political affiliations.
That right, EVERYONE hates the Jews and EVERYONE wants to kill the Jews.
Man, it must be nice to have that card that trumps every other hand at the table every time.
 

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WATCH: Ranting Residents Blame Jews for Antisemitic Terror in Jersey City

As the bodies of the murdered Jews were still lying in their spilled blood after being shot to death in Jersey City by domestic terrorists, a representative from the organization “Americans Against Antisemitism” arrived at the site to give support to the Jewish families in the area.

There were still neighbors waiting for their children to be released from schools where they had been held in “lockdown” in order to keep them safe from the two attackers who instead had focused their murderous hate on the Jews in a kosher supermarket, and the police who had tried to protect them.
The videographer captured on film the spontaneous anti-Semitic tirades of residents who were blaming the Jews for their own murder, with others cheering them on.

Antisemitism in America is a far greater problem than it appears. The video is indeed shocking, but it is one that accurately reflects the current reality on the street. It is important for every adult Jew in the United States to watch it, and learn.

“My children are stuck at school because of Jew shenanigans,” one woman said. “They all the problem. Because if they ain’t come to Jersey City this sh****t would never go on. Take that sh****t somewhere else.”

Another person said to the Jewish support representative, “It was your kind that did it here, right? … Four of ya’ll dead, right? Four of your people that were dead, right? That’s great. If they was dead, they got shot dead. That’s great. Get them damn Jews the f****k out of here. Get these f*****g Jews. Get the Jews out of Jersey City.”

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us...uBXFBQkwFOnge2MVRr4hS_gnJcBdA2eeuevMlI0SoJKFc
 

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WATCH: Ranting Residents Blame Jews for Antisemitic Terror in Jersey City

As the bodies of the murdered Jews were still lying in their spilled blood after being shot to death in Jersey City by domestic terrorists, a representative from the organization “Americans Against Antisemitism” arrived at the site to give support to the Jewish families in the area.

There were still neighbors waiting for their children to be released from schools where they had been held in “lockdown” in order to keep them safe from the two attackers who instead had focused their murderous hate on the Jews in a kosher supermarket, and the police who had tried to protect them.
The videographer captured on film the spontaneous anti-Semitic tirades of residents who were blaming the Jews for their own murder, with others cheering them on.

Antisemitism in America is a far greater problem than it appears. The video is indeed shocking, but it is one that accurately reflects the current reality on the street. It is important for every adult Jew in the United States to watch it, and learn.

“My children are stuck at school because of Jew shenanigans,” one woman said. “They all the problem. Because if they ain’t come to Jersey City this sh****t would never go on. Take that sh****t somewhere else.”

Another person said to the Jewish support representative, “It was your kind that did it here, right? … Four of ya’ll dead, right? Four of your people that were dead, right? That’s great. If they was dead, they got shot dead. That’s great. Get them damn Jews the f****k out of here. Get these f*****g Jews. Get the Jews out of Jersey City.”

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us...uBXFBQkwFOnge2MVRr4hS_gnJcBdA2eeuevMlI0SoJKFc
I’m assuming these people are unaware that Jews were disproportionately involved in the civil rights movement and were historically some of the staunchest supporters of black Americans throughout history.
 

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WATCH: Ranting Residents Blame Jews for Antisemitic Terror in Jersey City

As the bodies of the murdered Jews were still lying in their spilled blood after being shot to death in Jersey City by domestic terrorists, a representative from the organization “Americans Against Antisemitism” arrived at the site to give support to the Jewish families in the area.

There were still neighbors waiting for their children to be released from schools where they had been held in “lockdown” in order to keep them safe from the two attackers who instead had focused their murderous hate on the Jews in a kosher supermarket, and the police who had tried to protect them.
The videographer captured on film the spontaneous anti-Semitic tirades of residents who were blaming the Jews for their own murder, with others cheering them on.

Antisemitism in America is a far greater problem than it appears. The video is indeed shocking, but it is one that accurately reflects the current reality on the street. It is important for every adult Jew in the United States to watch it, and learn.

“My children are stuck at school because of Jew shenanigans,” one woman said. “They all the problem. Because if they ain’t come to Jersey City this sh****t would never go on. Take that sh****t somewhere else.”

Another person said to the Jewish support representative, “It was your kind that did it here, right? … Four of ya’ll dead, right? Four of your people that were dead, right? That’s great. If they was dead, they got shot dead. That’s great. Get them damn Jews the f****k out of here. Get these f*****g Jews. Get the Jews out of Jersey City.”

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us...uBXFBQkwFOnge2MVRr4hS_gnJcBdA2eeuevMlI0SoJKFc
I watched that clip in the Jewish Press.
Are you telling me that person's views is representative of the greater population?
Not saying there isn't anti-Semitism out there but I guarantee you that chick trashes everything and everybody that doesn't suit her life.
Really, she's just a stupid bitch.
 
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