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jcpro

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Oh, I get it. When it suits you, free access to education and universal healthcare is not socialism.

So AOC and Bernie Sanders are not socialists.
Socialism is an economic definition, above all. Also explains why the socialists are inept when it comes to the economic and social issues. There's no such thing as free education or free healthcare because, in the end, someone needs to pay for it. The reason the advanced countries have a highly developed social systems, some better than others, is because of the successful free market economies that allow for a creation and prosperity of the middle class, thus creating a nation wide tax base capable of supporting all them "free" services. AOC is an economic ignoramus that like Warren or Sanders, thinks that real wealth is an inexhaustible resources that can just be willed into existence by the government actions like printing money and confiscatory taxation, without realizing that her dreams of "free" shit are completely dependent on the everyone agreeing to donate part of their wealth to the common cause. It's not one or the other. It's a balance decided by the consensus of all the voters. Socialists are just too fucking dumb to understand it.
 

danmand

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Socialism is an economic definition, above all. Also explains why the socialists are inept when it comes to the economic and social issues. There's no such thing as free education or free healthcare because, in the end, someone needs to pay for it. The reason the advanced countries have a highly developed social systems, some better than others, is because of the successful free market economies that allow for a creation and prosperity of the middle class, thus creating a nation wide tax base capable of supporting all them "free" services. AOC is an economic ignoramus that like Warren or Sanders, thinks that real wealth is an inexhaustible resources that can just be willed into existence by the government actions like printing money and confiscatory taxation, without realizing that her dreams of "free" shit are completely dependent on the everyone agreeing to donate part of their wealth to the common cause. It's not one or the other. It's a balance decided by the consensus of all the voters. Socialists are just too fucking dumb to understand it.
You are showing a complete ignorance about economic matters. Education, health care and welfare in the form of unemployment benefits are not somebody else's wealth being transferred. It is instead investments that society makes in order to improve society. It is clearly shown as results in the table referenced above https://www.prosperity.com/rankings

But it requires an understanding of the fundamental concept of "delayed Gratification", which has been proven to be the best if not the only predictor of future success in Children. You obviously failed the test. People like you would run any business into the ground by neglecting investments in the future.
 

Frankfooter

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Socialism is an economic definition, above all. Also explains why the socialists are inept when it comes to the economic and social issues. There's no such thing as free education or free healthcare because, in the end, someone needs to pay for it. The reason the advanced countries have a highly developed social systems, some better than others, is because of the successful free market economies that allow for a creation and prosperity of the middle class, thus creating a nation wide tax base capable of supporting all them "free" services. AOC is an economic ignoramus that like Warren or Sanders, thinks that real wealth is an inexhaustible resources that can just be willed into existence by the government actions like printing money and confiscatory taxation, without realizing that her dreams of "free" shit are completely dependent on the everyone agreeing to donate part of their wealth to the common cause. It's not one or the other. It's a balance decided by the consensus of all the voters. Socialists are just too fucking dumb to understand it.
And the consensus here in Canada supports 'socialist' education and health care, not to mention, police, road maintenance, military, social services.....
Norway and the northern EU countries show that you can balance further to the left and be economically more successful with more progressive taxation.
 
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