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    Provincial spending could fall far short of demand in health, education: watchdog

    Provincial spending could fall far short of demand in health, education: watchdog

    Need for services to exceed fiscal plan, financial accountability officer says

    The Canadian Press∑Posted: Dec 09, 2019 11:25 AM ET |

    Ontario's financial watchdog says there is a "significant risk" the Progressive Conservative government's spending plan will fall $5 billion short of what's needed for health and education.

    Financial Accountability Officer Peter Weltman says in his economic outlook and budget report released today that the need for those services will far exceed what's in the government's fiscal plan by 2021-22.

    He says the government could balance the budget by that year, instead of its target of 2023-24, if it doesn't implement tax cuts that were promised during the election but haven't yet been implemented.

    Weltman says the government has introduced many program and policy changes intended to cut costs over the past 18 months, which he estimates will save $6.6 billion.

    Even after factoring in those cost-saving measures, Weltman says the demand for public services will be $4.8 billion higher.

    He says if the government doesn't plan to boost spending by $5 billion, it could make additional cuts, look for more efficiencies in the delivery of public services, or underfund current programs.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...hdog-1.5389278

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    As long as the wealthy get their tax cut...

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    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    As long as the wealthy get their tax cut...
    As long as the teachers get their raises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    As long as the teachers get their raises.
    That reply makes no sense. By stiffing the health system/patients-in-need, he saves some money so he can give the rich tax cuts. Do you think he is shorting OHIP to give to the teachers? He is trying to stiff the teachers for the same reason he is stiffing OHIP. Tax cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    As long as the teachers get their raises.
    Raises are only for conservative MP's.
    Everyone knows that.

    This is about class sizes and school needs.
    Donít be a tough guy. Donít be a fool! I will call you later

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    The tax cuts were not needed, not for the people who got them anyway. They need to put more towards health care and less towards education. Teachers are overpaid babysitters. Kids can learn more online. They spend most of their time on the internet or computer anyway, might as well be useful. Class size has always been a non-issue to me. Just look at class sizes in university and college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooseifur View Post
    The tax cuts were not needed, not for the people who got them anyway. They need to put more towards health care and less towards education. Teachers are overpaid babysitters. Kids can learn more online. They spend most of their time on the internet or computer anyway, might as well be useful. Class size has always been a non-issue to me. Just look at class sizes in university and college.
    Younger kids need much more attention than college kids who are on verge of adulthood and understand what is involved in learning and studying, which is why, they made it to university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    Younger kids need much more attention than college kids who are on verge of adulthood and understand what is involved in learning and studying, which is why, they made it to university.
    Really young ones yes, middle and high school kids don't. They are all tech savvy and can learn online. Like I said they are glorified babysitters, the young kids need attention but not all the attention needed is for learning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooseifur View Post
    Really young ones yes, middle and high school kids don't. They are all tech savvy and can learn online. Like I said they are glorified babysitters, the young kids need attention but not all the attention needed is for learning.
    13, 14, 15 are mostly still immature and need guidance. Knowing how to access the internet does not mean they are mature enough to have developed good study habits and get an idea of what will be required in university in terms of research and composition. Even now many students do poorly in 1st year uni because they have trouble making the transition.

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    The Canadian educational system is abysmal, way behind most countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    13, 14, 15 are mostly still immature and need guidance. Knowing how to access the internet does not mean they are mature enough to have developed good study habits and get an idea of what will be required in university in terms of research and composition. Even now many students do poorly in 1st year uni because they have trouble making the transition.
    Needing guidance and getting educated are two different things, that's why I use the glorified babysitter analogy. So if many students are having trouble making the transition what does that tell you about the teachers? Obviously they aren't doing a good job. Good study habits are not created by teachers it's up to the students. If a kid needs extra help after school, How many teachers are willing to give that time? My guess would be very little. This was a while ago but my son had trouble in early high school with one subject and asked for extra help and didn't get any. I had to get him a tutor and everything worked out fine.

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