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Ford government spent $4 million on anti-carbon tax ads

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Ford government spent $4 million on anti-carbon tax ads

Colin D'MelloQueen's Park Bureau Chief and Videojournalist, CTV News Toronto

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Published Wednesday, December 4, 2019 12:01PM ESTLast Updated Wednesday, December 4, 2019 12:20PM EST

QUEEN'S PARK -- Premier Doug Ford’s government spent $4 million on anti-carbon tax television, radio and online commercials as part of an ongoing campaign against the federal regulatory price on carbon emissions.

Ontario’s Auditor General’s review of the “One Little Nickle” commercials found the primary objective of the ad campaign was to foster a "negative impression of the federal government and its carbon pricing policy.

Bonnie Lysyk also notes the taxpayer-funded commercials were designed to present a “positive impression of the provincial governing party.”

The ads featured piles of nickels falling out of gas station hoses and home heating vents to represent the increased cost to consumers resulting from the federal price on carbon emissions.

“The Federal Government is charging you a carbon tax,” the commercial declared.

While a source revealed to CTV News Toronto that the campaign costed “seven figures,” the Ford government never publicly revealed the cost to produce and air the commercials.

The government maintains that the cost is part of a $30-million fund to fight the federal carbon tax.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ford-government-spent-4-million-on-anti-carbon-tax-ads-1.4714925
 

Frankfooter

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Ford should be forced to pay for those personally, there is no way the government should spend that kind of cash on partisan bullshit ads.
 

nottyboi

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Every penny well spent.
Not gonna made a whit of difference and Ontario voted in favor of the tax, so how can you say it well spent? A $4M right wing circle jerk on the carbon tax is money well spent?
 

danmand

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Boober69

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Therefore they had to eliminate out of country OHIP coverage.
Yes, they had to eliminate out of country OHIP coverage...for rich snow birds who can afford their own. Most other people don't really care.
 

Boober69

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Not gonna made a whit of difference and Ontario voted in favor of the tax, so how can you say it well spent? A $4M right wing circle jerk on the carbon tax is money well spent?
He said he was going to fight it, and so by your logic, Ontario voted for him. So it's money well spent.
 

Frankfooter

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Yes, they had to eliminate out of country OHIP coverage...for rich snow birds who can afford their own. Most other people don't really care.
How do you think that would poll if Ontario were given a choice between partisan, anti-climate change ads or OHIP coverage?
 

Boober69

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How do you think that would poll if Ontario were given a choice between partisan, anti-climate change ads or OHIP coverage?
If there were 2 buttons on every gas pump, one saying "do not pay carbon tax on your purchase" and the other saying "pay carbon tax on your purchase"...which button would be worn out by people selecting it?
 

Frankfooter

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If there were 2 buttons on every gas pump, one saying "do not pay carbon tax on your purchase" and the other saying "pay carbon tax on your purchase"...which button would be worn out by people selecting it?
If there was a button at every bar that said, 'pay for drink with no tax', how many people would press it?
That's the point, you make people pay for something that has other social costs.
 

Boober69

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If there was a button at every bar that said, 'pay for drink with no tax', how many people would press it?
That's the point, you make people pay for something that has other social costs.
No, you force people to pay for something they don't support just because it's important to you? If it was such a good idea, why force people to pay it?
No one would push the pay button is my point. Even people who preach that we need to fight climate change.
Actually, those people would deserve a 3rd button: "press to have someone else pay the carbon tax".
 

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I wonder if the $4M includes the cost of the peel off by themself gas pump labels? I don’t live in an area of the province that has a lot of french speaking population, but one of the local gas stations has french stickers. Not sure if it’s a gov’t screwup, or the gas station owner ordered french ones as a form of protest about having to place them on his pumps.
 

Frankfooter

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No, you force people to pay for something they don't support just because it's important to you? If it was such a good idea, why force people to pay it?
No one would push the pay button is my point. Even people who preach that we need to fight climate change.
Actually, those people would deserve a 3rd button: "press to have someone else pay the carbon tax".
As long as that other person was an oil CEO I'd be with you.
 

Boober69

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I wonder if the $4M includes the cost of the peel off by themself gas pump labels? I don’t live in an area of the province that has a lot of french speaking population, but one of the local gas stations has french stickers. Not sure if it’s a gov’t screwup, or the gas station owner ordered french ones as a form of protest about having to place them on his pumps.
"Peel off by themselves"? Not quite...Liberal staffers brag about peeling them off.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/liberal-staffers-removing-anti-carbon-tax-stickers-minister-charges-1.4660946
 

Frankfooter

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Nothing too good for you when someone else is paying for it right? Right.
I'm all for everyone paying their fare share, unlike you.
Of course, you don't want taxes to pay for roads, health care, police, schools or anything 'socialist', do you?
 

Boober69

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I'm all for everyone paying their fare share, unlike you.
Of course, you don't want taxes to pay for roads, health care, police, schools or anything 'socialist', do you?
It all depends on what you mean by "fare". Or what you mean by "fair".

For example, you are probably guilty of "fare evasion". $61 million the TTC loses in revenue but doesn't do anything about it. So the rest of us have to pay more taxes when they cry they don't have money to. Is that "fair"?
 

Boober69

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Get over yourself... DoFo even admitted in a press conference that the stickers were shit and they should have used Deco Labels.
Maybe they should have used Deco labels if they were superior in quality. But the Liberal staffer admitted to ripping them off regardless.
Why didn't he just wait for them to fall off rather than breaking the law?
 
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