Allegra Escorts Collective
Toronto Escorts

Bizzare case of rape - sodomy with no permission

Hungry101

Active member
Jun 23, 2008
309
40
28
So because you would handle something differently then someone else, that means it didn't happen?
No. Absolutely not. I can just see how the defense could argue it was consensual and that she regretted it later and was even physically hurt from the experience that she consented to. She tried to give him this experience and was hurt in the process and after the man sodomized her and then scorned her and she was pissed off as a result.
 

Grimnul

Well-known member
May 15, 2018
1,482
28
48
Look guys, it’s true that there are cases where a woman makes false rape accusations out of spite, I know people it’s happened to, but realize, that is the minority. This kind of nonsense is why so many sexual assaults go unreported. People are afraid that they won’t be believed. I really don’t understand why people are so skeptical about this shit. How is it so hard to believe that a guy who wouldn’t even give his date his real name could, during the course of consensual sex, take things too far? Consent is not black and white, the line can move. It is possible to consent to some things and not to others, or to consent under a certain context or set of circumstances, or with a certain person only. I remember a while back there was a thread about a guy who tricked a girl into fucking him by pretending to be an online friend of hers, and everyone was saying that wasn’t rape, it was her being stupid for not knowing who she was fucking. Now, I hate a lot of this toxic radical feminism shit, but if people’s reactions here are anything to go by, they do have a bit of a point with the whole “rape culture” thing. I understand reasonable doubt and wanting to try to play devil’s advocate, but there’s that and then there’s flat out dismissing rape allegations essentially for no reason other than because, I assume, a few people have been reading a little too much incel/MGTOW propaganda. This is not a team sport, it’s not SP vs. client or man vs. woman, we’re all people, we should all have empathy for each other, and we don’t need to pick a side and stick to it.

Come on guys, we’re better than this.
 

Jasmine Raine

Well-known member
Jul 28, 2014
4,049
48
48
No. Absolutely not. I can just see how the defense could argue it was consensual and that she regretted it later and was even physically hurt from the experience that she consented to. She tried to give him this experience and was hurt in the process and after the man sodomized her and then scorned her and she was pissed off as a result.
And this is why women don't report being raped.

Because people, mostly men, come up with every justification to deny what actually happen. I don't understand why but for some reason men don't like to think that women have actually been raped.

This is a perfect example.
 

Hungry101

Active member
Jun 23, 2008
309
40
28
L I remember a while back there was a thread about a guy who tricked a girl into fucking him by pretending to be an online friend of hers, and everyone was saying that wasn’t rape, .
Yes, and I was one that initially believe that it was not rape in that case after reading TeeJay's post but after following the links I changed my mind based on the following quotes from the online articles that I didn't bother to read:

Police say Brar may have accessed her phone number using the motel guest registration information. Police say a man texted the woman, who thought he was someone she had previously chatted with on social media.

In the early hours of Oct. 12, the woman let a man into her room, the whole time thinking he was "an online acquaintance," police say. That's when the man sexually assaulted the woman and then fled, according to CPS.


If you read TeeJays initial posts I had a different idea of what went on.

After all the #MeToo rush to judgement witch hunts where victims of a pat on the butt call themselves "survivors" like they survived the Holocaust and when one of #MeToo's leader Alyssa Milano said in response to a comment about due process she said "Oh yeah, we're changing all that." You just get a little skeptical.
 

Grimnul

Well-known member
May 15, 2018
1,482
28
48
Yes, and I was one that initially believe that it was not rape in that case after reading TeeJay's post but after following the links I changed my mind based on the following quotes from the online articles that I didn't bother to read:

Police say Brar may have accessed her phone number using the motel guest registration information. Police say a man texted the woman, who thought he was someone she had previously chatted with on social media.

In the early hours of Oct. 12, the woman let a man into her room, the whole time thinking he was "an online acquaintance," police say. That's when the man sexually assaulted the woman and then fled, according to CPS.


If you read TeeJays initial posts I had a different idea of what went on.

After all the #MeToo rush to judgement witch hunts where victims of a pat on the butt call themselves "survivors" like they survived the Holocaust and when one of #MeToo's leader Alyssa Milano said in response to a comment about due process she said "Oh yeah, we're changing all that." You just get a little skeptical.
Well first off, you should know better than to listen to anything TeeJay says. Second, you can be skeptical without being dismissive. Third, a woman who suffered a severe injury to her anus is not in any way analogous to someone who “survived a pat on the butt”. You have to look at things on a case by case basis rather than defaulting to doubt.

Also just wanted to point out that you criticized the #MeToo movement for rushing to judgment, but also admitted to not bothering to read articles related to a case before passing judgment.
 

Hungry101

Active member
Jun 23, 2008
309
40
28
None of us were in the court room but I hear ya. In the case of TeeJay's post, he did provide a link to the articles. I thought he copied and pasted the all of the article but it turns out he did not. So shame on me for commenting and not doing my homework. In the case in this thread I just thought that this was a plausible defense. I never spoke with the woman. I didn't hear the evidence including the testimony of the nurse. It seems to me that someone having consensual anal sex could be hurt as a result of it. I remember my Doctor trying to give me a sigmoid and I know that he chased me across the table and if he were a sex partner or Jessica Rain with a strap on I could have got up and ran like a deer on opening day!
 

massman

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2001
4,279
2,536
113
As others have pointed out “freezing” during sexual assault is very common. Some people under severe threat essentially become sort of paralyzed , or at least unable to summon the strength to escape, or fight.

Another thing that happens to women after they are raped, many get dead, at the hands of the rapist. So not fighting may be self preservation, especially if isolated from any help.

I’d say a nurse trained and specializing in sexual assault exams is most qualified to comment on the severity of vaginal and anal injuries that can occur during forcible sex. Such injuries would never not be met with screams of pain, and be able to continue. Many of us (myself included) have had consentual anal sex and certainly
In my experience never has there been any indication of physical injury at all. Because with consensual sex, you go slow and stop if it hurst.
 

sp free

Well-known member
May 31, 2003
2,094
587
113
Look guys, it’s true that there are cases where a woman makes false rape accusations out of spite, I know people it’s happened to, but realize, that is the minority. This kind of nonsense is why so many sexual assaults go unreported. People are afraid that they won’t be believed. I really don’t understand why people are so skeptical about this shit. How is it so hard to believe that a guy who wouldn’t even give his date his real name could, during the course of consensual sex, take things too far? Consent is not black and white, the line can move. It is possible to consent to some things and not to others, or to consent under a certain context or set of circumstances, or with a certain person only. I remember a while back there was a thread about a guy who tricked a girl into fucking him by pretending to be an online friend of hers, and everyone was saying that wasn’t rape, it was her being stupid for not knowing who she was fucking. Now, I hate a lot of this toxic radical feminism shit, but if people’s reactions here are anything to go by, they do have a bit of a point with the whole “rape culture” thing. I understand reasonable doubt and wanting to try to play devil’s advocate, but there’s that and then there’s flat out dismissing rape allegations essentially for no reason other than because, I assume, a few people have been reading a little too much incel/MGTOW propaganda. This is not a team sport, it’s not SP vs. client or man vs. woman, we’re all people, we should all have empathy for each other, and we don’t need to pick a side and stick to it.

Come on guys, we’re better than this.
You can’t possibly know that false rape claims are the minority of rape claims.

Especially these days when “words are violence” or a look is considered rape. Then there is the whole alcohol issue.

It seems everyone is responsible for their actions while under the influence, except women that have sex.

This particular case does seem rather brutal but there also does seem to be an element of scorn. He gave her a fake name and she tracked him down through a reverse image search. I think there is a very real possibility that if his post car bang manner had been more to her liking, none of us would have ever heard of the Greek bandit.
 

Grimnul

Well-known member
May 15, 2018
1,482
28
48
You can’t possibly know that false rape claims are the minority of rape claims.

Especially these days when “words are violence” or a look is considered rape. Then there is the whole alcohol issue.

It seems everyone is responsible for their actions while under the influence, except women that have sex.

This particular case does seem rather brutal but there also does seem to be an element of scorn. He gave her a fake name and she tracked him down through a reverse image search. I think there is a very real possibility that if his post car bang manner had been more to her liking, none of us would have ever heard of the Greek bandit.
Complete straw man. She tracked him down because he raped her, he used a fake name so she had to use alternative channels. What the fuck is wrong with people here? Why is it so hard for you people to admit that rape exists? Every time a thread like this pops up, some moron always, without fail, pops up to defend the perpetrator. Do you really not understand how disgusting it is to suggest that she’s only going after him for forcibly sodomizing her because he wasn’t nice to her after he did it? What a low opinion of women you must have to suggest that the majority of rape claims are fabricated. As for the alcohol issue, that’s literally what the law says. It’s not even a moral issue, someone who is intoxicated legally cannot give consent, man or woman.

The level of ignorance here is staggering sometimes.
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
59,830
6,338
113
Did she really scream? there are no witnesses. Maybe she moaned, maybe she totally lied about the whole theing because he had his way with her and never called her back? Who knows.
Funny that a guy so critical of the police is also critical of women accusers.
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
59,830
6,338
113
No. Absolutely not. I can just see how the defense could argue it was consensual and that she regretted it later and was even physically hurt from the experience that she consented to. She tried to give him this experience and was hurt in the process and after the man sodomized her and then scorned her and she was pissed off as a result.
Of course that would be the defense's argument. Seems the court didn't find it believable.
 

basketcase

Well-known member
Dec 29, 2005
59,830
6,338
113
You can’t possibly know that false rape claims are the minority of rape claims.

Especially these days when “words are violence” or a look is considered rape....
I think you spend far too much time on your incell forums.
 

sp free

Well-known member
May 31, 2003
2,094
587
113
Complete straw man. She tracked him down because he raped her, he used a fake name so she had to use alternative channels. What the fuck is wrong with people here? Why is it so hard for you people to admit that rape exists? Every time a thread like this pops up, some moron always, without fail, pops up to defend the perpetrator. Do you really not understand how disgusting it is to suggest that she’s only going after him for forcibly sodomizing her because he wasn’t nice to her after he did it? What a low opinion of women you must have to suggest that the majority of rape claims are fabricated. As for the alcohol issue, that’s literally what the law says. It’s not even a moral issue, someone who is intoxicated legally cannot give consent, man or woman.

The level of ignorance here is staggering sometimes.
Where’s that list of men that had a few too many, took a mutt home from the bar and boned her, woke up full of regret and decided that he was raped?

I’ll wait.

As for the encounter itself, we are led to believe that the sex was consensual UNTIL he put it in her ass. I was one of the first in this thread to say it was rape and I even reiterated it in the post that sailed over your head.
 

Smallcock

Active member
Jun 5, 2009
13,703
21
38
I think you spend far too much time on your incell forums.
Stop trying to shame the man for having a plausible opinion that happens to differ from yours. That's a radical feminist tactic and it's well past its expiration date. Let's enjoy a discussion without name-calling and bullying.

With regard to the case, I accept the court's ruling (even though they get it wrong even in cases of murder). They presumably had access to all available information.
 

Valcazar

Just a bundle of fucking sunshine
Mar 27, 2014
27,877
49,634
113
Of course that would be the defense's argument. Seems the court didn't find it believable.
It's a standard defense under Canadian Law. You are allowed to argue you thought it was consensual. The burden of proof then shifts to you to show why that was reasonable of you to think.

Clearly, the court wasn't convinced.
 

nottyboi

Well-known member
May 14, 2008
22,447
1,331
113
I think if this guy had a better lawyer he would have been acquitted. But since I was not at the trial I cannot say for certain.
 

DirtyMiind

Active member
Jan 24, 2019
321
256
43
They confirmed injury to the anus. You don't get an injury in the ass without screaming.

Try sticking a 4 inch hard dildo up your ass full shaft, one shot and see if you scream. And you won't even do damage with that. So after to make yourself scream, imagine an anal penetration that caused an injury.

I know, ignorance is bliss.
Jessica speaks truth here....my wifes tiny finger hurts like hell if she goes too fast lol
 

TeeJay

Well-known member
Jun 20, 2011
8,052
731
113
west gta
Yes, and I was one that initially believe that it was not rape in that case after reading TeeJay's post but after following the links I changed my mind based on the following quotes from the online articles that I didn't bother to read:
The censorship insanity on this board knows no bounds does it... I posted 2 actual links to newstories (one local one national) and they got erased because someone didnt like the tone of the articles
 
Toronto Escorts