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    London Bridge 'hero' is a convicted murderer on day release

    London Bridge 'hero' is a convicted murderer on day release

    Abigail O'Leary

    One of the London Bridge terror attack heroes was a murderer on day release, it has emerged.

    James Ford, 42, was jailed for life in 2004 for the murder of 21-year-old Amanda Champion, who was found strangled with her throat cut in Ashford, Kent, in July 2003.

    Ford was caught after a Samaritans worker, whom he had called and confessed to, went to police with the tip off.

    The charity worker later lost his job for breaking the organisation's strict confidentiality policy.

    Yesterday, Ford found himself embroiled on the London Bridge attack as he helped bring down the knife man while out on day release from his life sentence.

    Ford is understood to be in the final days of his sentence at HMP Standford Hill, an open prison in Kent.

    It's believed Khan was tackled by ex-offenders inside Fishmongers' Hall - who had all been invited to a conference on rehabilitation.

    Source say Khan began "lashing out" in a downstairs room of the hall but was grabbed by the conference-goers and bundled out of the front door as he tried to go upstairs.

    Those who tackled Khan on the street were not ex-offenders.

    Ford's victim's aunt Angela Cox has told how she was contacted yesterday by Kent Police who informed her Ford had been involved in the terror attack as a member of the public, reports the Mail.

    Angela, 65, said she was "angry" Ford was out on day release after the horrific murder of her niece - who had the mental age of a 15-year-old.

    She said: "He is not a hero. He is a murderer out on day release, which us as a family didn't know anything about. He murdered a disabled girl. He is not a hero, absolutely not.

    "They let him out without even telling us. Any of my family could have been in London and just bumped into him."

    Angela described how a police liaison officer had called her yesterday asking if she was aware of the London incident before revealing Ford had been captured on TV.

    The still-heartbroken aunt said the officer told her "don't worry" before saying Ford was at the scene and "being classed as a hero".

    Former factory worker Ford has never revealed his motive for killing Amanda.

    At the time of his jailing, a judge told him: "What you did was an act of wickedness.

    "You clearly have an interest in the macabre and also an obsession with death including murder by throat cutting."

    Another hero at the scene, Thomas Gray, said he just did "what any Londoner would do".

    The 24-year-old, who is a tour firm manager, said he stamped on the terrorist's wrist to try to make him release one of two large knives he was carrying.

    Mr Gray said: "I was brought up on rugby and the rule is 'one in, all in'. I did what any Londoner would do and tried to put a stop to it."

    At the time of the attack, he had been driving northbound on London Bridge with his colleague Stevie, when they saw several people running towards the south of the bridge.

    They immediately turned the car off and ran towards the attacker, who had been "wrestled" to the floor by "five or six other blokes".

    Mr Gray said: "He had two knives on him, one in each hand, and it looked like they were taped to his hand".

    "I stamped on his left wrist while someone else smacked his hand on the ground and kicked one of the knives away.

    "I went to pick up the knife when I heard a cop say 'he has got a bomb'.

    "I then got back and hid behind a school bus which was full of kids at the time."

    Police have named the attacker as 28-year-old Usman Khan was convicted in 2012 for terrorism offences and released from prison last December on licence, Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu said.

    The Commissioner said Khan had been living in the Staffordshire area and officers were searching the address.

    He added police were "not actively seeking anyone else" over the attack which left two dead and several others injured.

    The Ministry of Justice said they would not be providing a comment.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world...ase/ar-BBXzNdD

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    And? When the rubber met the pavement he did the right thing. He deserves credit for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    And? When the rubber met the pavement he did the right thing. He deserves credit for it.
    I found it odd that you'd make post like that, but then I clicked the link and saw the photo.

    It explained everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derrick76 View Post
    I found it odd that you'd make post like that, but then I clicked the link and saw the photo.

    It explained everything.
    And exactly what is it that you disagree with? Or personal shots is all you got?
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    Is he redeemed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smallcock View Post
    Is he redeemed?
    LOL! From murdering the innocent? Not by a mile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    And? When the rubber met the pavement he did the right thing. He deserves credit for it.
    In spite of the irony. What's with the popularity of London Bridge with Muslim attacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    And exactly what is it that you disagree with? Or personal shots is all you got?
    The action deserves credit. Not the man. That is the difference.

    What he did was heroic and nothing to take away from but he as a man is not a "hero". We all do good deeds some days. I'm sure Bundy held a door or two open for people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica Rain View Post
    The action deserves credit. Not the man. That is the difference.

    What he did was heroic and nothing to take away from but he as a man is not a "hero". We all do good deeds some days. I'm sure Bundy held a door or two open for people.
    He sure did. The door on his Volkswagen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica Rain View Post
    The action deserves credit. Not the man. That is the difference.

    What he did was heroic and nothing to take away from but he as a man is not a "hero". We all do good deeds some days. I'm sure Bundy held a door or two open for people.
    Holding a door or helping your landlady is not the same as taking on a nutcase with a big knife and an explosive vest(even if it's only a simulated one). The action he took absolved him not from the previous crime, but he deserves a credit for what he did. Not all heros can be Audie Murphy.
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    This guy is helping little old ladies across the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    Holding a door or helping your landlady is not the same as taking on a nutcase with a big knife and an explosive vest(even if it's only a simulated one). The action he took absolved him not from the previous crime, but he deserves a credit for what he did. Not all heros can be Audie Murphy.
    You don't get what I'm saying.

    He gets credit for the deed of being heroic. One time. But he is far from a hero. Life time.

    Credit the action of the person, but not the personality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica Rain View Post
    You don't get what I'm saying.

    He gets credit for the deed of being heroic. One time. But he is far from a hero. Life time.

    Credit the action of the person, but not the personality
    Well said

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    Hate the game not the playa. When referring to Usman Khan, London mayor Sadiq Khan and the police are reassuring everybody this was an isolated incident. Nothing to see here. move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica Rain View Post
    You don't get what I'm saying.

    He gets credit for the deed of being heroic. One time. But he is far from a hero. Life time.

    Credit the action of the person, but not the personality
    But did the action to do something heroic in this case also not come from his personality??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil C. McNasty View Post
    But did the action to do something heroic in this case also not come from his personality??
    The personality drove the heroic action on this occasion. Probably saving additional lives.

    However in a past time line he demonstrated he's a monster and a coward.

    It will be up to him how he affects the world going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Mugabe View Post
    He sure did. The door on his Volkswagen.
    Man, you do love them one-liners. LOL.
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    Polish guy was stabbed 5 times but still kept fighting

    https://nypost.com/2019/12/03/london...off-terrorist/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil C. McNasty View Post
    Polish guy was stabbed 5 times but still kept fighting

    https://nypost.com/2019/12/03/london...off-terrorist/
    “Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.”

    ― Heraclitus

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    And exactly what is it that you disagree with? Or personal shots is all you got?
    Just tapping into your hypocrisy.

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    That is heroic.

    But the guy laughing in the video drove me nuts. I guess in his Defense he thought maybe it was just a random fight but still, why laugh at even that?
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    Just goes to show that people are capable of great acts, both good and evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhuarc29 View Post
    Just goes to show that people are capable of great acts, both good and evil
    Agreed, that was exactly my point in this post: https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...=1#post6564659

    You cant really separate the heroic action from his personality like Jessica says, because his personality is exactly where it came from.

    Holy shit, I should become a philosopher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Mugabe View Post
    This guy is helping little old ladies across the street.
    I didn't catch anything like that from the video.

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