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    Norway USA comparison

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    No arguing with the facts I was wonder where you got the numbers and how does Canada compare to the U.S.

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    Norway's population- 5 and change million. Tax to GDP ratio - over 42%. US-27%. US population- 330million +. It's like comparing hammers to gold fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    Norway's population- 5 and change million. Tax to GDP ratio - over 42%. US-27%. US population- 330million +. It's like comparing hammers to gold fish.
    Yeah. You tell them. Plus, all or almost all Norwegians are white. That is a huge minus. Where is the diversity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darts View Post
    Yeah. You tell them. Plus, all or almost all Norwegians are white. That is a huge minus. Where is the diversity?
    Hmmmm, some might say this sounds like a racist country! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by slurp View Post
    Hmmmm, some might say this sounds like a racist country! lol


    Nah Darts is just a socially inept troll who spouts racist (or other) shit when he thinks it will make him fit in with the other racists or whatever group he is trying to fit into. I almost feel guilty making fun of him. Almost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    Norway's population- 5 and change million. Tax to GDP ratio - over 42%. US-27%. US population- 330million +. It's like comparing hammers to gold fish.

    Indeed a shallow comparison.

    Among other things, Norway has a huge (nationalized) wealth from their offshore oil reserves that they invest in a long term trust to the benefit of the citizens. And well managed.

    Norway also does not fund a military or foreign excursions that cost trillions of dollars.

    Just not a good comparision. Simply a meme
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    Quote Originally Posted by slurp View Post
    Hmmmm, some might say this sounds like a racist country! lol
    Yeah, it was meant tongue in cheek.

    However, it is meaningless to compare the U.S. to a tiny country like Norway. More meaningful to compare the U.S. to a country of similar size like Russia, the PRC, India, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    Norway's population- 5 and change million. Tax to GDP ratio - over 42%. US-27%. US population- 330million +. It's like comparing hammers to gold fish.
    Quote Originally Posted by SchlongConery View Post
    Indeed a shallow comparison.

    Among other things, Norway has a huge (nationalized) wealth from their offshore oil reserves that they invest in a long term trust to the benefit of the citizens. And well managed.

    Norway also does not fund a military or foreign excursions that cost trillions of dollars.

    Just not a good comparision. Simply a meme

    Quote Originally Posted by Darts View Post
    Yeah, it was meant tongue in cheek.

    However, it is meaningless to compare the U.S. to a tiny country like Norway. More meaningful to compare the U.S. to a country of similar size like Russia, the PRC, India, etc.

    Of course there is no comparison between Norway and USA. One is a social democracy run for the people, the other is a Kleptocracy run by and for the Oligarchs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danmand View Post
    Of course there is no comparison between Norway and USA. One is a social democracy run for the people, the other is a Kleptocracy run by and for the Oligarchs.
    Norway hardly has an industrial base and can buy whatever needs for its small population from abroad with its tremendous oil wealth.

    You seem to have this enormous chip on your shoulder for the U.S. and American capitalism.

    The U.S. is one of the key drivers of the global economy. We can't just cast nets and feed on salmon.

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    Norway is a white gated Protestant community that has an North Sea oil trust fund. While I love Norway no one would consider it strategically important, especially Norwegians. This is a Nordic issue, tall white dudes tend to do well regardless of location, political or economic system, the nordics are simply a place with (almost) only tall white dudes. They keep it that way with ridiculous and racist language requirements, by running ads in locations where refuges originate warning them not to come, and keeping them on remote islands when they do come. I’ll skip the parts about eating whales and being drunks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp View Post
    Norway hardly has an industrial base and can buy whatever needs for its small population from abroad with its tremendous oil wealth.

    You seem to have this enormous chip on your shoulder for the U.S. and American capitalism.

    The U.S. is one of the key drivers of the global economy. We can't just cast nets and feed on salmon.
    Norway nationalized their oil and are rich as a result with much better social services.
    Too bad we didn't do it here or that the US didn't do it, right?
    Or do you think its better to give all that profit to Exxon et al?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Norway nationalized their oil and are rich as a result with much better social services.
    Too bad we didn't do it here or that the US didn't do it, right?
    Or do you think its better to give all that profit to Exxon et al?
    They tried to do it here, but Alberta preferred to sell it to foreigners for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nottyboi View Post
    They tried to do it here, but Alberta preferred to sell it to foreigners for less.
    Quebec buys its oil from Saudi Arabia instead of Alberta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp View Post
    Norway hardly has an industrial base and can buy whatever needs for its small population from abroad with its tremendous oil wealth.

    You seem to have this enormous chip on your shoulder for the U.S. and American capitalism.

    The U.S. is one of the key drivers of the global economy. We can't just cast nets and feed on salmon.
    Quote Originally Posted by onthebottom View Post
    Norway is a white gated Protestant community that has an North Sea oil trust fund. While I love Norway no one would consider it strategically important, especially Norwegians. This is a Nordic issue, tall white dudes tend to do well regardless of location, political or economic system, the nordics are simply a place with (almost) only tall white dudes. They keep it that way with ridiculous and racist language requirements, by running ads in locations where refuges originate warning them not to come, and keeping them on remote islands when they do come. I’ll skip the parts about eating whales and being drunks.
    Norway was doing just fine before it found the oil. Most of the oil money is put away for future generations.

    The good looking, blue eyed, blond, tall white dudes are doing well because they are well educated by a society that provides free education for all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danmand View Post
    Norway was doing just fine before it found the oil. Most of the oil money is put away for future generations.

    The good looking, blue eyed, blond, tall white dudes are doing well because they are well educated by a society that provides free education for all.
    They do well everywhere, that’s the point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by onthebottom View Post
    They do well everywhere, that’s the point.
    Tall white dudes do not do well in USA unless their parents can afford to pay for their education. That is why there are all the Trump supporters in the south and in fly over states. They have been left out of the economy.

    And they are not handsome blond, blue eyed either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onthebottom View Post
    Iíll skip the parts about eating whales and being drunks.
    Thatís nice of you. I noticed he skipped the parts about obesity rates and the opioid epidemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liminal View Post
    That’s nice of you. I noticed he skipped the parts about obesity rates and the opioid epidemic.
    Norwegians have a serious drug issue, but they are thinner, I’ll give you that.


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    Norway has a high suicide rate and a bad drug problem.

    Norway and Alberta both created their Sovereign Wealth Funds at approximately the same time, Premiere Lougheed wanted Alberta to be financially independent. His successors looted the fund to keep taxes artificially low. Premiere Kenney's budget doesn't help, giving generous tax cuts to corporations while cutting services. Within the next decade, Alberta will be getting equalization payments from Ontario and BC.

    Norway is the Death Metal capital of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious Von View Post
    Norway has a high suicide rate and a bad drug problem.

    Norway and Alberta both created their Sovereign Wealth Funds at approximately the same time, Premiere Lougheed wanted Alberta to be financially independent. His successors looted the fund to keep taxes artificially low. Premiere Kenney's budget doesn't help, giving generous tax cuts to corporations while cutting services. Within the next decade, Alberta will be getting equalization payments from Ontario and BC.

    Norway is the Death Metal capital of the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFwYJYl5GUQ
    Norway is in 51st place in regards to suicide. The US is 27.

    http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...te-by-country/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liminal View Post
    That’s nice of you. I noticed he skipped the parts about obesity rates and the opioid epidemic.
    onthebottom mentioned whales and drunks. I think that pretty much covers obesity and addiction.

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    Norway is rich in hydro-power resources. As pointed out
    it also doesn't have much of a heavy industry base. This
    translates to low demand of its crude oil most of which
    is exported to other nations. With the oil wealth it has
    accumulated and abundant electricity supply Norwegians
    can easily afford a green lifestyle. During the period
    of 2014--2018 Norway continued drilling offshore
    to develop new oil reserves at the expense of tens of
    billions of capital expenditure. And that happened during
    a time of depressed oil prices threatening the prospect
    of profitability of operations in other oil producing
    regions. So you can bet that Norway will not stop
    producing oil until the last drop of it is squeezed out
    and that it won't worry about its 'green' international image being tarnished by exporting pollution to the
    rest of the world. Norway will likely be among the
    first nations to attain zero emission. By the time when
    every car there on the road is a Tesla (purchased with
    oil money) Norway would be the
    Mecca for jet-setting climate change hypocrites like
    Bernie Sanders, Leonardo diCarprio and David Suzuki.
    I wish the Oslo Peace Centre will award Greta Thunberg
    the Nobel Peace price for her 'contribution' to emission
    reduction. Thunberg could give Norway's oil industry hell
    when delivering the Nobel lecture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oil&gas View Post
    I wish the Oslo Peace Centre will award Greta Thunberg
    the Nobel Peace price for her 'contribution' to emission
    reduction. Thunberg could give Norway's oil industry hell
    when delivering the Nobel lecture.
    o&g has a point.

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