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    Greta now says climate change is a crisis about "justice" and "human rights"

    This is interesting. Greta Thunberg has co-authored an opinion piece that says climate change is about more than environmental issues.

    After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment. It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all. Our political leaders can no longer shirk their responsibilities.
    https://www.project-syndicate.org/co...-et-al-2019-11

    Hmm. It seems young Greta has forgotten her recent speeches where she said the issue was supposed to be "beyond party politics."

    A call to "dismantle" our political systems -- whether you agree with the authors' characterization of them or not -- seems awfully political to me.

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    The leader of environmentalists is a child. Haha what a world.

    Maybe she should run for president on the democratic ticket too.


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    Only in the western world would so many people
    look to that attention-whore, arrogant bitch as a
    leader. She would be ignored in much of the developing
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    The apocalypse of an alleged climate change shares many of Jones’ cult-like qualities.

    There are other similar traits, but here are four:

    1. Climate doomsayers believe they possess truths about the past, present and future and their truths cannot be disputed by anyone.

    2. Doomsayers refuse to debate their belief. They call their dogma “settled science” and attack any critics that dare to whisper in the dark.

    3. Just like a cult, doomsayers has a formal doctrine-setting body — not unlike the Jones’ circle of advisors. The reports by the “ruling” body are thought to be the main source of authority and the texts of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are quoted as unholy scripture.

    4. Staying with the Jonestown analogy, the climate change alarmists have created mythologies intentionally built on lies and half-truths. The fallacy can be ascribed as an appeal to everyday experiences, giving the listener some sense of truth-based teaching to mix with the soup of confusion.

    Just as Jones and his small leadership group built lies on a foundation of lies and misinformation, the “sky-is-falling-crowd” spreads hoaxes to support their form of theology.

    Hoaxes

    By now it’s been all over the news that 2015 was the hottest year ever. If, in fact, 2015 was the hottest year of all time, there should be enough calamities happening to inspire a dozen movies. Instead, the opposite is occurring.

    1. Record Ice

    There was record sea ice in Antartica. In truth, a global warming expeditionary ship got stuck in the ice. Artic sea has been making a nice comeback, and the Great Lakes had record ice with only three ice-free months. If it were the hottest year, the ice should be melting.

    2. Record Snow

    The 2014/2015 winter saw record snowfall across the country. It wasn’t that long ago that scientists said that global warming would make the snow disappear, and children wouldn’t have any idea what snow is.

    3. Record Cold

    The winter saw many cold records crash. Remember the Polar Vortex?

    4. Rising Oceans

    Al Gore and company predicted that oceans would rise twenty-feet by 2100. So far the oceans are on track to lift by 12-inches. Many tidal gauges are showing no rise in sea level and practically none show any increase over the past two decades.

    5. Polar Bears

    Polar Bears are thriving. If this had been the hottest year on record, the Polar Bears would be in danger of disappearing.

    6. Moose

    When the moose population in Minnesota dropped observers were quick to blame global warming. Then a study was completed which found it was wolves that were killing the moose.

    7. 99% of Scientists

    99% of scientists don’t believe in man-made global warming. The 99% figure came from a study where only 75 scientists said they see global warming occurring. In another poll, over 30,000 scientists have signed a petition saying they don’t believe in catastrophic, man-made global warming.

    8. Nature and CO2

    Nature generates much more CO2 than humans. In 2014, [NASA] launched a satellite that measures CO2 levels globally. The assumption was that most of the CO2 would come from the over-industrialized northern hemisphere. They were surprised to learn it was coming from the rainforests of South America as well as Africa and China.

    9. It’s Not the Warmest Year

    Looking at the satellite data, it has not been the warmest year ever. The figures show there has been no global warming for almost two-decades. Continuing to use the ground weather station data which is influenced by the Urban Heat Island effect provides the reason for scientists calling it the warmest year on record.

    10. Hypocrisy

    Look at the lifestyles of those who preach global warming. If the main purveyors of global warming believed their propaganda, they would modify their lifestyle. They all own multiple large homes, yachts and private jets. Some individuals, such as Al Gore, profit from Carbon Taxes and other “green energy” laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canada-man View Post
    The apocalypse of an alleged climate change shares many of Jones’ cult-like qualities.

    There are other similar traits, but here are four:

    1. Climate doomsayers believe they possess truths about the past, present and future and their truths cannot be disputed by anyone.
    You really don't understand science, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    You really don't understand science, do you?
    pot meets kettle


    answer this question

    Why are bodies of water, such as lakes, relatively slow to respond to heating or cooling compared to the land surrounding them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by canada-man View Post
    pot meets kettle


    answer this question

    Why are bodies of water, such as lakes, relatively slow to respond to heating or cooling compared to the land surrounding them?
    Oh god.
    I have no idea what denier post with ridiculous article you have lined up for spamming, but have no desire to answer stupid questions.
    Instead, lets look at the real problem.

    Scientists: Earth Endangered by New Strain of Fact-Resistant Humans



    MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report)—Scientists have discovered a powerful new strain of fact-resistant humans who are threatening the ability of Earth to sustain life, a sobering new study reports.

    The research, conducted by the University of Minnesota, identifies a virulent strain of humans who are virtually immune to any form of verifiable knowledge, leaving scientists at a loss as to how to combat them.

    “These humans appear to have all the faculties necessary to receive and process information,” Davis Logsdon, one of the scientists who contributed to the study, said. “And yet, somehow, they have developed defenses that, for all intents and purposes, have rendered those faculties totally inactive.”

    More worryingly, Logsdon said, “As facts have multiplied, their defenses against those facts have only grown more powerful.”

    While scientists have no clear understanding of the mechanisms that prevent the fact-resistant humans from absorbing data, they theorize that the strain may have developed the ability to intercept and discard information en route from the auditory nerve to the brain. “The normal functions of human consciousness have been completely nullified,” Logsdon said.

    While reaffirming the gloomy assessments of the study, Logsdon held out hope that the threat of fact-resistant humans could be mitigated in the future. “Our research is very preliminary, but it’s possible that they will become more receptive to facts once they are in an environment without food, water, or oxygen,” he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Oh god.
    I have no idea what denier post with ridiculous article you have lined up for spamming, but have no desire to answer stupid questions.
    Instead, lets look at the real problem.
    What Frankie means is "I don't have a clue so let me deflect as I always do .... " . Facts tend to confuse him so take it slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slurp View Post
    What Frankie means is "I don't have a clue so let me deflect as I always do .... " . Facts tend to confuse him so take it slow.
    Its exhausting giving you facts over and over again and watching you deny them.
    The same way you think Trump tells the truth and never commits fraud or assaults women.

    But here you go, today's chart is Exxon's prediction of climate change from 1982.
    Note that it agrees with the UN's latest projections saying 3.2ļC warming by 2100.
    Why do you think that Exxon's internal scientists came up with the same projections as government funded scientists from over 100 countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Its exhausting giving you facts over and over again and watching you deny them.
    The same way you think Trump tells the truth and never commits fraud or assaults women.

    But here you go, today's chart is Exxon's prediction of climate change from 1982.
    Note that it agrees with the UN's latest projections saying 3.2ļC warming by 2100.
    Why do you think that Exxon's internal scientists came up with the same projections as government funded scientists from over 100 countries?

    you have no right to complain about me denying "your facts" and denying them WHEN YOU DO THE SAME when i and others give you facts and you deny them because you disagree with them like a a member of a cult. and when are you going to give up your car and other stuff that depend on fossil fuels? don't be a hypocrite set an example for others to follow
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    Quote Originally Posted by canada-man View Post
    you have no right to complain about me denying "your facts" and denying them WHEN YOU DO THE SAME when i and others give you facts and you deny them because you disagree with them like a a member of a cult. and when are you going to give up your car and other stuff that depend on fossil fuels? don't be a hypocrite set an example for others to follow
    You don't post facts, you spam images from denier sites without understanding what they say.
    Then when I give you rebuttals you just ignore them, since you don't understand them, and start over with spamming different images.

    So I'm going to keep posting this chart from Exxon until you tell me why you think that they came up with the same projections that the IPCC did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    You don't post facts, you spam images from denier sites without understanding what they say.
    Then when I give you rebuttals you just ignore them, since you don't understand them, and start over with spamming different images.

    So I'm going to keep posting this chart from Exxon until you tell me why you think that they came up with the same projections that the IPCC did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by canada-man View Post
    pot meets kettle


    answer this question

    Why are bodies of water, such as lakes, relatively slow to respond to heating or cooling compared to the land surrounding them?
    Thermal mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canada-man View Post
    Your chart is wrong.
    I tried to check where it came from but the only web address listed is lunarplaner.com, which is hilariously fucked up.
    From their description of theirs site:
    Welcome to The Lunar Planner
    Nick Anthony Fiorenza, author and creator of Lunarplanner.com
    This entire web site is an educational resource for those interested in Astronomical Astrology, Sidereal Astrology, the relation between Tropical and Sidereal Zodiacs, Astrology of the Stars, Planetary Synodic Cycles & Synodic Astrology, Dwarf Planets, Asteroids and Centaurs, Earth's Precessional Cycle and Earth's Precessional Cross, Solar Cycles, Planetary Resonances, Earthgrid Mapping & Seismic Prediction, Planetary Bio-Harmonics in Light, Color & Sound, Health & Healing, and the Evolution of Human Consciousness. Please Enjoy!

    Nick Anthony Fiorenza
    Live in magnificence with the Heavens, in harmony with the natural Lunar Cycles, and in attunement to Mother Earth.
    This is what you think is the best climatology around?
    That's really fucked up, CM.

    Your sources are total fucking bullshit and this really sums it up.

    Now, back to the real question, why the fuck do you think Exxon scientists came up with the exact same projections for the climate that the IPCC has?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Its exhausting giving you facts over and over again and watching you deny them.
    The same way you think Trump tells the truth and never commits fraud or assaults women.

    But here you go, today's chart is Exxon's prediction of climate change from 1982.
    Note that it agrees with the UN's latest projections saying 3.2ļC warming by 2100.
    Why do you think that Exxon's internal scientists came up with the same projections as government funded scientists from over 100 countries?
    You never game me any facts, at least not real ones. I have never said Trump always tells the truth or has never committed fraud. I do not think he has assaulted any women, and no one has ever proved that he has. More example of made up crap from your mind that you mistakenly put forth as fact.

    WTF is up with that chart? You needed to prove my assertion that you deflect? Good job! My reply to you was based on your failure to answer canada-man. That chart is totally unrelated to that and another deflection. You always insist people answer questions about your made up BS but will not respond in kind. Not sure why anyone even bothers replying to you, it's worse than talking to a wall.

    Why aren't you thanking kirk for manning up and answering for you? You should be ashamed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slurp View Post
    You never game me any facts, at least not real ones. I have never said Trump always tells the truth or has never committed fraud. I do not think he has assaulted any women, and no one has ever proved that he has. More example of made up crap from your mind that you mistakenly put forth as fact.

    WTF is up with that chart? You needed to prove my assertion that you deflect? Good job! My reply to you was based on your failure to answer canada-man. That chart is totally unrelated to that and another deflection. You always insist people answer questions about your made up BS but will not respond in kind. Not sure why anyone even bothers replying to you, it's worse than talking to a wall.

    Why aren't you thanking kirk for manning up and answering for you? You should be ashamed.
    The chart?
    That chart is from Exxon's scientists, who in 1982 projected that the earth would warm the same amount we are seeing now and the same projections for the end of the century as the IPCC says.
    What it shows is that the claim that IPCC represented scientists are biased and wrong is bullshit, as Exxon's own scientists came up with the same answers 40 years ago.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...hange-warnings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    The chart?
    That chart is from Exxon's scientists, who in 1982 projected that the earth would warm the same amount we are seeing now and the same projections for the end of the century as the IPCC says.
    What it shows is that the claim that IPCC represented scientists are biased and wrong is bullshit, as Exxon's own scientists came up with the same answers 40 years ago.
    Again it is not answering his question, it is just another deflection. Proving my point. Thanks! Now go thank james t kirk for being the man you are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slurp View Post
    Again it is not answering his question, it is just another deflection. Proving my point. Thanks! Now go thank james t kirk for being the man you are not.
    CM is deflecting, I asked him this question on the other climate change thread and he refuses to answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    CM is deflecting, I asked him this question on the other climate change thread and he refuses to answer.
    quid pro quo - you gotta love that! You don't answer him, he doesn't answer you. Perhaps not confusing threads would help you make sense .... NAH!!! Just kdding

    james t kirk I will thank you on behalf of Frankie, he just doesn't have it in him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    CM is deflecting, I asked him this question on the other climate change thread and he refuses to answer.
    you refuse to answer mine about 50 years of repeated failed climate doomsday predictions. stop being a hypocrite
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    Quote Originally Posted by canada-man View Post
    you refuse to answer mine about 50 years of repeated failed climate doomsday predictions. stop being a hypocrite
    Your images and newspaper clippings are not projections of climate change by climatologists.
    If you want real predictions of climate change then you should go to:
    1) Exxon and Shell's scientists 1982 prediction
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...hange-warnings
    http://www.climatefiles.com/shell/19...rt-greenhouse/

    2) James Hansen's 1988 prediction
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ing-prediction

    3) IPCC's projections
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Your images and newspaper clippings are not projections of climate change by climatologists.
    If you want real predictions of climate change then you should go to:
    1) Exxon and Shell's scientists 1982 prediction
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...hange-warnings
    http://www.climatefiles.com/shell/19...rt-greenhouse/

    2) James Hansen's 1988 prediction
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ing-prediction

    3) IPCC's projections
    again don't ask me questions if you refuse to answer mine and stop being a hypocrite by give up your reliance of fossil fuels you hate so much
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    Quote Originally Posted by canada-man View Post
    again don't ask me questions if you refuse to answer mine and stop being a hypocrite by give up your reliance of fossil fuels you hate so much
    I answered your questions.
    You can't answer mine, can you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smallcock View Post
    The leader of environmentalists is a child. Haha what a world.
    She seems to believe "political science" is an actual area of scientific study. I would love to know what metric she thinks scientists use to analyze "human rights."

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