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Anti-Israel protest turns ugly at York U

Frankfooter

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These chants aren't anti-Semitic.
From your article.

Video posted to social media of the protest showed little outright violence, but many people jostling in an unruly crowd overseen by police, and loud chanting of “Viva viva Palestina,” “Occupation is a crime,” “viva intifada (uprising)” and “One two three four occupation no more five six seven eight Israel is an apartheid state.”
Sounds like the violence was by the pro-apartheid, Israelis who hosted Israeli soldiers at a university event..

One SAIA protester, a Syrian refugee who lost 50 members of his extended family and came to Canada three years ago, said he was protesting the event in a show of solidarity. As a refugee himself, he said he understands the pain of the Palestinian people, and that a university campus is not the place to host members of a foreign military.

“You go to an educational platform, you do not present any type or any form of aggression, any type of hostility, violence … this is where you teach ethics, morals, knowledge,” he said. “Go hold your gun in your country, go protect your country, don’t come here in a school.”

He also said that at one point, after he chanted “Free Palestine,” a man rushed at him, grabbed the front of his jacket, pushed him and punched him.
One SAIA protester, a Syrian refugee who lost 50 members of his extended family and came to Canada three years ago, said he was protesting the event in a show of solidarity. As a refugee himself, he said he understands the pain of the Palestinian people, and that a university campus is not the place to host members of a foreign military.
https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/palestinian-israeli-protesters-clash-at-york-university

Reports say that the violence was caused by JDL, which are listed as terrorists.
 

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These chants aren't anti-Semitic.
From your article.



Sounds like the violence was by the pro-apartheid, Israelis who hosted Israeli soldiers at a university event..



One SAIA protester, a Syrian refugee who lost 50 members of his extended family and came to Canada three years ago, said he was protesting the event in a show of solidarity. As a refugee himself, he said he understands the pain of the Palestinian people, and that a university campus is not the place to host members of a foreign military.
https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/palestinian-israeli-protesters-clash-at-york-university

Reports say that the violence was caused by JDL, which are listed as terrorists.
From the same article:

“At the second floor landing, they met a group of pro-Israel counter-protesters, including members of the Jewish Defence League, who chanted “Am Yisra’el Chai” and held up Israeli flags and signs of their own.”

“Hailey Merten, a Jewish social work student at York, said she had mixed feelings about the event. On the one hand, it was eye-opening for her. “I saw firsthand how many York students are against my home, Israel,” she told The CJN. But on the other, she felt embarrassed and a little bit ashamed by the way other Jewish people acted.

Overall, she felt the event was “kinda useless,” since it was for the most part Zionists preaching to an audience of Zionist Jews. She also called the evening “traumatic.”

Watching my community scream, call them horrible names and physically attack the other side, that’s not what our Jewish values look like,” she said.”
 

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These chants aren't anti-Semitic.
From your article.



Sounds like the violence was by the pro-apartheid, Israelis who hosted Israeli soldiers at a university event..



One SAIA protester, a Syrian refugee who lost 50 members of his extended family and came to Canada three years ago, said he was protesting the event in a show of solidarity. As a refugee himself, he said he understands the pain of the Palestinian people, and that a university campus is not the place to host members of a foreign military.
https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/palestinian-israeli-protesters-clash-at-york-university

Reports say that the violence was caused by JDL, which are listed as terrorists.
Um. There were chants that included "go back to the ovens".

That's about as bad anti semetic wise as it gets.

As well as attempting to shut down free speech on campus. York U was right to allow this.
 

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Um. There were chants that included "go back to the ovens".

That's about as bad anti semetic wise as it gets.

As well as attempting to shut down free speech on campus. York U was right to allow this.
I saw that claim but it was unattributed as usual. I wonder why. Sounds like the usual Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood script.

Postscript:

Just watched the video. Didn’t hear those words a single time. Heard lots of “Viva Viva Intifada”.
 

Frankfooter

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Um. There were chants that included "go back to the ovens".

That's about as bad anti semetic wise as it gets.

As well as attempting to shut down free speech on campus. York U was right to allow this.
I have seen nothing to back up your claim.
York U should not host foreign army enlistment meetings.
 

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I've been to these protests. The media always makes the Pro-Israel crowd to be the victims when they are the ones that usually start the trouble.
 

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I've been to these protests. The media always makes the Pro-Israel crowd to be the victims when they are the ones that usually start the trouble.
So if that was the case why were the SAIA protesters wearing scarves over their faces? Like ANTIFA. Violent thugs trying to shut down free speech and thought. They'll keep doing this because no one ever faces serious ramifications for inciting violence.
 

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So if that was the case why were the SAIA protesters wearing scarves over their faces? Like ANTIFA. Violent thugs trying to shut down free speech and thought. They'll keep doing this because no one ever faces serious ramifications for inciting violence.
Because of Israeli trolls.
Same problem the witnesses at Trump's impeachment are having, they are attacked constantly by trolls after testifying.
 

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So if that was the case why were the SAIA protesters wearing scarves over their faces? Like ANTIFA. Violent thugs trying to shut down free speech and thought. They'll keep doing this because no one ever faces serious ramifications for inciting violence.
That has nothing to do with anything.

I've witnessed Pro-Zionist protesters hand out comics depicting Muslims as terrorists, and yes I was given one in Vari Hall. I've also seen these people try to incite unrelated events into conflict, which weren't even protests. The media almost always takes the Pro-Zionist side, and there are many Jews on the Pro-Palestinian/BDS side as well, as a matter of fact.
 

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David Noble who was one of York's notable professors, exposed directors of the York University Foundation, the school’s fundraising arm, and their links to pro-Israel organizations.

He also took the school to the HRC because they canceled all classes on Jewish holidays, when their enrollment at the school was so small in comparison to other religions present there.

Oh yeah, he was also a Jew.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/12/29/david_noble_activist_and_academic_gadfly_dies_at_65.html
 
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These chants aren't anti-Semitic.
From your article.



Sounds like the violence was by the pro-apartheid, Israelis who hosted Israeli soldiers at a university event..



One SAIA protester, a Syrian refugee who lost 50 members of his extended family and came to Canada three years ago, said he was protesting the event in a show of solidarity. As a refugee himself, he said he understands the pain of the Palestinian people, and that a university campus is not the place to host members of a foreign military.
https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/palestinian-israeli-protesters-clash-at-york-university

Reports say that the violence was caused by JDL, which are listed as terrorists.
Reports say the SAIA started it and the JDL fought back. They are both at fault. Everyone has a right to protest peacefully. The police are now looking into the incident. Possible hate speech laws may have been broken.
 

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Reports say the SAIA started it and the JDL fought back. They are both at fault. Everyone has a right to protest peacefully. The police are now looking into the incident. Possible hate speech laws may have been broken.
The JDL are recognized as terrorists.
The reports I read say they instigated.
 

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The JDL are recognized as terrorists.
The reports I read say they instigated.
Where did you read it? can you post it?
Everything I've read said the SAIA started it but those were from right wing leaning outlets, the other stories from neutral outlets haven't said who started it, they aren't sure. If you got it from a pro-Palestine outlet that's just the other side of the coin.
 

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I have seen nothing to back up your claim.
York U should not host foreign army enlistment meetings.
There isn’t anything in that article saying they were recruiting for the army, all it said is some vets were there. There are vets everywhere, I don’t see that as an issue.
 

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Where did you read it? can you post it?
Everything I've read said the SAIA started it but those were from right wing leaning outlets, the other stories from neutral outlets haven't said who started it, they aren't sure. If you got it from a pro-Palestine outlet that's just the other side of the coin.
Not quite true. You have the Canadian Jewish News identifying the presence of JDL thugs..the organization founded by Meir Kahane and responsible for multiple murders and bombings. The JDL is not resisting a half century military occupation or apartheid. The article also only cites the violence of pro-Israel supporters.
 

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Funny coming from a guy who thinks it is racist to call Hamas or Islamic Jihad terrorists.

And funny but despite plenty of Palestinian factions being on this list, I don't see the JDL.
https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/ntnl-scrt/cntr-trrrsm/lstd-ntts/crrnt-lstd-ntts-en.aspx
JDL PARTNERS WITH SOLDIERS OF ODIN ON ‘AD HOC’ BASIS

https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/jdl-partners-soldiers-odin-ad-hoc

Birds of a feather. Now you are a JDL booster.
PEP Progressive Except Palestine.
 

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JDL PARTNERS WITH SOLDIERS OF ODIN ON ‘AD HOC’ BASIS

https://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/jdl-partners-soldiers-odin-ad-hoc

Birds of a feather. Now you are a JDL booster.
PEP Progressive Except Palestine.
And that is disgusting. They aren't a terrorist entity though (Hamas and Islamic Jihad are).

I see you have no comment on anti-Israel protesters calling for violence though. I don't see any difference between JDL and the anti-Israel protest groups. Of course you will support violence from one side if it helps your agenda.


p.s. I love the way you guys use a Jewish media source when it suits you but automatically reject it as biased when it doesn't.
 
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