Polling Upside Down on Impeachment

Well, anyone with a half a brain can see that this is just an attempt to bring Trump down based on feelings and opinions. So far, Trump is mirroring Bubba Clinton. Interesting.

He moved the Embassy to Jerusalem. He recognized the Golan Heights. He's now recognized the West Bank settlements. What more does Israel want ? Oh ya...War with Iran. And they won't stop until he give them War with Iran. Which will end up being the destruction of Israel but maybe that's what these psychopaths actually want.

Big Sleazy said:

He moved the Embassy to Jerusalem. He recognized the Golan Heights. He's now recognized the West Bank settlements. What more does Israel want ? Oh ya...War with Iran. And they won't stop until he give them War with Iran. Which will end up being the destruction of Israel but maybe that's what these psychopaths actually want.

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Anyone with half a brain would see that using appropriated funds to promote a debunked conspiracy theory to further one's personal political ambition, to the detriment of national security, is an abuse of the office.and the perpetrator of such a thing should be held to account. Oh I forgot the GOP elected a king who is above the law and in the process sold out democacy. Congratulations.

toguy5252 said:

Anyone with half a brain would see that using appropriated funds to promote a debunked conspiracy theory to further one's personal political ambition, to the detriment of national security, is an abuse of the office.and the perpetrator of such a thing should be held to account. Oh I forgot the GOP elected a king who is above the law and in the process sold out democacy. Congratulations.

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Here's some gentlemanly advice. You don't ever want to think you are the smartest guy in the room especially when that room is enormous.

WyattEarp said:

Here's some gentlemanly advice. You don't ever want to think you are the smartest guy in the room especially when that room is enormous.

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You don’t have to be a genius to recognize extortion when you see it.

Knuckle Ball said:

You don’t have to be a genius to recognize extortion when you see it.

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You also don't have to be a genius to recognize that paying a politician's underachieving son almost a $1,000,000 per year is probably a bribe.

WyattEarp said:

You also don't have to be a genius to recognize that paying a politician's underachieving son almost a $1,000,000 per year is probably a bribe.

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Is that how much Don jr makes or Eric?

Frankfooter said:

Is that how much Don jr makes or Eric?

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Look....Frank made a funny.

WyattEarp said:

Here's some gentlemanly advice. You don't ever want to think you are the smartest guy in the room especially when that room is enormous.

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LOL. Thank you for the advice but I was intending to reply to post 2 not 3.

WyattEarp said:

You also don't have to be a genius to recognize that paying a politician's underachieving son almost a $1,000,000 per year is probably a bribe.

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LOL. Why is that you and your fellow travelers are always quick to judgement expect on the case of the Chosen One or Kavanaugh or whoever when you require proof beyond what any court in Canada (I can only speak as a Canadian lawyer|) would require. What crime, other than nepotism, is "probably" evidence of. Is it different than the WH hiring Giuliani's son? or Sondland getting an ambassadorship by donating $1M to the Chosen one. it is unseemly i agree but not illegal and in the case of Biden investigated and debunked.

toguy5252 said:

it is unseemly i agree but not illegal and in the case of Biden investigated and debunked.

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Who investigated this, CNN? The Washington Post? LOL!

Eastern European oligarchs are not altruists. If they pay millions to some American politician's idiot son, it's because they expect something of value in return. They are not in the business of throwing their money away. There has been no investigation of what they got for their investment.

It's not yet time to make allegations, but there is certainly a valid basis for a real investigation.

Dutch Oven said:

Who investigated this, CNN? The Washington Post? LOL!

Eastern European oligarchs are not altruists. If they pay millions to some American politician's idiot son, it's because they expect something of value in return. They are not in the business of throwing their money away. There has been no investigation of what they got for their investment.

It's not yet time to make allegations, but there is certainly a valid basis for a real investigation.

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If you have the evidence then please post it and not make up the usual assumptions based on Alt Right Conspiracy Theory Websites plus Fox Right Wing Hosts who do so on a 24 /7 basis. Meanwhile the Intel Agencies have only unearthed evidence that Russia interfered in the election. Ukraine investigations did not reveal any dirt on the Bidens. But for someone like Nutty Nunes to go and try to find dirt on the Bidens at the taxpayers expense, just so that Trump can use it for his own political means, needs to be fully investigated!!

bver_hunter said:

Ukraine investigations did not reveal any dirt on the Bidens. But for someone like Nutty Nunes to go and try to find dirt on the Bidens at the taxpayers expense, just so that Trump can use it for his own political means, needs to be fully investigated!!

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You do realize that investigating Ukraine election meddling whether it is true or not is not really an abuse of power. The President and his lieutenants can believe it, investigate it or choose whatever.

Simply put, the American public has been told a lot of stuff that was repeated by the media over and over again that was found to be untrue. So now we are told don't look over here, it's a hoax. Okay, but as interesting as this might sound, this itself is not an impeachable issue.

WyattEarp said:

You also don't have to be a genius to recognize that paying a politician's underachieving son almost a $1,000,000 per year is probably a bribe.

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Then Ivanka whose own brands went bust, sits for dinner with the Chinese President and is then awarded 16 Chinese Trademarks. Junior Donny, goes to India on taxpayers expenses and gets $35,000 per person deposits to listen to his pathetic presentations, just so that it can be down payments towards Trump Conflict of Interests Business Dealings. Not to mention other business trips to Saudi Arabia, and golf courses worldwide. Especially after numerous businesses of theirs went bankrupt. You are telling us that these are lesser evils than the Hunter's employment in the Ukraine?? Butler came up with some fake alt right crap about Hunter's $1.5 Billions that he got from China. These conspiracy theories are debunked, so give it a rest!!

bver_hunter said:

You are telling us that these are lesser evils than the Hunter's employment in the Ukraine??

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Simple questions. Why do you think a Ukrainian oligarch would pay someone with no relevant experience or credentials, who happens to be Joe Biden's son, millions of dollars to sit on the Board of his corrupt gas company? Do you think that this oligarch just "took a flyer" that somehow his investment would be pay off? Did he lose his bet on Joe?

Dutch Oven said:

Who investigated this, CNN? The Washington Post? LOL!

Eastern European oligarchs are not altruists. If they pay millions to some American politician's idiot son, it's because they expect something of value in return. They are not in the business of throwing their money away. There has been no investigation of what they got for their investment.

It's not yet time to make allegations, but there is certainly a valid basis for a real investigation.

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Firstly you will see if you took 10 seconds to looks that it was not CNN etc. Do your own homework before you make uninformed statements.

By the way what do you think Lev Parnas got by paying Rudy $500K. But of course that is different.

Also by the way if there is alleged criminal activity by an American citizen who do you think should investigate it? The DOJ which is the law enforcement agency of the US or Lindsay Graham who is nothing more than an apologist and enabler of the Chosen One? Don't bother answering everyone knows your answer.

Dutch Oven said:

Simple questions. Why do you think a Ukrainian oligarch would pay someone with no relevant experience or credentials, who happens to be Joe Biden's son, millions of dollars to sit on the Board of his corrupt gas company? Do you think that this oligarch just "took a flyer" that somehow his investment would be pay off? Did he lose his bet on Joe?

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Do you think that's any better or worse than foreign diplomats renting massive amounts of Trump hotel rooms and then leaving them empty?

Dutch Oven said:

Simple questions. Why do you think a Ukrainian oligarch would pay someone with no relevant experience or credentials, who happens to be Joe Biden's son, millions of dollars to sit on the Board of his corrupt gas company? Do you think that this oligarch just "took a flyer" that somehow his investment would be pay off? Did he lose his bet on Joe?

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Simple question: Why was the presidents lawyer and Nunes meeting with the very oligarch accused of corruption?

Dutch Oven said:

Simple questions. Why do you think a Ukrainian oligarch would pay someone with no relevant experience or credentials, who happens to be Joe Biden's son, millions of dollars to sit on the Board of his corrupt gas company? Do you think that this oligarch just "took a flyer" that somehow his investment would be pay off? Did he lose his bet on Joe?

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Spell out the exact crime that was involved as Mueller investigated it and found none. The Intel Agencies did not manage to find any either. Ethically, was it right?? Probably not. But tell me something. Trump imposes tariffs on China. Then his daughter has dinner with the President of China, and she is then awarded 16 or so trademarks. This especially after her own brands in clothing and other types of apparel were shut down due to poor sales. I am waiting to hear whether this does require investigations or not. Did Trump use the tariffs as a buffer, just to get his daughter all these trademarks??