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So Dubas should not have fired Babcock? Just asking.

And you can prove he fired him because of fans and journalist??

Word on the street was Dubas wanted him gone a long time ago but his hands were tied. Anyway, that's besides the point. My statement stands.
 

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And you can prove he fired him because of fans and journalist??
I didn't say that, but I will say that you can't deny that fans and journalist said he should go. Do you think that they were wrong?

I also never said that a GM should listen to fans and media. I merely pointed out that not everybody agrees that they should wait 'til the "perfect" time and make mega-signings then. Why did that bother you?
 

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I didn't say that, but I will say that you can't deny that fans and journalist said he should go. Do you think that they were wrong?

I also never said that a GM should listen to fans and media. I merely pointed out that not everybody agrees that they should wait 'til the "perfect" time and make mega-signings then. Why did that bother you?
In fact you didn't say any of that. I made the statement, and you ask the question "So Dubas should not have fired Backcock?" Which would imply he was fired because he listened to fans and journalist. So I'm not sure what the hell your talking about at this point.
 

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Forget about Strasburg (not that Jays were gonna sign him anyways):

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...om&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral

Another terrible signing. He'll probably terrible the last 3 years of that contract which is almost half the contract. Baseball attendance is on the decline, the young players are getting ripped off, some guys getting caught in limbo because of their age, while other guys are going to be getting 35 million a year because they signed when they were a bit younger and healthy despite the fact we know most likely they'll suck after age 34 or 35. They strike is coming after this year.
 

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Jays acquire RHP Tanner Roark, two years at $12M/yr. Is he our ace?...
No, but from past performance, he should be a solid innings eater.
 

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Jays acquire RHP Tanner Roark, two years at $12M/yr. Is he our ace?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/bl...4m-2-year-contract/ar-AAK2tui?ocid=spartanntp
Yes. Had a 4.35 ERA last year. Putting that into perspective, Sean Reid Foley had a 4.26 ERA during his time in the majors last year....and he's a good bet not to even make the team and be released (according to the baseball writers).

It is amazing what 12 Million gets you nowadays. Roark is kind of like Clay Buchholz, had some impressive years in the past and the Jays are hoping he can re-create that up here. I am more than skeptical.
 

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had some impressive years in the past and the Jays are hoping he can re-create that up here.
That seems to be the approach that they've taken ever since they took over. He is just another stop gap acquisition while they hope the core develops. That's why they only signed him for two years. This has nothing to do with building a winner, or even a competitive team. At $12M/yr, I wouldn't be surprised if he is their most expensive signing.
 

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As a comparable that (older) Blue Jays fans could reference, Roark is often compared to Jim Clancy (there's a name from the past!).
Consistent, average, healthy. Nothing special, but quite competent.
 

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Jays are reportedly pursuing Hyun-Jin Ryu and Moustakas
 
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