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Car damaged after overfilling gas tank

james t kirk

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While that is a common experience, it nowhere says on the pump that it will stop for any cause or reason, except when you cease to squeeze the handle. IF you haven't previously overfilled, or seen others do it, your life has been very sheltered. Your car, you were in control of the pump, and you failed in your task.

If you think there was damage, you'll need an expert mechanic's opinion — and a realistic estimate of the repair cost**— to make your case. Get something like that, and if you think it's convincing enough, take it to the the gas station's management and see if they think buying you off at the cash register will be cheaper than hiring a lawyer tell you to go ahead and sue.
They will never pay a dime to him.

The petroleum industry has lawyers ON STAFF. Lawsuit?

Take a number, the burden of proof is on him, and see you in 10 years.
 

stinkynuts

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I recall the Chevy Volt had a sealed, pressurized fuel tank to contain evaporation of gasoline. I also seem to recall that it negated the need for a charcoal cannister.
Yeah, I was just joking...


I actually drive a BMW 323i. It is super expensive to fix and mainatin, and that's my worry. Last time, my brakes cost me $1500. The last two times the check engine light when on, they cost $1200 and $2000 each.

From my research, definitely overfilling the fuel tank can cause damage to your car:


https://clark.com/cars/why-you-should-never-top-off-your-gas-tank/

Damage to the charcoal filter
“By topping your fuel tank off, it can either overwhelm your evaporative system and break something or cause a hazardous leak by the excess pressure in the system,” says Ed Nemphos, owner of Brentwood Automotive in Baltimore.

Topping off your gas tank can cause pressure to build in the tank and flood the carbon filter vapor collection system, only meant for vapor. Subsequently, this overflow can affect your car’s performance and could possibly damage the engine.

Why you should never 'top off' your gas tank

“When we overfill the tank, it sends all of the excessive fuel to the evaporation/charcoal canister and kills the life of that canister,” said Joel Carruso of Caruso’s Auto Repair in New York.

Carbon filter canisters cost anywhere from $200 to $1,500 — not to mention the cost of an entire engine!

My BMW is very finicky. If you don't close the gas cap until it clips, the check engine light will come on and the car will shake violently.


Yesterday, the car was shaking so bad it was undrivable. This morning I drove it around the block several times, and the car was much better. It was drivable, with only some rough idling. Before it would shake so violently that I was sure it would stall.

After doing some research, I came across many interesting stories:

-https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071219144725AAzRI3q
A young lady says the gas overflowed. There was as huge puddle, and when she warned the old cashier lady of the danger, the old lady was irritated and did nothing. The young woman feared that it could cause a fire and tried to warn others and even waited half an hour to let it evaporate, but nothing happened. I admit, I just left, and didn't think of the danger of the huge puddle of gasoline. I should have notified the attendant.

-A man is very angry that the gas pump overflowed. He demands a refund for the spilled fuel, and gas attendant agrees to refund 6L. Others in the forum say he should have also asked for a free car wash to clean off the gas.


-A man was sprayed in the face by overflowing gas. It entered his eyes and he had severe problems (he had previous eye surgery). The insurance adjuster notified him that the gas station had no liablity. https://www.injuryclaimcoach.com/questions/covered-with-gasoline-due-to-a-malfunctioning-pump.html


As pointed out by JT Kirk, the gas stations are too powerful and there is no way you can win. They have too much money and resources to fight, and you'll probably be wasting your time and money.

But I suspect that the gas stations don't immediately fix the problem even when they know they have a problem. They in fact profit because more gas is being bought (the one that spills out). Isn't this negiigence on their part? Overflow can lead to:

-severe medical trauma (gas in face, eyes)
-fire hazard which can lead to death, injury, destruction of property
-damage to vehicle


On a lighter note:
Woman tries to fill up an electric car at gas station

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6504379/Footage-woman-trying-electric-car-gas-station-nozzle-goes-viral.html
 

stinkynuts

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BMW... there is your problem.
exactly... Way too finicky and expensive and hard to repair. I took it to Canadian Tire once and the manager was disgusted and said he no longer accepted work on BMWs, told me to take it to a dealer.
 

HEYHEY

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Yeah, I was just joking...


I actually drive a BMW 323i. It is super expensive to fix and mainatin, and that's my worry. Last time, my brakes cost me $1500. The last two times the check engine light when on, they cost $1200 and $2000 each.

From my research, definitely overfilling the fuel tank can cause damage to your car:


https://clark.com/cars/why-you-should-never-top-off-your-gas-tank/




My BMW is very finicky. If you don't close the gas cap until it clips, the check engine light will come on and the car will shake violently.


Yesterday, the car was shaking so bad it was undrivable. This morning I drove it around the block several times, and the car was much better. It was drivable, with only some rough idling. Before it would shake so violently that I was sure it would stall.

After doing some research, I came across many interesting stories:

-https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071219144725AAzRI3q
A young lady says the gas overflowed. There was as huge puddle, and when she warned the old cashier lady of the danger, the old lady was irritated and did nothing. The young woman feared that it could cause a fire and tried to warn others and even waited half an hour to let it evaporate, but nothing happened. I admit, I just left, and didn't think of the danger of the huge puddle of gasoline. I should have notified the attendant.

-A man is very angry that the gas pump overflowed. He demands a refund for the spilled fuel, and gas attendant agrees to refund 6L. Others in the forum say he should have also asked for a free car wash to clean off the gas.


-A man was sprayed in the face by overflowing gas. It entered his eyes and he had severe problems (he had previous eye surgery). The insurance adjuster notified him that the gas station had no liablity. https://www.injuryclaimcoach.com/questions/covered-with-gasoline-due-to-a-malfunctioning-pump.html


As pointed out by JT Kirk, the gas stations are too powerful and there is no way you can win. They have too much money and resources to fight, and you'll probably be wasting your time and money.

But I suspect that the gas stations don't immediately fix the problem even when they know they have a problem. They in fact profit because more gas is being bought (the one that spills out). Isn't this negiigence on their part? Overflow can lead to:

-severe medical trauma (gas in face, eyes)
-fire hazard which can lead to death, injury, destruction of property
-damage to vehicle


On a lighter note:
Woman tries to fill up an electric car at gas station

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6504379/Footage-woman-trying-electric-car-gas-station-nozzle-goes-viral.html
You're a mechanics wet dream.
$1500 for brakes on a 3 series? Did they at least use lube when giving you the bill ?
 

SchlongConery

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You're a mechanics wet dream.
$1500 for brakes on a 3 series? Did they at least use lube when giving you the bill ?

You'd be surprised how expensive a brake job on a BMW is. The brakes last a long time but you are very lucky to get by without rotors as they are almost already too thin to be machined. And the seal kit for calipers is expensive. There are aftermarket parts but the BMW pads are worth the extra cost over the Chinese shit.

There are a few mechanics around the GTA that specialize in out of warranty BMW service.

There is a reason BMW's depreciate so quickly once they are more than 5 years/120km old, they become maintenance pigs.
 

james t kirk

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I've never changed brakes on a BMW. (Probably because I've never owned one.). Maybe there are special tools required. I hear BMW is bad for that. But generally speaking changing brakes is fairly straightforward and anyone who has some mechanical get up and go can do it.

$1500 for a brake job is definitely a rape.

I don't know about BMW, but I'm very familiar with North American and British classic iron and there are online parts suppliers who sell OEM parts for substantially less than the dealers. Same with the premium Japanese lines even.
 

james t kirk

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And unless you're 3'-6" tall, I'd really like to know how you spray gasoline in your eyes while tanking up.
 

Mr Bret

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One thing I'm curious about.
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in this interesting thread.

Was the pump in question the kind that can be left filling while unattended or was it the kind of pump that requires hand held grip pressure to fill the tank?
Most pumps in Ontario require you to be hands on while filling. I've encountered a few stations with the auto hold feature, but not many.
In the US, it's pretty much the opposite. Most can be unattended.
One of the posts is definitely from the US, so almost certainly an unattended filling.

IMHO, there's a huge difference as to who bears the responsibility for an overfill depending on the type of pump being used.
 

GameBoy27

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One thing I'm curious about.
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in this interesting thread.

Was the pump in question the kind that can be left filling while unattended or was it the kind of pump that requires hand held grip pressure to fill the tank?
Most pumps in Ontario require you to be hands on while filling. I've encountered a few stations with the auto hold feature, but not many.
In the US, it's pretty much the opposite. Most can be unattended.
One of the posts is definitely from the US, so almost certainly an unattended filling.

IMHO, there's a huge difference as to who bears the responsibility for an overfill depending on the type of pump being used.
A law came into effect many years ago whereby the lock had to be removed. That has since changed in Ontario and stations are allowed to install the locks once again. I don't think all stations have reinstalled them but I fill up at Shell and they have them. Nice feature, especially in the winter.
 

poorboy

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exactly... Way too finicky and expensive and hard to repair. I took it to Canadian Tire once and the manager was disgusted and said he no longer accepted work on BMWs, told me to take it to a dealer.
You must have got a lemon. BMW's are highly dependable precision engineered machines that don't cost much more than the average car to operate according to happ.
 

Goodoer

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GTA & Thereabouts...
$1500 for a brake job is definitely a rape.
I wouldn't go that far... I've had a nice/fast Honda easily cost me $1,500.00 for full brakes - paid for lots of times. Parts alone were expensive (sourced from multiple people including non-OEM). I even thought the Stealership price was reasonable considering the hassle... (and I can work on cars).
 

stinkynuts

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You must have got a lemon. BMW's are highly dependable precision engineered machines that don't cost much more than the average car to operate according to happ.
I read that too, that’s why I bought it. The e90 especially is supposed to be reliable, but I found out the preview owner never did any oil changes and the car was messed up.
 

poorboy

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I read that too, that’s why I bought it. The e90 especially is supposed to be reliable, but I found out the preview owner never did any oil changes and the car was messed up.
No, the cars are lemons. 20,000 MILES is not unusual for synthetic oil change intervals. None of the problems you have mentioned have anything to do with the engine oil system.

If you want a dependable car, buy a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry.
 

james t kirk

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I wouldn't go that far... I've had a nice/fast Honda easily cost me $1,500.00 for full brakes - paid for lots of times. Parts alone were expensive (sourced from multiple people including non-OEM). I even thought the Stealership price was reasonable considering the hassle... (and I can work on cars).
I had in my head it was 1500 for either the front or the rear, not both.

My bad
 
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