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Thread: Pelosi announces House won't vote now on whether to begin impeachment inquiry

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    Pelosi announces House won't vote now on whether to begin impeachment inquiry

    LOL Shit or get off the pot already...bunch of clowns

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced after meeting with the House Democratic caucus on Tuesday that there will be no vote -- at least for now -- on the launch of formal impeachment proceedings against President Trump.
    "There's no requirement that we have a vote, and so at this time we will not be having a vote," Pelosi said. "We're not here to call bluffs -- we're here to find the truth, to uphold the Constitution of the United States. This is not a game for us. This is deadly serious."

    The move was seemingly a boon for moderate Democrats in swing districts, who have been reluctant to have a formal vote in favor of the proceedings as the 2020 elections approach -- even as several of them have also sought to appease liberal constituents by vocally backing the ongoing inquiry.
    A congressional aide familiar with House Democrats' discussions told Fox News that many House Democrats did not want to be seen as letting the White House dictate how the House conducted itself. Last week, the White House sent a fiery letter to House Democrats announcing that it would not cooperate with their inquiry, for several reasons -- including that, contrary to past precedent, no formal vote had been held on whether to begin impeachment proceedings.

    Pelosi ripped those arguments: "They have no substance. They can't defend the president, so they're going to process," she said.
    In a head-turning moment, Pelosi told reporters, "All roads seem to lead to Putin with the president" -- even though Democrats began their probe because of the president's actions concerning Ukraine, not Russia.

    Pelosi last month unilaterally held a news conference announcing that impeachment proceedings were in progress. House rules do not require a vote to begin an impeachment inquiry, but it remains unclear whether the courts will agree that an impeachment inquiry has begun without such a vote. If courts do not find that a formal inquiry is in progress, they could curtail Democrats' evidence-gathering efforts.
    However, the House speaker heralded a series of recent court victories by Democrats, including a key win in the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals that reaffirmed congressional authority to subpoena several years of Trump's financial records from his accounting firm, Mazars.

    "The rulings that we won last week -- three of them were against the president's hateful public charge rule from taking effect," Pelosi said, referring to the administration's immigration policy. "A ruling against the president's sham national emergency declaration to build his wasteful border wall. A ruling in the Mazars case led by [House Oversight Committee] Chairman [Elijah] Cummings. ... so again, five victories on Friday, one today, in terms of Emoluments."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pel...chment-inquiry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaibetter View Post
    LOL Shit or get off the pot already...bunch of clowns

    Simpleton thinking ^^^.


    Has it occurred to you that these committees might already have more information than you Mr Internet Forum expert?

    And that they might be still discovering evidence, hearing from witnesses etc so that they can make an informed decision?

    Maybe there will be no evidence and they will have a "Nothing Burger". In which case, your Demagogue and followers will gloat into a landslide re-election and eternal Trump Presidency!

    Or maybe they are assembling overwhelming evidence of corruption and are going to ensure that even blind zealots will be convinced that he is unfit to be President?


    Time will tell...
    "Stupidity has a certain charm. Ignorance, not so much.

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    They donít need to have a vote...so they wonít.

    Deal with it, Bedwetter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smallcock View Post
    Who do you work for? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Mossad? I bet the whole story about the Lizard people and their tentacles was merely a distraction, or more accurately, an abstraction from the real game you're playing.

    I'm onto you. Your lies are old but you tell them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchlongConery View Post
    And that they might be still discovering evidence, hearing from witnesses etc so that they can make an informed decision?
    So why are House Dems selectively leaking information from the closed-door committee hearings?

    It's all kind of surreal. If shedding sunlight on these hearings is a bad thing, then something is wrong in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Ball View Post
    They don’t need to have a vote...so they won’t.

    Deal with it, Bedwetter.
    LOL Conway posts always insignificant one liners He posted them also under LT56 until he got banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchlongConery View Post
    Simpleton thinking ^^^.


    Has it occurred to you that these committees might already have more information than you Mr Internet Forum expert?

    And that they might be still discovering evidence, hearing from witnesses etc so that they can make an informed decision?

    Maybe there will be no evidence and they will have a "Nothing Burger". In which case, your Demagogue and followers will gloat into a landslide re-election and eternal Trump Presidency!

    Or maybe they are assembling overwhelming evidence of corruption and are going to ensure that even blind zealots will be convinced that he is unfit to be President?


    Time will tell...
    They're just dragging this one, to harass Trump. They did the same with the Muller story and they're doing it now. They'll get huge blowback from this BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchlongConery View Post
    Simpleton thinking ^^^.


    Has it occurred to you that these committees might already have more information than you Mr Internet Forum expert?

    And that they might be still discovering evidence, hearing from witnesses etc so that they can make an informed decision?

    Maybe there will be no evidence and they will have a "Nothing Burger". In which case, your Demagogue and followers will gloat into a landslide re-election and eternal Trump Presidency!

    Or maybe they are assembling overwhelming evidence of corruption and are going to ensure that even blind zealots will be convinced that he is unfit to be President?


    Time will tell...
    Thatís a lot of maybeís...
    Maybe they have nothing and donít want to look like an unsuccessful lynch mob...again?

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    We have a case- say Schiff and Pelosi
    Ok-say Trump and Republicans- call the vote in the House
    Not necessary- they answer- we're defending the Constitution.
    But the Constitution says that the House has the power, not the Speaker
    Oh, never mind- says Pelosi.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaibetter View Post
    They're just dragging this one, to harass Trump. They did the same with the Muller story and they're doing it now. They'll get huge blowback from this BS.

    Ohhhhh, you are so much smarterest than them.


    As I said...Simpleton thinking.
    "Stupidity has a certain charm. Ignorance, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    We have a case- say Schiff and Pelosi
    Ok-say Trump and Republicans- call the vote in the House
    Not necessary- they answer- we're defending the Constitution.
    But the Constitution says that the House has the power, not the Speaker
    Oh, never mind- says Pelosi.


    Ohhhhh, you are also so much smarterest than them. To think you have such insight without knowing what evidence they have heard behind closed doors!


    As I said...Simpleton thinking.
    "Stupidity has a certain charm. Ignorance, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boober69 View Post
    That’s a lot of maybe’s...
    Maybe they have nothing and don’t want to look like an unsuccessful lynch mob...again?

    We are wise enough to say maybe.

    Time will tell... If your boy is as clean and virtuous as you so strongly (want to) believe, he has nothing to worry about.
    "Stupidity has a certain charm. Ignorance, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    We have a case- say Schiff and Pelosi
    Ok-say Trump and Republicans- call the vote in the House
    Not necessary- they answer- we're defending the Constitution.
    But the Constitution says that the House has the power, not the Speaker
    Oh, never mind- says Pelosi.
    There is no rule that they have to have a vote and there is fuck all Republicans can do about it. These criminals don’t get to set the terms of their own investigation...not to mention the obvious hypocrisy of trump’s lawless administration’s sudden concern about “rules” being adhered to...lmao.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smallcock View Post
    Who do you work for? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Mossad? I bet the whole story about the Lizard people and their tentacles was merely a distraction, or more accurately, an abstraction from the real game you're playing.

    I'm onto you. Your lies are old but you tell them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Ball View Post
    There is no rule that they have to have a vote .
    Game


    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Ball View Post
    and there is fuck all Republicans can do about it. .
    Set


    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Ball View Post
    These criminals donít get to set the terms of their own investigation...not to mention the obvious hypocrisy of trumpís lawless administrationís sudden concern about ďrulesĒ being adhered to...lmao.
    Match!


    "Stupidity has a certain charm. Ignorance, not so much.

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    They are not having the vote because Pelosi is trying to protect the Democrats in districts Trump won. she doesn't want these house members to have to vote against Trump, That's the only reason, in the 2 other cases of impeachment the house voted, they don't have to so it's a smart move by her to protect theses members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    But the Constitution says that the House has the power, not the Speaker
    That's a great way to put it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp View Post
    That's a great way to put it.
    Yet another way to put the same point is the people have the power. Everything about how Pelosi and the Dems are proceeding is sending the message that they believe that only the views of those in power in Washington matter. That's the inevitable takeaway of refusing to take a vote in the house, or holding interviews of witnesses in private, or refusing to hear witnesses proposed by both sides, or not allowing the elected President to cross examine adverse witnesses. That (swampy) message has never played out well in American elections (thus far).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchlongConery View Post
    Ohhhhh, you are also so much smarterest than them. To think you have such insight without knowing what evidence they have heard behind closed doors!


    As I said...Simpleton thinking.
    Impeachment is a political process above all. You cannot conduct it behind closed doors. How naive are you to think that this actually has any chance of success? The only reason the Dems are trying to do this in secret is because they know that they don't have a case. If they did, the case would already be in the Senate.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchlongConery View Post
    Ohhhhh, you are so much smarterest than them.


    As I said...Simpleton thinking.
    Quote Originally Posted by SchlongConery View Post
    Ohhhhh, you are also so much smarterest than them. To think you have such insight without knowing what evidence they have heard behind closed doors!


    As I said...Simpleton thinking.

    People are free to voice they're opinions but when you insult people that voice an opinion different than yours, then you're just who you accuse the others of being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Oven View Post
    Yet another way to put the same point is the people have the power. Everything about how Pelosi and the Dems are proceeding is sending the message that they believe that only the views of those in power in Washington matter. That's the inevitable takeaway of refusing to take a vote in the house, or holding interviews of witnesses in private, or refusing to hear witnesses proposed by both sides, or not allowing the elected President to cross examine adverse witnesses. That (swampy) message has never played out well in American elections (thus far).
    The gop can call and cross-examine witnesses during a trial in the Senate. The House is doing an investigation- criminals don’t get to determine who is allowed to investigate them, who will be interviewed, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smallcock View Post
    Who do you work for? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Mossad? I bet the whole story about the Lizard people and their tentacles was merely a distraction, or more accurately, an abstraction from the real game you're playing.

    I'm onto you. Your lies are old but you tell them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Ball View Post
    The House is doing an investigation- criminals don’t get to determine who is allowed to investigate them, who will be interviewed, etc.
    The house is investigating. If they feel there is enough evidence, they will vote. If that fails, its over, if it succeeds, it goes to the senate where there will be a trial and further vote.
    This is miles away from using words like criminals.

    Everyone is innocent until proven otherwise through due process.

    Can you imagine if the police could just walk into homes looking for evidence of a crime? This isn't far off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    Impeachment is a political process above all. You cannot conduct it behind closed doors. How naive are you to think that this actually has any chance of success? The only reason the Dems are trying to do this in secret is because they know that they don't have a case. If they did, the case would already be in the Senate.
    Don't worry, it'll become much more public soon enough.
    Of course there is already enough evidence public to support Trump being impeached.

    The fun is seeing how deep Trump went with Giuliani and his crack team of investigators.
    Another one was arrested today, by the way.
    At least he turned himself in.
    Donít be a tough guy. Donít be a fool! I will call you later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathleen View Post
    Can you imagine if the police could just walk into homes looking for evidence of a crime? This isn't far off.
    Its very far off.

    First we had a whistleblower that the DOJ tried to bury, but it came out anyways.
    Then Trump released the phone conversation summary that confirmed the quid pro quo and his impeachment.

    So its more like Trump's team called foul and Trump opened the door a crack and said 'yes, I did do it, but its ok 'cuz I'm the president so therefore everything I do is legal'.
    Donít be a tough guy. Donít be a fool! I will call you later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knuckle Ball View Post
    The gop can call and cross-examine witnesses during a trial in the Senate. The House is doing an investigation- criminals don’t get to determine who is allowed to investigate them, who will be interviewed, etc.
    I understand it's hard to post on political forums and step back from what you hold to be true. Simple rules of fairness would tell us House Republicans should be allowed to call witnesses. It's also a bit rich to say these proceedings need to be held in secrecy. Let's put aside the leaking coming from the House Dems that clearly isn't meant to provide an objective account of the testimony. But, secrecy? Seriously??

    These institutions are suppose to have continuing legacies for our democracy. We've survived bad Presidents, jerky Presidents, what have you. We'll survive Trump's Presidency too.

    The House might be irreparably harmed. All because half the country was determined to try to remove a President they detest. Pelosi and Schiff have unleashed a scourge on our country that we will all soon live to regret. All for a couple percentage points in a national poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaibetter View Post
    LOL Shit or get off the pot already...bunch of clowns...
    I agree with you; it has to be done before the election campaign kicks off. They have more than enough information and its better to go after the guy before the election rather than give him the chance to get reelected and stick us with President Pence.

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