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shack

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I'm sure you think George Bush is great guy as well.....
I have no idea where that is coming from but since you bring it up, compared to trump, Bush IS a great guy.

And compared to trump, Bolton who was not afraid to challenge trump, is also a great guy and if he exposes trump's nefarious and/or stupid dealings and help bring about his demise can be looked at as somewhat heroic (to your amazement again, I assume).
 

Butler1000

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I have no idea where that is coming from but since you bring it up, compared to trump, Bush IS a great guy.

And compared to trump, Bolton who was not afraid to challenge trump, is also a great guy and if he exposes trump's nefarious and/or stupid dealings and help bring about his demise can be looked at as somewhat heroic (to your amazement again, I assume).
Nice. So you fully support the Iraq war and its aftermath. Btgat was based on a lie....

One lie. But the biggest one of the 21st century.
 

Butler1000

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Dunning Kruger Effect prevents you from realizing that you make terrible, and fallacious, arguments.

Spend some time reading these and see how many others would recognize in this, and previous posts of yours.


http://www.softschools.com/examples/fallacies/
Bullshit. The Iraq war is not an intellectual exercise. It was a war crime. Pure and simple. It was based on a lie, killed and wounded Millions, precipitated Syria which resulted in the largest migrant crisis since WW2, condoned torture(illegally) and cost trillions in wasted money that could have been used to better the lot of working Americans.

To say anything else makes you either naive or a Neo Liberal.

Enjoy your choice.
 

Butler1000

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So typical. Trying to hijack the thread when your initial wild accusations prove indefensible. Then you carry on and on and on and on and on. Almost non-stop. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands posting day and night on so many threads. Wow!
He lionized John Bolton. His policies are the policies of perpetual war.

He is not a credible opinion.
 

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Bullshit. The Iraq war is not an intellectual exercise. It was a war crime. Pure and simple. It was based on a lie, killed and wounded Millions, precipitated Syria which resulted in the largest migrant crisis since WW2, condoned torture(illegally) and cost trillions in wasted money that could have been used to better the lot of working Americans.

To say anything else makes you either naive or a Neo Liberal.

Enjoy your choice.
Nice. So you fully support the Iraq war and its aftermath. Btgat was based on a lie....

One lie. But the biggest one of the 21st century.
He lionized John Bolton. His policies are the policies of perpetual war.

He is not a credible opinion.
What does all of the above have to do with Fiona Hill connecting the Bidens to corruption?

Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
 

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Bullshit. The Iraq war is not an intellectual exercise. It was a war crime. Pure and simple. It was based on a lie, killed and wounded Millions, precipitated Syria which resulted in the largest migrant crisis since WW2, condoned torture(illegally) and cost trillions in wasted money that could have been used to better the lot of working Americans.

To say anything else makes you either naive or a Neo Liberal.

Enjoy your choice.


I agree the west's Iraq war (and everything else in the Middle East) was and remains bullshit.


Your false dichotomy's (and your other feeble minded Dunning Kruger ADD Squirrel fallacious arguments) have nothing to do with Fiona Hill, your Hero Trump's political extortion, nor trying to legitimize his extortion to dig up or create shit on Biden.. None of them had anything to do with Iraq.


What does all of the above have to do with Fiona Hill connecting the Bidens to corruption?

Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.
 

Butler1000

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I agree the west's Iraq war (and everything else in the Middle East) was and remains bullshit.


Your false dichotomy's (and your other feeble minded Dunning Kruger ADD Squirrel fallacious arguments) have nothing to do with Fiona Hill, your Hero Trump's political extortion, nor trying to legitimize his extortion to dig up or create shit on Biden.. None of them had anything to do with Iraq.
He brought up Bolton. Bolton's some purpose in life is to deal arms and start wars.

His being in Ukraine immediately sets off alarm bells.

Notice the minute he messes with an arms deal the impeachment talk Ramps. But not a peep over Saudi deals.
 

shack

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Nice. So you fully support the Iraq war and its aftermath. Btgat was based on a lie....

One lie. But the biggest one of the 21st century.
I support diplomats not doing illegal campaign work for trump. That is the topic. Try to focus.
 

Butler1000

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I support diplomats not doing illegal campaign work for trump. That is the topic. Try to focus.
Considering many of them get their jobs in ALL administrations as rewards for campaign work good luck with that.

It's always a part of the equation. Another aspect of the swamp that The Trump presidency has clumsily brought to light.
 

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Considering many of them get their jobs in ALL administrations as rewards for campaign work good luck with that.

It's always a part of the equation. Another aspect of the swamp that The Trump presidency has clumsily brought to light.
How much did Sondland contribute to trump before getting his job? Swamp indeed.
 

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How much did Sondland contribute to trump before getting his job? Swamp indeed.
One million to his inaugural committee.

It was that easy, and has been happening for a long time before Trump came along.

It's only because he is in the other swamp dwellers are too stupid to see they aren't just exposing an aberation but their own malfeasance.
 

shack

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One million to his inaugural committee.

It was that easy, and has been happening for a long time before Trump came along.
So that means he was worthy of his appointment? It was "hiring only the best"? Remember your leader said he was hiring the best. Another broken promise another lie. Why are you TDSers so proud of him? It defies logic.
 

Butler1000

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So that means he was worthy of his appointment? It was "hiring only the best"? Remember your leader said he was hiring the best. Another broken promise another lie. Why are you TDSers so proud of him? It defies logic.
Lol. No he wasn't. But Trump didn't do anything new. He rewarded a donor with an appointed position.

That's common in Washington. You are complaining about a long standing practice by Washington elites as if it's a new thing.

It isn't. That's why it's a non issue. They can't impeach him for this. It's legal and Normal.

Support Sanders and you will see it change. Go look at his platform. It makes it illegal. And he is the only one who intends to do it.

In the meantime it's just another day in the swamp. Another revelation about how the swamp works.

Yawn.
 

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Zelensky was elected on April 21, 2019. Trump called to congratulate him not long after he won. The ostensible reason for the July 25 call was congratulatory. But Fiona Hill objected, saying another congratulatory call was unnecessary. So it's crystal clear that the July 25 call was a shakedown call. It was not a random call. All the dirty work done by Rudy Giuliani and the "three amigos" (Mick Mulvany, Rick Perry and Gordon Sondland), as they called themselves, culminated in Trump calling Zelensky to close the deal on investigating the Bidens.

If the Democrats had not won the House in 2018, the Republican toadies would have swept all this malfeasance under the rug.
If Biden was not running to be the Democratic nominee, would there have been anything wrong in Trump seeking the help of Ukraine to investigate the activity of the Bidens and what possible connection there could be between their activity and the involvement of the Ukraine in the 2016 election?
 

Butler1000

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Biden himself campaigned against corruption in the Ukraine when he was VP. So it would not have been out of place for Trump to ask for investigation of an individual suspected of corruption. But when the only person in the world whose supposed corruption concerns Trump is his potential political opponent, the real motive is a hit job.

There was no Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election. None. Robert Muller produced incontrovertible evidence to show Russian involvement in the 2016 election. It was the greatest counter intelligence operation of all time, conducted with not much expenditure.
He campaigned so hard they entrusted his crackhead son with a board position........

Which he was unqualified to hold. And his son has admitted he wouldn't have gotten without his name.
 
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