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Trump mystifies the world with nonsensical complaints about Kurds in Iraq

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October 13, 2019

Trump mystifies the world with nonsensical complaints about Kurds in Iraq

OCTOBER 13, 2019

Facing serious opposition for the first time within his own party, Donald Trump spent part of his daily morning Twitter tirade defending his betrayal of America’s Kurdish allies in the Middle East as Republican senators continued to criticize his decision to withdraw the U.S. troops providing a barrier between the Turks and the invading Turkish forces in northern Syria.

Trump’s defense took the form of a reductive history lesson on Kurdish-Turkey relations — as if the complex geopolitical situation could be explained within the character limit of a couple of tweets — from the point of view of an isolationist “America First” perspective.

Donald J. Trump

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Do you remember two years ago when Iraq was going to fight the Kurds in a different part of Syria. Many people wanted us to fight with the Kurds against Iraq, who we just fought for. I said no, and the Kurds left the fight, twice. Now the same thing is happening with Turkey......

Donald J. Trump

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.....The Kurds and Turkey have been fighting for many years. Turkey considers the PKK the worst terrorists of all. Others may want to come in and fight for one side or the other. Let them! We are monitoring the situation closely. Endless Wars!

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The president’s comments walked a fine line in its attempts to paint his abandonment of the Kurds as anything but a capitulation to Turkey — and, by extension, Russia and Iran.

He says that Turkey considers the Kurdish PKK party to be terrorists without specifically agreeing with that characterization — a designation which would further alienate the Republican senators who have broken ranks and condemned his cowardly betrayal of our long-term allies and whom he will need on his side if and when an impeachment trial reaches the Senate.

Belying his attempts to portray himself as a peacemaker by withdrawing American forces from the region, Trump demonstrates that he couldn’t give a rodent’s rectum about what happens to the civilians on the ground in the Kurdish-occupied sections of Syria — which are now under attack by genocidal Turkish forces and their atrocity-committing allies — by practically calling for an armed free-for-all by inviting others to chose sides and join in the battle to which he’s given his blessing.

He then attempts to undercut the brutality of that statement by adding the supposedly reassuring reminder that “We are monitoring the situation closely,” as if that would mollify his rebellious GOP brethren who have retained a shred of concern for our Kurdish allies and America’s global reputation.

In this context, “Endless Wars!” — the line he uses to close his tweet, so empty and contradictory that it amounts to a load of gibberish — could be interpreted as either a lament or an exhortation with little to indicate which of those two readings he actually intends.

Trump followed up with a tweet where he acts as if he is a commentator on the sidelines reciting the latest news rather than the man who created the international crisis to begin with.

Donald J. Trump

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Dealing with @LindseyGrahamSC and many members of Congress, including Democrats, about imposing powerful Sanctions on Turkey. Treasury is ready to go, additional legislation may be sought. There is great consensus on this. Turkey has asked that it not be done. Stay tuned!

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He discusses the move to sanction Turkey for the moves that Trump tacitly approved in his conversation with Turkish President Recep Erdoğan last week and betrays his view of foreign policy as nothing more than an extension of his experience as a reality show host with his glib comment to “Stay tuned.”

As if we had a choice.

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This is what happens when a corrupt, ignorant clown is in charge! I always had a feeling people might die unnecessarily because of Trump's stupidity or corruption. The clown president still has Erodgan planned for a white house visit, Hell Trump might as well invite Putin as well.
 

mandrill

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This is what happens when a corrupt ignorant clown is in charge! I always had a feeling people might die unnecessarily because of Trump's stupidity or corruption. The clown president still has Erodgan planned for a white house visit, Hell Trump might as well invite Putin as well.
Sure. He could make it a spit roast between two of his favourite stud dictators!
 

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Where are Terb's Trumpist rightwingers now? Surely they must be searching for a justification of Trump's betrayal of the Kurds, the genocidal Turkish attacks, the ensuing refugees and the coming re-birth of Isis.
 

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I'm not sure what his thinking was here, maybe he made a deal with Turkey that he can be exiled there.
 

wigglee

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British writer Nate White on Trump...."He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
‘My God… what… have… I… created?
If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
 

nottyboi

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Actually this is one of the more correct decisions by Trump. Most of the Kurds in that area are not Syrian Kurds and have opportunisticly taken the land to try and form Kurdistan. That area is primarily made up of Turkmen and Turkomen who are ethincially Turkish and form a buffer for Turkey against PKK operations. Yeah "blood on his hands" every US President has blood on his hands, buckets of blood. Allow this Kurdish nation to stand and you open the door to endless attacks in Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran. So overall a 100% correct decision by the Trumpster in this very rare case.
 

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Actually this is one of the more correct decisions by Trump. Most of the Kurds in that area are not Syrian Kurds and have opportunisticly taken the land to try and form Kurdistan. That area is primarily made up of Turkmen and Turkomen who are ethincially Turkish and form a buffer for Turkey against PKK operations. Yeah "blood on his hands" every US President has blood on his hands, buckets of blood. Allow this Kurdish nation to stand and you open the door to endless attacks in Syria, Turkey, Iraq and Iran. So overall a 100% correct decision by the Trumpster in this very rare case.
20% of Turkey's population are Kurdish.
Erdogan is scared of an uprising so is trying to wall them off from Turkey, but there is nowhere for them to go.
The US just told the rest of the world that being an ally is of no value, all agreements are void.
Turkey and Russia were just handed Syria, and its likely the Kurds will start fighting again or join the millions of Syrian refugees flooding the world.
 

nottyboi

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20% of Turkey's population are Kurdish.
Erdogan is scared of an uprising so is trying to wall them off from Turkey, but there is nowhere for them to go.
The US just told the rest of the world that being an ally is of no value, all agreements are void.
Turkey and Russia were just handed Syria, and its likely the Kurds will start fighting again or join the millions of Syrian refugees flooding the world.
Syria was never Americas to take. Its not Turkeys either. The Turkish Kurds should stay in Turkey. Once peace is established in Syria, many will return. Being a US ally was never anything someone shold count on. Saddam was a US ally at one point, they hanged him. Assad was a US ally they tried really hard to kill him. The US does not have friends, it has interests. And only interest define their actions and alligences.

Russia will have a long term presence in Syria as it always has. But generally they won't interfere too much.
 
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