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Sentenced to 10 days for missing jury duty AND being black

icespot

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Being black had nothing to do with it.

There are two civic duties every true citizen most always cherish.

Voting and Jury duty.

Minorities don't get proper representation in Government if they don't vote, and they get no justice if minorities are not part of the jury pool.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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If it makes you feel any better a white guy was sentenced to 83 days in jail back in 2009 for missing jury duty as well: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30661139/ns/us_news-weird_news/t/texas-man-jailed-days-skipping-jury-duty/

Stop seeing racism everywhere, derrick.
You and Charlamagne are the worst for this, everything is about race with you two
 

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https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/not-showing-up-for-jury-duty.html

Not Showing Up for Jury Duty

A jury duty notice is rarely received with great enthusiasm. It can feel like a burden, requiring time away from work and interrupting your routine. However, jury duty is really your opportunity to oversee the work of the judicial branch. In addition to ruling on the facts of a case, your job is to evaluate the judge, prosecutors, attorneys, and the court system itself.

When jury service causes a hardship, such as interference with childcare responsibilities, you can be excused by following the court prescribed process. Simply not showing up for jury duty is a not a good idea, and may result in serious penalties.

Penalties for Skipping Jury Service

Jurors not showing up for jury duty is a big problem that’s burdening our judicial system. In some California counties, for example, the jury duty no-shows rate is more than 30 percent, according to a 2015 report. Judges are cracking down on people who skip out of jury service with a court-authorized excuse. Penalties are set by state or federal law.

State Court Jury Duty

Ignore a jury duty summons and the court may receive a Failure to Appear Notice, Delinquency Notice, or a Notice of Hearing on an Application for Criminal Complaint. If there's no valid excuse for your failure to appear, you could face the following:

A warrant for your arrest;
Fines;
Days in jail; and/or
A civil contempt or misdemeanor conviction on your record.
Federal Court Jury Duty

There are two types of juries serving different functions in the federal system: trial juries and grand juries. If you fail to report for jury duty and are not excused by the court, you may be served with an Order To Show Cause by the U.S. Marshal Service. You must appear before a U.S. Magistrate Judge to explain why you should not be held in contempt of the Jury Service and Selection Act.

Contempt penalties include:

Fines up to $1,000;
Not more than three days in prison; and/or
Order to perform community service.
Lying about Jury Service Excuse

Lying to the court is a crime. It’s easy to believe that telling a little lie to get out of jury duty is no big deal. However, if you're caught, the government can prosecute you for perjury. In some instances, perjury is a felony and you can end up in prison for up to five years for committing it. Although it’s unlikely you would be prosecuted, you could receive a five-day sentence and a fine of $1,000.

If you're caught lying, it’s more common to be held in contempt. Unlike perjury, you don't have to be convicted to be punished for contempt. The moment the judge holds you in contempt, you go directly to jail.
 

derrick76

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Being black had nothing to do with it.
You better go watch the video of the reason the judge gave for handing down the punishment! He cited the kid being the only black person on the jury as if that should matter. Why did the judge draw attention to his race?

Maybe you can explain.
 

derrick76

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If it makes you feel any better a white guy was sentenced to 83 days in jail back in 2009 for missing jury duty as well: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30661139/ns/us_news-weird_news/t/texas-man-jailed-days-skipping-jury-duty/

Stop seeing racism everywhere, derrick.
You and Charlamagne are the worst for this, everything is about race with you two
I posted that link only just to see if the usual suspects would run their mouths. There is more information on this case. That case you cite about a 6 year old warrant for a guy who was arrested while breaking another law is irrelevant to this case of a guy with no record, who owned up to his mistake in less than 6 years.

Besides that, the cases are different. One was arrested on a warrant, then fell through the cracks while having no money to get out. The other was sentenced.

Stop seeing race? Tell that to the judge who drew attention to it when 'explaining' the punishment.

Skip to 2:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQ-xlDz9ks

Thanks for stopping by!
 

The Oracle

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You better go watch the video of the reason the judge gave for handing down the punishment! He cited the kid being the only black person on the jury as if that should matter. Why did the judge draw attention to his race?

Maybe you can explain.
I watched the video in your link twice not once does the judge cite the kid as being the only black person on the jury. It's never mentioned.

Even the kid admits he learned a valuable lesson.

For the record I think the punishment was to extreme. Some community service would have sufficed.
 

derrick76

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I watched the video in your link twice not once does the judge cite the kid as being the only black person on the jury. It's never mentioned.

Even the kid admits he learned a valuable lesson.

For the record I think the punishment was to extreme. Some community service would have sufficed.
Don't be naive. He has to act broken for the cameras...especially if that probation from his sentence is still intact. We all know what the real valuable lesson he himself knows he learned. That is - puss and dawg doh have di same luck.

And which link did you watch? There's more than one, and it's not in the first one. That was part of the 'set up'.
 

rhuarc29

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I watched the video in your link twice not once does the judge cite the kid as being the only black person on the jury. It's never mentioned.

Even the kid admits he learned a valuable lesson.

For the record I think the punishment was to extreme. Some community service would have sufficed.
Don't mind derrick. He's shown time and time again he can't be objective when it comes to matters of race. I swear over half his posts are either addressing matters of race, or him injecting race into matters that have nothing to do with race.
 

derrick76

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Don't mind derrick. He's shown time and time again he can't be objective when it comes to matters of race. I swear over half his posts are either addressing matters of race, or him injecting race into matters that have nothing to do with race.
Since you're running your mouth, please tell us why the judge felt the need to draw attention to the guy's ethnicity/race when explaining his decision. Please do tell us all why this had nothing to do with race.

We're all ears. Don't be long, now.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I posted that link only just to see if the usual suspects would run their mouths. There is more information on this case. That case you cite about a 6 year old warrant for a guy who was arrested while breaking another law is irrelevant to this case of a guy with no record, who owned up to his mistake in less than 6 years.

Besides that, the cases are different. One was arrested on a warrant, then fell through the cracks while having no money to get out. The other was sentenced.

Stop seeing race? Tell that to the judge who drew attention to it when 'explaining' the punishment.

Skip to 2:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQ-xlDz9ks
You completely missed the point, derrick. I just watched that video, what the judge is trying to say is the trial needed a black person on the jury so that there would be an important racial cross-section on the jury (READ: more than one different race) in order for the defendant to get a fair trial.

Think of it like this, if the OJ Simpson jury had been all white and OJ had been found guilty, the black community would scream racism. But OTOH if the OJ Simpson jury had been all black and OJ had been found not guilty, the white community would scream that OJ got away with murder. This is why its important to get as many different races and genders on a jury in order for a trial to be fair.

Now do you understand??
 

rhuarc29

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Since you're running your mouth, please tell us why the judge felt the need to draw attention to the guy's ethnicity/race when explaining his decision. Please do tell us all why this had nothing to do with race.

We're all ears. Don't be long, now.
In the English language we usually must read the entire sentence in order to comprehend what the author is saying. Give that a try, rather than cherry picking like you normally do.
 

derrick76

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In the English language we usually must read the entire sentence in order to comprehend what the author is saying. Give that a try, rather than cherry picking like you normally do.
The weakest of retorts! I gave you days to formulate a response and in your lazy rush to respond, you didn't engage your critical thinking skills. One more chance, tell us WHY you think the judge saw it fit to mention the guy's race when explaining his decision/punishment (the harshness of it). Please do! Break it down for us. Why inject race? Why not explain the punishment SANS the race factor??

The floor is yours!
 

derrick76

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You completely missed the point, derrick. I just watched that video, what the judge is trying to say is the trial needed a black person on the jury so that there would be an important racial cross-section on the jury (READ: more than one different race) in order for the defendant to get a fair trial.

Think of it like this, if the OJ Simpson jury had been all white and OJ had been found guilty, the black community would scream racism. But OTOH if the OJ Simpson jury had been all black and OJ had been found not guilty, the white community would scream that OJ got away with murder. This is why its important to get as many different races and genders on a jury in order for a trial to be fair.

Now do you understand??
ONE black person would make a difference? You poor soul.

But I see it is YOU who didn't understand. The judge expressed his disdain for the guy missing court while injecting his race. How dare this _______ not respect...

Why would he INCREASE the punishment because the one black dude who was to be there let him (the judge) down? You think he threw the book at him because he let the judge and society down? I'm dying with laughter here. So if he had not been the lone black person, the punishment would be less? Is that it? So race was a factor after all...correct?

This goes back to what has been expressed ad nauseam. That is, black people get harsher sentences than others ceteris paribus. If you think some of these judges don't hesitate in staining black people's records while sparing the records of others in the same exact situations or even worse, then you are in denial! Imagine a rapist got spared by a judge so that his future wouldn't be adversely affected. Yeah, it happened in Idaho.

Think on these things...then tell me if YOU now understand.!
 

mellowjello

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ONE black person would make a difference? You poor soul.

But I see it is YOU who didn't understand. The judge expressed his disdain for the guy missing court while injecting his race. How dare this _______ not respect...

Why would he INCREASE the punishment because the one black dude who was to be there let him (the judge) down? You think he threw the book at him because he let the judge and society down? I'm dying with laughter here. So if he had not been the lone black person, the punishment would be less? Is that it? So race was a factor after all...correct?

This goes back to what has been expressed ad nauseam. That is, black people get harsher sentences than others ceteris paribus. If you think some of these judges don't hesitate in staining black people's records while sparing the records of others in the same exact situations or even worse, then you are in denial! Imagine a rapist got spared by a judge so that his future wouldn't be adversely affected. Yeah, it happened in Idaho.

Think on these things...then tell me if YOU now understand.!
What do you mean when you say the punishment was increased?
What's the usual punishment for something like this?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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ONE black person would make a difference? You poor soul.

But I see it is YOU who didn't understand. The judge expressed his disdain for the guy missing court while injecting his race. How dare this _______ not respect...

Why would he INCREASE the punishment because the one black dude who was to be there let him (the judge) down? You think he threw the book at him because he let the judge and society down? I'm dying with laughter here. So if he had not been the lone black person, the punishment would be less? Is that it? So race was a factor after all...correct?

This goes back to what has been expressed ad nauseam. That is, black people get harsher sentences than others ceteris paribus. If you think some of these judges don't hesitate in staining black people's records while sparing the records of others in the same exact situations or even worse, then you are in denial! Imagine a rapist got spared by a judge so that his future wouldn't be adversely affected. Yeah, it happened in Idaho.

Think on these things...then tell me if YOU now understand.!
Yes one black person can make a difference. Remember when the judge said he "represented a very important cross-section of our community"??
This is what he was talking about: https://ilr.law.uiowa.edu/print/vol...scovery-and-the-fair-cross-section-guarantee/

Every criminal defendant has the right to a jury selected from a “fair cross-section” of the community—a pool of people reflecting the community’s racial and ethnic makeup. Yet substantial evidence suggests that jury pools across the country often do not represent a fair cross-section of communities. As a result, criminal defendants—who are disproportionately African-American and Latino—may routinely face juries that are disproportionately white.

These disproportionately white juries are inconsistent with constitutional requirements for the proper operation of juries. They are inconsistent with social science data on the actual operation of juries. And racially underrepresentative juries are inconsistent with the laws of all 50 states that guarantee criminal defendants a jury selected from a fair cross-section of the community
 

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I posted that link only just to see if the usual suspects would run their mouths. There is more information on this case. That case you cite about a 6 year old warrant for a guy who was arrested while breaking another law is irrelevant to this case of a guy with no record, who owned up to his mistake in less than 6 years.

Besides that, the cases are different. One was arrested on a warrant, then fell through the cracks while having no money to get out. The other was sentenced.

Stop seeing race? Tell that to the judge who drew attention to it when 'explaining' the punishment.

Skip to 2:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBQ-xlDz9ks

Thanks for stopping by!
Maybe if you stop trying to act like a dick and give all the info the first time, you may have a better discussion with people about it.

You purposely mislead people with half the story just to catch them up in something you set up.

I know I know, cops do it to blacks people all the time so you can equally be an ass and do the same to white people. We get it.

Moving on now ....
 

derrick76

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What do you mean when you say the punishment was increased?
What's the usual punishment for something like this?
Not anything giving you a record for the rest of your life. All the experts said as much. If it weren't for the attention this got, the judge would NOT have climbed down and reverse the staining of this chap's record!
 

derrick76

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Maybe if you stop trying to act like a dick and give all the info the first time, you may have a better discussion with people about it.

You purposely mislead people with half the story just to catch them up in something you set up.

I know I know, cops do it to blacks people all the time so you can equally be an ass and do the same to white people. We get it.

Moving on now ....
Take your own advice. You are upset that people made proclamations without knowing the whole story? Why aren't you up in arms about that, pray tell?

BTW, don't you have some Nazis to go cape for? Oh wait, you might be doing it again here!

I see you're still butt hurt about being called out on that.
 
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