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"Arctic Express" Coming To The Northwest This Weekend ..(Global warming is bullshit)

"Arctic Express" Coming To The Northwest This Weekend...( Global warming is bullshit)

If you live in western Washington, you might want to check that your heating system still works.

If you live in eastern Washington on the slopes of the Cascades, you might want to make sure you have a snow shovel.

If you live in western Montana, you might want to get your chains ready and stock up on food.


An unusually early and intense Arctic express will hit the region this weekend. And our days of Blob warmth will be over for a while.

Let me start by showing you a stunning image from the NOAA/NWS Climate Prediction Center (CPC)--their 6-10 day forecast for temperature. Specifically, it gives the probabilities of below normal (blue) and above normal (red) temperatures.

Wow--- my colleagues in NOAA are quite sure that below-normal temperature will reign along the entire West Coast as well as the northern Plains States.



The action starts late Friday.
A huge upper level ridge develops in the Pacific, resulting in northerly flow over the western U.S., with a strong trough of low pressure/heights moving into the Pacific Northwest (see upper level-- 500 hPa map for 5 PM Friday below). This pattern will not only bring Arctic air south over the Northwest but will isolate the Northwest from the warming impacts of the Blob (the region of warm water over the northeast Pacific). As a result, western Washington will experience much colder minimum temperatures than observed during the past few months.



Now the details. Here is a forecast map for 8 AM Saturday, showing sea level pressure (solid lines), lower atmosphere temperatures (color shading) and surface winds. There is an intense pressure change (gradient) near the international border, with cold temperatures behind---this is commonly called the Arctic Front. Low pressure, associated with the upper level trough, is centered over SE Washington.




By 5 AM Sunday morning, the cold air and large pressure gradient has pushed south. Eastern Washington, particularly to the east of the Cascade crest, get a piece of it. Montana gets half the pie...with a huge pressure gradient--which means very strong winds will accompany the cold air.




Western Washington will escape the precipitation because the low is too far inland and we will be in the easterly (dry) descending flow. But Bellingham and NW Washington will get very windy, as shown by the forecast for 10 AM Saturday. Wind gusts could get to 35 knots (about 40 mph) from Blaine-Bellingham to over the San Juans. Even in Seattle, winds could breezy and from the north.



Snow? You bet. The temperatures aloft will be cold for this time of the year. Here is the forecast for 850 hPa (about 5000 ft), with the colors showing temperature and the sold lines showing heights (like pressure). Frigid (below -6C) air over northern eastern Washington, Idaho, and Montana, associated with strong easterly flow.




This means snow.




Snow accumulation through 5 AM Sunday (below) show several inches of snow on the eastern slopes of the Cascades, and immense amounts (feet) upstream of the Rockies. Spokane will probably see snow flakes. I suspect there will be some daily temperature and daily snowfall records broken in some locations during the next few days.
 
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And yet on Tuesday Oct 1 it's going to be 26 degrees and will feel like 35 degrees.
 
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Another gomer that doesn't know the difference between 'weather' and 'climate'.
 

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Mr Deeds

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Here
Lets see
Ice caps are melting at an alarming rate
Glaciers are receding at a rate of miles per year instead of feet
Coral reefs are dying because of warming oceans
Hurricanes are stronger and more frequent because of warming oceans
Parts of the world are becoming uninhabitable and causing mass migration
Thousands of species are becoming extinct
At this point anyone who denies climate change needs to get their head out of their asses and take a look around, this planet is in serious trouble
 

nottyboi

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Lets see
Ice caps are melting at an alarming rate
Glaciers are receding at a rate of miles per year instead of feet
Coral reefs are dying because of warming oceans
Hurricanes are stronger and more frequent because of warming oceans
Parts of the world are becoming uninhabitable and causing mass migration
Thousands of species are becoming extinct
At this point anyone who denies climate change needs to get their head out of their asses and take a look around, this planet is in serious trouble
There is little doubt about climate change, its the causes that are up for debate...
 

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Lets see
Ice caps are melting at an alarming rate
Glaciers are receding at a rate of miles per year instead of feet
Coral reefs are dying because of warming oceans
Hurricanes are stronger and more frequent because of warming oceans
Parts of the world are becoming uninhabitable and causing mass migration
Thousands of species are becoming extinct
At this point anyone who denies climate change needs to get their head out of their asses and take a look around, this planet is in serious trouble
Corral reefs arent dying from warming oceans. https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/mystery-disease-killing-caribbean-corals

The rest is in this govt form. Read it and understand it.: https://www.treaty-accord.gc.ca/text-texte.aspx?id=103819

Now tell me how WE tax paying citizens changed global weather for the worst with "Carbon" that living plants need to survive!
 

Dutch Oven

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There are so many threads debating climate change both here in the Lounge and in the Politics forum. Is there anything that's actually new to discuss? It seems like the same arguments are repeated over and over. Most people have heard all these arguments and have made up their minds (for the time being), and it's clear that there is not a sufficient consensus among voters for governments to take drastic action.
 

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There is little doubt about climate change, its the causes that are up for debate...

....by copy and pasters who don't know the difference between a millibar and minibar. Funny how layman who don't trust "the media" rely on another media to do their thinking for them but claim to understand weather and climate.
 

richaceg

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Lets see
Ice caps are melting at an alarming rate
Glaciers are receding at a rate of miles per year instead of feet
Coral reefs are dying because of warming oceans
Hurricanes are stronger and more frequent because of warming oceans
Parts of the world are becoming uninhabitable and causing mass migration
Thousands of species are becoming extinct
At this point anyone who denies climate change needs to get their head out of their asses and take a look around, this planet is in serious trouble
Lol If you need all you mentioned are caused by global warming...Maybe your head is in your ass...
 

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I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s bullshit. Odds are very good that with something as complex as global climate change, if you haven’t (formally, not by reading conspiracy whackjob websites) studied environmental science, you don’t understand the issue as well as you think you do. Spamming charts, and videos, and infographics out of context means less than nothing if you don’t actually have a point of reference to be able to properly interpret that data.

Basically what I’m saying is; you’re all talking out your asses.
 

nottyboi

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....by copy and pasters who don't know the difference between a millibar and minibar. Funny how layman who don't trust "the media" rely on another media to do their thinking for them but claim to understand weather and climate.
It not just laymen, there are technical experts that also dispute the conventional view. Also there are many, many cases were scientists have been opposed to each other.
 

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There are so many threads debating climate change both here in the Lounge and in the Politics forum. Is there anything that's actually new to discuss? It seems like the same arguments are repeated over and over. Most people have heard all these arguments and have made up their minds (for the time being), and it's clear that there is not a sufficient consensus among voters for governments to take drastic action.
Sounds like that's enough reason to keep talking about it.
Sigh.

Protests today were pretty massive.
Latest IPCC report on oceans is pretty devastating.
https://www.ipcc.ch/srocc/home/
Oh, and BS posts about more extreme weather events and then says its proof that everything is normal.
And don't forget the blob.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ean-heatwave-called-the-blob-back/2277096001/
 

Dutch Oven

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Sounds like that's enough reason to keep talking about it.
Sigh.
I would agree with you if there was any new information to share. There doesn't seem to be at the moment. Instead, it seems like endless duelling over the same debate points.
 

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I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s bullshit. Odds are very good that with something as complex as global climate change, if you haven’t (formally, not by reading conspiracy whackjob websites) studied environmental science, you don’t understand the issue as well as you think you do. Spamming charts, and videos, and infographics out of context means less than nothing if you don’t actually have a point of reference to be able to properly interpret that data.

Basically what I’m saying is; you’re all talking out your asses.
This is from the Govt of Canada website. Do you think that the Govt of Canada website is a conspiracy wack job site? https://www.treaty-accord.gc.ca/text-texte.aspx?id=103819

Its all the Global Climate change believers that NEVER read the proof in front of them and ONLY listen to MSMS and little girls with learning disabilities!
 

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There are differences between cycles of natural climate change and what is happening now. For example The Mini Ice Age that began in the early 14th Century did in The Mongol Empire. When the mini Ice Age started to warm up it also caused problems. The planet started to warm in the late 18th Century causing a collapse of the wheat harvest that kickstarted The French Revolution.

Good to know that climate change is bullshit, quoting John Cleese, "my nipples burst forth with joy".
 

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There are differences between cycles of natural climate change and what is happening now. For example The Mini Ice Age that began in the early 14th Century did in The Mongol Empire. When the mini Ice Age started to warm up it also caused problems. The planet started to warm in the late 18th Century causing a collapse of the wheat harvest that kickstarted The French Revolution.

Good to know that climate change is bullshit, quoting John Cleese, "my nipples burst forth with joy".
Read this:https://www.britannica.com/science/medieval-warm-period

Read this:https://realclimatescience.com/2019/08/how-noaa-nasa-erase-americas-hot-past/
 
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