Mississauga mass shooting

They're looking worried about losing their jobs this October in the federal elections so they are home working on their CVd so they can consult in Ottawa. Lol

Joking aside, the gun problem is a multi reason one. We also have a legal system that has no teeth and a head of police that is not doing enough or doesn't want to be the one black guy that is opressing his people by throwing them in jail.

Buy hey, he keeps saying these are isolated events and Trudeau keeps saying diversity is our strength. If you believe those two things then you likely believe in Santa still. Call me I have a resort to sell you in the Sahara.

Laws need to change, the death penalty needs to come back, life in prison needs to mean life in orison, and the bail system needs to be tightened up. Too many times thugs get out and do more crime while on bail. Finally, many single mothers in tbe ghettos need to slap their kids and raise them right or how about this: if you are going to be a civilian whore take birth control pills and have the guy wear a condom. Don't bring unwanted children into the world. Politicians are too worried to tell some minority single mothers to own their shit and be better parents.

I think Toronto is now a shit hole it was a decent city but those days are long gone.

jackal2006 said:

They're looking worried about losing their jobs this October in the federal elections so they are home working on their CVd so they can consult in Ottawa. Lol

Joking aside, the gun problem is a multi reason one. We also have a legal system that has no teeth and a head of police that is not doing enough or doesn't want to be the one black guy that is opressing his people by throwing them in jail.

Buy hey, he keeps saying these are isolated events and Trudeau keeps saying diversity is our strength. If you believe those two things then you likely believe in Santa still. Call me I have a resort to sell you in the Sahara.

Laws need to change, the death penalty needs to come back, life in prison needs to mean life in orison, and the bail system needs to be tightened up. Too many times thugs get out and do more crime while on bail. Finally, many single mothers in tbe ghettos need to slap their kids and raise them right or how about this: if you are going to be a civilian whore take birth control pills and have the guy wear a condom. Don't bring unwanted children into the world. Politicians are too worried to tell some minority single mothers to own their shit and be better parents.

I think Toronto is now a shit hole it was a decent city but those days are long gone.

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The shooting was in Mississauga.

We've already gone through this BS nonsense that you're posting about. Crime and murder rates have decreased over the years. There was WAY more crime with a higher murder rate when there was less diversity.

Let's look at murder rates.

"2018’s homicide rate in Toronto is 3.11 per 100,000 people. That is just above the homicide rate of 3.05 in New York City, which has seen 263 murders as of Nov. 25, and well above Canada’s national homicide rate of 1.80 per 100,000 in 2017.

Last year, the Toronto census metropolitan area (which includes 21 municipalities), ranked fifth out of Canada’s biggest cities when it came to homicide by capita at 1.47 per 100,000, behind Edmonton (3.49 per 100,000), Winnipeg (2.96), Calgary (2.07), and Vancouver (2.02), according to Statistics Canada."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/stats-show-sharp-uptick-in-toronto-shootings-but-murder-rate-still-below-a-dozen-other-canadian-cities-1.4224142

"Of the 84 murders in 2007, roughly half were via firearm, thus, Toronto had a murder rate of about 3.3 per 100,000 – slightly less than the peak rate of 3.9 in 1991.[47]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Toronto

Now tell me. Which years did Toronto have less diversity and a smaller population?

I do agree with making birth control/contraceptives more accessible (especially to low income women) but the religious right will disagree. This gang problem has more to do with economics btw.

@Charlemagne. From one of the links you posted.

However, in 2018, Toronto had the highest homicide rate among major Canadian cities.. Toronto's homicide in 2018 was a record high, at a rate of 3.11 per 100,000 people, higher than the 3.05 per 100,000 people for that of New York City. The number of homicides that year broke the homicide record that was set 27 years prior.[

So we broke the record and we are worse off than new York city. Wow.

Let's keep bringing in more refugees that the government doesn't vet well. I'm all for helping people but would you let someone you don't trust into your home? Well your government under Trudeau did this. It's already too late. They're here and now this place will continue to become a bus station toilet.

At least if they changed the laws to allow citizens to carry arms if someone started shooting you could at least return fire. Let's face it the police is letting us down so we ha e to protect ourselves and our loved ones if they are not properly doing their jobs and the courts are not properly doing their jobs either.

And who are the ones going to get legally battered for this? Not the criminals but the legitimate sports shooters.
I was at an event this weekend where probably 80% of the attendees (including me) were legally open carrying holstered pistols and a bunch of loaded magazines. It was an IPSC match, the firearms were not loaded until the competitor was on the line at the start of their course of fire. No one was shot, no one injured (unless you count those who tried to stand up a bit soon coming out of the fiendishly difficult stage with the tunnels.. even then just a few bruised egos). Every one had a hell of a lot of fun and a pretty decent BBQ lunch as well.

jackal2006 said:

@Charlemagne. From one of the links you posted.

However, in 2018, Toronto had the highest homicide rate among major Canadian cities.. Toronto's homicide in 2018 was a record high, at a rate of 3.11 per 100,000 people, higher than the 3.05 per 100,000 people for that of New York City. The number of homicides that year broke the homicide record that was set 27 years prior.[

So we broke the record and we are worse off than new York city. Wow.

Let's keep bringing in more refugees that the government doesn't vet well. I'm all for helping people but would you let someone you don't trust into your home? Well your government under Trudeau did this. It's already too late. They're here and now this place will continue to become a bus station toilet.

At least if they changed the laws to allow citizens to carry arms if someone started shooting you could at least return fire. Let's face it the police is letting us down so we ha e to protect ourselves and our loved ones if they are not properly doing their jobs and the courts are not properly doing their jobs either.

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The crime rate has nothing to do with refugees. Please post evidence if you want to prove that. Also, we broke the total number of homicides last year (due to the van attack), not overall rates. Crime rates have also fell. Diversity, which you mentioned, has not caused a spike it murders and crime, it looks more like it has gone down because of it. Cities that are less diverse have higher rates of crime and murder.

HEYHEY said:

So not a peep about this shooting on here.
The moment it happens in the states multiple threads pop up and arrogant liberals prance around claiming how theres a problem in America and thank God canadians are so much better off. Yet here we are, strict gun control, gun buyback by our joke of a mayor and we have 100 + rounds in broad daylight in a park.

Where are thou bleeding heart liberals?

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We get that you're only trolling for these liberals that fascinate you, and don't care about the actual shooting, but it would help if you used better bait. Like describing the incident accurately or at least citing a source that tries to. If this is the incident you're referring to, then you're as inept at your hunt as the shooters were in theirs, just not deadly. It's a crappy report, but it's the most up to the minute Google showed.

Since all the facts as reported everywhere suggest this was one gang hunting another gang, and the all the casualties were untargeted, to call it a mass shooting, like Manadalay Bay, Parkland or Sandy Hook, makes it quite clear you posted to parade your politics, not from any concern you have about carnage in our communities.

It's clear you should have put this in Politics.

HEYHEY said:

Aaaaaaand another shooting on the 410 last night.

Good thing we're not like America with the evil NRA, right guys?

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Yeah we get to shop in all the stores they keep supporting, without having to worry about permits and checks, and don't even hafta buy memberships.

Canadians forced to eat crow after mocking American culture. The joke's on you, Jack!

There’s a pretty big difference between gang members shooting each other and random lunatics killing a bunch of innocent people. Both are bad, of course, and of course you could be caught in the crossfire of a gang shooting, but for the most part, if you’re not involved in gang culture, you’re pretty safe here. The same cannot be said in the U.S. They’ve had random shootings at malls, schools, churches, movie theatres, nightclubs, concerts... really, there’s nowhere you can go where you’re guaranteed to be safe. Yes, I know we’ve had a few random attacks here, but they’re few and far between, whereas in the U.S., it happens almost every week.

But of course, none of this means anything to you people because you don’t actually care about the shootings, you’re just taking jabs at who you perceive to be your political enemies, because I guess you have nothing better to do with your time.

TheDr said:

And who are the ones going to get legally battered for this? Not the criminals but the legitimate sports shooters.
I was at an event this weekend where probably 80% of the attendees (including me) were legally open carrying holstered pistols and a bunch of loaded magazines. It was an IPSC match, the firearms were not loaded until the competitor was on the line at the start of their course of fire. No one was shot, no one injured (unless you count those who tried to stand up a bit soon coming out of the fiendishly difficult stage with the tunnels.. even then just a few bruised egos). Every one had a hell of a lot of fun and a pretty decent BBQ lunch as well.

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One minor detail you should mention is that you would be carrying your holstered firearm on a range only... that is the CFO only permits the carrying of a holstered firearm on an approved range; not in the parking lot of a club.

The firearm is to be loaded only when the RO gives the command “make ready”.

You also neglected to point out that you took at least one CFO firearm safety course and at one least Black Badge safety course. You might have waited a year for those licenses to be approved after having provided all personal information to the RCMP - the RCMP now knows the size of your dick (if you are male), if you are female they know if you swallow or spit.

Oh I forgot to mention the RCMP asks you to provide references (to confirm the length of your dick) and interviews your references to confirm you aren’t a nut job. Your name is the checked daily on CPIC (CPIC for those that don’t know about this records your name when you get a cock implant). That’s right folks daily - a licensed gun owner name is checked daily - more often than people were carded. Here’s the best part if a gun owner is charged with any criminal code offence the police will confiscated all your guns and it will cost your thousands of dollars to get them back. Assuming you can get them back. That’s right charged for any criminal code offence not convicted but charged.

To buy ammunition at a gun store you have to produce the license. No license the gun store sales person will tell you to fuck off and they will be politely chatting you up while another salesperson calls the police. The police will greet you at the door and offer you a ride to a special hotel.

As for transporting your gun to a gun club which is the only place you are permitted to legally discharge it in must be locked via using a trigger lock and in a locked case.

Lets not forget here in Ontario you waited what was a lifetime to join a club so that you can practice hitting what you shoot at.

Oh then there are the thousands of dollars you have spent purchasing your equipment legally.

And there is the small fortune you have spent on club memberships, insurance not to mention gun safes, locks.

Ah since you are a Black Badge you have to pay an annual membership fee plus volunteer your time (yes you should even after your proby period) and shoot at matches which aren’t free to shoot now there is the cost for the equipment. Oh my favourite is cost to get the pot hugging shirts which need to be replaced every year because they shrink all the time.

So are you depressed about the thousands you have spent - hell no. What you are pissed off at is when that crook Justin TruDump says he is going to make it illegal for you to own what you legally purchased because some gang banger pond scum goes shooting up a group of people because a rival gang member made a rap video with their crack hoe baby mama.

If you are a gang banger you simply go to Jane and Finch and spend $50 act like a gangster because Drake does shooting kids.

Tory, Trudeau, all police chiefs stand up and say bring back TAVIS.

Smallcock said:

Canadians forced to eat crow after mocking American culture. The joke's on you, Jack!

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Mocking American culture? You think 'our' shooters learned their moves from Heartland, or Murdoch Mysteries? They live in American culture; they don't know there's any other kind.

Read hamermill's post, and TheDr's, that's Canadian gun culture, at least the pistol-branch. The shooters in this incident were as unrelated to any of that, as hyenas are to a herd of antelope.

I can't think of a comparison for people whose culture — American culture — has taught them they're only safe when carrying a pistol no one else knows about.

Like a common killer.

I agree with someone that said the crime went up with refugees. We know we've had problems with Somali gangs here .....but in the States its much worst.

Minneapolis’ ‘Little Mogadishu’ Sees 56 Percent Increase in Violent Crimes Caused by Somali Gangs

Violent crimes increased by more than 50 percent in 2018 in Minneapolis’ Cedar-Riverside neighborhood, nicknamed “little Mogadishu,” which authorities attribute to Somali gang activity in the area.

Buried in a recent Star Tribune article was the fact that violent crimes jumped from 54 in 2010 to 84 in 2018, an increase in roughly 56 percent. Authorities attribute the violence to rivalries between Somali gangs, such as the Somali Mafia, the Somali Outlaws, the Hot Boyz, and Madhibaan with Attitude, Alpha News reports.
According to a 2014 Southside Pride article, the Outlaws and Madhibaan with Attitude have a rivalry that stretches back years, and likely resulted in the murder of two Somali men in April 2014. That article notes that the summer of 2013 was a particularly bloody season for gang warfare, which produced at least 4 killings.

A 2013 CBS article detailed the involvement of the Outlaws, the Mafia, and another gang called the Lady Outlaws in a sex-trafficking ring that recruited and prostituted young girls, some of whom were under the age of 14, between 2000 and 2010. The ring was operated out of Minneapolis, Columbus, and Nashville, and resulted in the indictment of 30 individuals involved.

In 2008, the Minneapolis Police Department created a Somali liaison position to focus solely on addressing the issue. The department currently has 5 Somali-speaking officers to assist in outreach to the immigrant community. According an MPR report from the time, officers began to notice that Somali gangs were dividing themselves along the same clan lines of their war-torn country.
The issue first garnered national attention after a 2009 CBS News report titled “Rise of Somali Gangs Plagues Minneapolis,” though officers were still hesitant at the time to pin the crimes on Somali gang activity.
“It was all gang activity, totally, 100 percent,” Shukri Adan, a Somali community organizer, said of the murders of seven Somali men in a 10-month period. Adan was tasked with drafting a report for the City of Minneapolis in which he estimated that between 400 and 500 Somali men were involved in gangs.

“The police don’t want to say that but everybody else knows that,” he added.

The latest rise in violent crimes in the Cedar-Riverside area comes as a concern to many, considering that city leaders have started to invest in security upgrades and community-outreach programs. In May, for instance, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey announced that a high-rise apartment complex at the center of little Mogadishu would be receiving an $825,000 security upgrade, including fencing, key fobs, and numerous security cameras.

In December, the Minneapolis City Council voted to divert $43,000 from the Minneapolis Police Department to create a youth outreach team for the area, Minnesota Daily reports.
“Everybody’s gotten to the point where, hey, you know, we don’t need more police, we need more intervention,” one organizer in attendance said. Several businesses in the area have joined together to hire off-duty police officers to patrol the area, while others are donating food and beverages to hand out to youth roaming the streets.
The Star Tribune reports that the latest uptick in violent crimes is mostly due to a surge in robberies and assaults.

https://tennesseestar.com/2019/01/0...ase-in-violent-crimes-caused-by-somali-gangs/

HEYHEY said:

Tell that to the 17 year old innocent bystander who is dead, and the 13 year old girl who caught a stray bullet while playing in her apartment

And its few here in canada? No its not, it's a regular thing. Usa is 10x the population of canada, ofcourse it happens less. Multiple what's going on in gta 10 fold and lemme know if it's still ok.

As for people not caring? Are you fucken kidding me? The people who dont care are these politicians who recite their bullshit like a script knowing that what they're saying is nonsense.

Trudeau's response to the shooting was more gun control and that the conservatives loosened it up. Yeah making a authorization to transport your legally owned firearm automatic on your firearms license vs carrying another piece of paper is really loosening gun control. On what planet would have this change prevented anything?

I'm so sick and tired of these asshole politicians, all of them, liberals are just a special kind of stupid but the rest of them are just as pathetic.
Maybe we can build another basketball court, yeah I'm sure thats the answer.

And the people who support these politicians, you have blood on your hands for giving them your votes.

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Ok, so I claimed that you people don’t actually care and are just using it as political ammunition, and your response was to essentially reiterate some of the points I made, then go on a bizarre anti-liberal rant? Cool.

oldjones said:

Mocking American culture? You think 'our' shooters learned their moves from Heartland, or Murdoch Mysteries? They live in American culture; they don't know there's any other kind.

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Wow, I'm sure you have some hard proof to back that exceptional statement. Generalize much?

Charlemagne said:

The shooting was in Mississauga.

We've already gone through this BS nonsense that you're posting about. Crime and murder rates have decreased over the years. There was WAY more crime with a higher murder rate when there was less diversity.

Let's look at murder rates.

"2018’s homicide rate in Toronto is 3.11 per 100,000 people. That is just above the homicide rate of 3.05 in New York City, which has seen 263 murders as of Nov. 25, and well above Canada’s national homicide rate of 1.80 per 100,000 in 2017.

Last year, the Toronto census metropolitan area (which includes 21 municipalities), ranked fifth out of Canada’s biggest cities when it came to homicide by capita at 1.47 per 100,000, behind Edmonton (3.49 per 100,000), Winnipeg (2.96), Calgary (2.07), and Vancouver (2.02), according to Statistics Canada."
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/stats-show-sharp-uptick-in-toronto-shootings-but-murder-rate-still-below-a-dozen-other-canadian-cities-1.4224142

"Of the 84 murders in 2007, roughly half were via firearm, thus, Toronto had a murder rate of about 3.3 per 100,000 – slightly less than the peak rate of 3.9 in 1991.[47]"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Toronto

Now tell me. Which years did Toronto have less diversity and a smaller population?

I do agree with making birth control/contraceptives more accessible (especially to low income women) but the religious right will disagree. This gang problem has more to do with economics btw.

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Violent crime rates and (lack of) diversity have little to no correlation. The reduction in violent crime rates is mainly due to more effective policing. Unfortunately we went away from effective policing when idiot Tory was elected in 2015 and guess what - we've seen homicide rates spike back to 1990's levels.