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basketcase

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Kind of like your attacks on BDS.
Damn right I condemn BDS. So does Canada, the US, and much of the European countries.

I have never suggested making BDS illegal but I have absolutely no intention of sitting quietly while you promote a group often motivated by racial hatred. You keep using BDS to justify your obsession and I'll keep pointing out how it is counter-productive towards peace, created by terrorists, used by racists, and quite patently hypocritical (in more than one way).
 

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Damn right I condemn BDS......
You keep using BDS to justify your obsession and I'll keep pointing out how it is counter-productive towards peace, created by terrorists, used by racists, and quite patently hypocritical (in more than one way).
BDS protests illegal settlements in Occupied Palestine.
You claim to support the two state solution yet are against every move towards it, either civilian protests (where you continue to support using snipers to shoot children in Gaza), rule of law at the ICC or peaceful boycott like BDS.
You claim to be against settlements yet also argue that Israel should keep every single illegal settlement and that the continuing colonization of Palestine isn't killing the two state solution, its BDS.

Now that Israel is planning on annexing vast chunks of Palestine you continue to post as if BDS is still the problem.
You keep trying to dehumanize Palestinians by calling them 'terrorists' while you continue to support creating apartheid Israel and refuse to even criticize annexing Palestine, as if a boycott is the problem, not stealing what remained of Palestine.

Surprise! Trump’s ‘Deal of the Century’ = Annexation & Apartheid


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is moving quickly to alter the political reality in Palestine, and facing little or no resistance.

On September 10, Netanyahu declared his intentions to annex swathes of Palestinian land adjacent to the Jordan River, an area that covers 2,400 square kilometres, or nearly a third of the Occupied West Bank. That region, which extends from Bisan in the north to Jericho in the south, is considered to be Palestine’s food basket, as it accounts for an estimated 60 percent of vegetables that are produced in the West Bank.

While Israel has already colonized nearly 88 per cent of the entire Palestinian Ghoor (or Jordan Valley), dividing it between illegal agricultural settlements and military zones, it was always assumed that the militarily occupied region will be included within the border of a future Palestinian state.

Netanyahu’s announcement has been linked to Israel’s general elections of September 17. The Israeli leader is desperate, as he is facing “unprecedented alliances” that are all closing in to unseat him from his political throne. But this cannot be all. Not even power-hungry Netanyahu would alter the political and territorial landscape of Israel and Palestine indefinitely in exchange for a few votes.

Read: Turkey says OIC to convene after Netanyahu annexation plans

Indeed, talks of annexation have been afoot for years and have long preceded the September elections or the previous ones in April.

A sense of euphoria has been felt among Israel’s rightwing officials since the advent of Donald Trump to the White House. The excitement was not directly linked to Trump but to his Middle East team, like-minded pro-Israel US officials whose support for Israel is predicated on more than personal interests, but religious and ideological beliefs as well.

White House senior adviser, Jared Kushner, selected his team very carefully: Jason Greenblatt as special envoy for Middle East peace, David Friedman as United States Ambassador to Israel, and layers of other second-tier officials whose mission was never aimed at resolving conflict or brokering peace, but supervising a process in which Israel finalizes its colonization of Palestine unhindered.

Kushner’s masterstroke is epitomized in the way he presented his objectives as part of a political process, later named “Deal of the Century”.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (Far C) speaks during a cabinet meeting held in the Jordan valley, for the first time since Israel occupied the West Bank in 1967, in West Bank on September 15, 2019. ( Haim Zach / GPO / Handout – Anadolu Agency )

In all fairness, Kushner’s team hardly laboured or even pretended to be, peacemakers, especially as they oversaw the US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital and of the occupied Golan Heights as Israeli territories. Indeed, none of these officials tried to hide their true motives. Just examine statements made by the just-resigned Greenblatt where he refused to name illegal Jewish settlements as such, but as “neighbourhoods and cities”; and Friedman’s outright support for the annexation of parts of the Occupied West Bank, and much more.

The US political discourse seemed in complete alignment with that of Israel’s right-wing parties. When right-wing extremist politicians, the likes of Naftali Bennett and Ayelet Shaked, began floating the idea of annexing most or all of the Occupied West Bank, they no longer sounded like marginal and opportunistic voices vying for attention. They were at the centre of Israeli politics, knowing full well that Washington no longer had a problem with Israel’s unilateral action.

It could be argued, then, that Netanyahu was merely catching up, as the centre of gravity within his right-wing coalition was slipping away to younger, more daring politicians. In fact, Israel, as a whole, was changing. With the Labor Party becoming almost entirely irrelevant, the Center’s political ideology moved further to the right, simply because supporting an independent Palestinian state in Israel has become a form of political suicide.

Read: Israel arrested 120,000 Palestinians after Oslo Accords

Therefore, Netanyahu’s call for the annexation of Palestinian land east of the Jordan River must not be understood in isolation and only within the limited context of the Israeli elections. Israel is now set to annex large parts of the West Bank that it deems strategic. This is most likely to include all illegal settlement blocs and the Jordan Valley as well.

In fact, Netanyahu said on September 11 that he was ready to annex the Jordan Valley region even before the election date, but was blocked by the Attorney General’s office. Netanyahu would not have taken such a decision if it represented a political risk or if it faced pushback from Washington. It is, then, sadly, a matter of time.

Suspiciously absent in all of this are the Palestinian Authority (PA), the Arab League, the European Union and, of course, the United Nations and its many outlets and courts. Aside from a few shy statements – like that of the spokesperson of the UN, Stéphane Dujarric, decrying that “unilateral actions are not helpful in the peace process” – Israeli leaders are facing little or no hindrance whatsoever as they finalize their complete colonization of all Palestinian land.

Unable to stage any kind of meaningful resistance against Israel, the Palestinian leadership is so pathetically insisting on utilizing old terminologies. The official Palestinian response to Netanyahu’s annexation pledge, as communicated by Prime Minister Mohammed Shtayyeh, came only to underscore the PA’s political bankruptcy.

“Netanyahu is the chief destroyer of the peace process,” Shtayyeh said, warning that annexing parts of the West Bank would have negative consequences.

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For his part, the PA leader Mahmoud Abbas resorted, once more, to empty threats. Abbas said in a statement, “All agreements and their resulting obligations would end if the Israeli side annexes the Jordan Valley, the northern Dead Sea, and any part of the Palestinian territories occupied in 1967.”

Neither Abbas nor Shtayyeh seem troubled by the fact that a “peace process” does not exist, and that Israel has already violated all agreements.

While the PA is desperately hanging on to any reason to justify its continued existence, Netanyahu, with the full support of Washington, is moving forward in annexing the West Bank, thus making apartheid an official and undisputed reality.

The Palestinian leadership must understand that the nature of the conflict is now changing. Conventional methods and empty statements will not slow down the Israeli push for annexation nor Tel Aviv’s determination to expand its apartheid to all of Palestine. If Palestinians continue to ignore this reality altogether, Israel will continue to single-handedly shape the destiny of Palestine and its people.

The views expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily reflect the editorial policy of Middle East Monitor or Informed Comment.
https://www.juancole.com/2019/09/surprise-annexation-apartheid.html

Netanyahu: After Jordan Valley and settlements, I’ll annex other ‘vital areas’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netan...-and-settlements-ill-annex-other-vital-areas/
 

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BDS protests illegal...
Yet country after country have condemned BDS as counterproductive and a hotbed of racism. Just another case where you find yourself against the opinions of the majority of western countries.

p.s. It seems possible that Netanyahu is out and a center-left government in power. If your motivation was protesting Israel's government, you should be happy. Of course you won't because like the founders of BDS, you oppose the idea of Israel existing in the first place.
 

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You claim to be against settlements yet also argue that Israel should keep every single illegal settlement
Sadly your last refuge is to lie about my posts.

Netanyahu is stupid and his pathetic campaigning will never have results. Israel has a strong court system that would never allow major annexations of the West Bank.

You keep trying to dehumanize Palestinians by calling them 'terrorists'
Just the ones like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PFLP, etc. that are terrorists. Why are you so afraid to admit that there are some Palestinian terrorists?


Speaking of dehumanizing, why do you keep insisting that the Palestinians do what you want instead of accepting they want their own state, not to be Israeli.
 

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p.s. It seems possible that Netanyahu is out and a center-left government in power. If your motivation was protesting Israel's government, you should be happy. Of course you won't because like the founders of BDS, you oppose the idea of Israel existing in the first place.
Gantz his hardly left wing. Wonder how his trial for war crimes in the the Netherlands will go?
Or will he 'bomb them into the stone age' again?

He won't negotiate for the two state solution.
 

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Netanyahu is stupid and his pathetic campaigning will never have results. Israel has a strong court system that would never allow major annexations of the West Bank.
Gantz is no different.
“We have made clear that the Jordan Valley is part of Israel forever. Netanyahu drafted a plan to cede the Jordan Valley in 2014,” Gantz’s Blue and White party said in a statement after Netanyahu made his promise. “We are happy that the Prime Minister has come around to adopt the Blue and White plan to recognize the Jordan valley.”
 

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Gantz is no different.
I'm sure you will say the same about every Jewish politician in Israel.

BTW. Democracy is a wonderful thing. Netanyahu's asinine plan inspoired a much higher turnout of Arab Israeli voters and that may be enough to dump Netanyahu.
 

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I'm sure you will say the same about every Jewish politician in Israel.
The right wing is pretty crazy in Israel.
They need a Bernie Sanders there.
I agree with you there.

Democracy is a wonderful thing.
Israel isn't a democracy.
Millions of people living under Israeli rule aren't allowed to vote.
 

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Tell that to Israelis (including the 20% who are Arabs).
Sure, after all, this is what Netanyahu said about those 20% who are actually allowed to vote.
NETANYAHU: IT’S ME OR DANGEROUS ARAB-BACKED GOVERNMENT
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Netanyahu-Its-me-or-dangerous-Arab-backed-government-602144

Some democratic representation when the government calls you 'dangerous' and will never allow you representation in the governing coalition, no matter what.

And don't forget the 4.5 million Palestinians who have lived under Israeli rule for half a century and still can't vote.
That's what makes Israel apartheid and not democratic.

Israel isn't a democracy, its apartheid.
 

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Sure, after all, this is what Netanyahu said about those 20% who are actually allowed to vote.....
You mean the Arabs who chose to be Israeli? Of course they have the vote just like every other citizen. The non-Israeli Palestinians overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli yet your elitist racism has you thinking they need you to tell them what to do.

Sadly you will continue to claim that Palestinians have a right to self determination while saying Israeli Jews don't and you will continue to complain about any Israeli government that doesn't immediately remove Jews from the region like your heroes in Hamas want.
 

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You mean the Arabs who chose to be Israeli? .
Choose?

Do they get the 'law of return' the way Jews can come and 'choose' to be citizens of Israel?
Can Palestinians who have lived under Israeli rule for half a century 'choose' to get citizenship and full human rights?
Do Palestinians in Jerusalem get to 'choose' whether they are living in Palestine or in Israel under Israeli law?
Can Palestinians who have ancestral homes in Israel 'choose' to use the 'law of return' to become Israeli or Palestinian citizens?
Can any Palestinian 'choose' to be a Palestinian citizen while Israel is occupying Palestine and refusing to grant them basic human rights?
Can residents of Gaza 'choose' to get basic rights when even protesting for them will get you shot by Israeli snipers?

Are you trying to claim that the 5 million Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed from Palestine/Israel 'chose' to live as refugees and continue to 'choose' not to return to their homeland?

That's apartheid, buddy.
 

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Choose?...
Yes. Them, their parents, or grandparents accepted Israel's offer of citizenship and polls show they overwhelmingly would prefer to be Israeli rather than citizens of a Palestinian state.

Meanwhile non-Israeli Palestinians overwhelmingly reject the idea of becoming Israeli.

The only Apartheid is your belief that non-whites are incapable of functioning without your help. Seems your support for self determination only applies for people whose determinations coincide with your own elitist agenda.
 

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Yes. Them, their parents, or grandparents accepted Israel's offer of citizenship and polls show they overwhelmingly would prefer to be Israeli rather than citizens of a Palestinian state.
Historical revisionism.

5 million Palestinian refugees who were ethnically cleansed by Jewish terrorists you now claim 'chose' to leave and that only those who refused 'chose' to become Israeli.
They chose no more than the millions of Palestinians living as stateless refugees under Israeli occupation 'chose' to be refugees in their homes.
 

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Here comes the Palestinians vs. Israel circle jerk 2.0
 

basketcase

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Historical revisionism.
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Yes, that is the entire basis of your claims.

You admitted previously that only a very small number of Arabs were forced from their homes, mainly after their villages actively engaged in violence and the vast majority of the 750,000 (not 5 million) fled long before fighting came anywhere near them.

Polls have repeatedly shown the vast majority of Israeli Arabs want to remain Israeli instead of becoming Palestinian citizens while the vast majority of Palestinians don't want to be Israeli and would rather be Palestinian citizens.


BTW. For some reason the Joint Arab List ignored your advice and endorsed Gantz for PM.
 

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Yes, that is the entire basis of your claims.

You admitted previously that only a very small number of Arabs were forced from their homes, mainly after their villages actively engaged in violence and the vast majority of the 750,000 (not 5 million) fled long before fighting came anywhere near them..
No I didn't.
The 5 million Palestinian refugees living just outside of Palestine/Israel's borders were forcibly ethnically cleansed, largely by Jewish terrorists.
They fled attacks and all are awaiting their just Right of Return.

Israel refuses, just as they refuse to give basic human rights and especially the vote, to Palestinians living in Israel/Palestine, understanding that they are the minority now.

Gantz does have the backing of the list, but do you think that Israel would ever have a governing coalition that included Israeli Arabs?
Netanyahu just called them all 'dangerous'.

By the way, you do realize that Netanyahu was banned from FB for exactly the same language you use here, don't you?
 

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No I didn't.
The 5 million Palestinian refugees living just outside of Palestine/Israel's borders were forcibly ethnically cleansed,...
Two lies in one statement. Almost all of those 5 million were born in other countries and almost all of the 750,000 who fled did so long before any fighting neared them. Try reading any historian and they will clearly tell you that fear caused most to flee and very few were forced out. Those are the facts even if you want to create your own.


The rest of your post is just your racist elitism again telling the Palestinians what they should want when in reality, the vast majority hate the idea of becoming Israeli even though you want to force them to.


By the way, you do realize that Netanyahu was banned from FB for exactly the same language you use here, don't you?
You are an absolute joke and you know it.
 

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Two lies in one statement. Almost all of those 5 million were born in other countries and almost all of the 750,000 who fled did so long before any fighting neared them. .
Two lies - all 5 million refugees are recognized as Palestinian refugees by the UN.
Declaring that those refugees successfully fled before they were killed by terrorists doesn't mean they didn't still flee terrorism and violence.



Facebook has sanctioned Benjamin Netanyahu’s official page, after a post called on voters to oppose a government composed of “Arabs who want to destroy us all – women, children and men.”
You have said exactly the same thing here.
 
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