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    CNN’s big ‘mistakes’ all run in one direction: anti-Trump

    CNN was better off when it devoted round-the-clock coverage to missing planes in black holes and human excrement overflowing on cruise ships. Now the network is just a series of embarrassments.

    CNN blared an “exclusive” headline Monday with a story purporting that US intelligence made the decision to “extract” a spy that it had working within the Russian government because officials believed his cover may have been compromised by President Trump having “repeatedly mishandled classified intelligence.”

    That dispatch from Jim Sciutto, CNN’s “chief national security correspondent,” would have certainly been a smash if it weren’t for vehement denials by the administration and subsequent reporting that contradicted the crux of the story — that it had been Trump who screwed up the intelligence operation.

    During a White House press briefing on Tuesday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called CNN’s reporting “materially inaccurate.”

    Stories in both The New York Times and The Washington Post further obliterated the CNN narrative. According to the Times, it wasn’t Trump, but the heightened media scrutiny on Russia following the 2016 election that caused concern for the spy’s safety. It was only when news outlets began piecing together the spy’s identity that the CIA — in “late 2016,” the Times said — began trying to extract the source from Russia. Barack Obama was still president in late 2016.

    The Washington Post likewise reported that Trump “was not the reason for the decision to remove the CIA asset.”

    And yet, as of this writing, CNN has not made a single change to the fundamental allegation of the story. So much for that apple that isn’t a banana and “facts first”!

    CNN’s Spy-Gate yarn was only the latest in a series of major screw-ups by the cable network, some that it has admitted to and some that it hasn’t.

    And by what I’m sure is pure coincidence, all of the awful reporting has taken place in negative stories about the president.

    Last summer, Scuitto was the lead reporter on a story asserting that Michael Cohen, Trump’s former personal attorney (now serving a three-year prison sentence), would testify in front of Congress that the president knew in advance about the infamous 2016 Trump Tower meeting with a Russian lawyer, who had promised to provide the campaign with damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

    If true, that would have meant Trump himself had potentially invited Russia’s interference in the election and that he may have willingly attempted to collude with the Kremlin.

    But Cohen never ended up testifying to that. Yet CNN’s report is still up and running, uncorrected.

    In December of 2017, CNN reported that Trump’s campaign had advance access to the DNC emails that had been stolen and were published by WikiLeaks during the election. Those emails are believed to have been stolen by Russians and, if true, CNN’s report would have again provided further evidence that Trump’s campaign and perhaps Trump himself were coordinating with Vladimir Putin to swing the election.

    But the story wasn’t true, and this time, CNN issued a correction, admitting that it had misread some dates on emails sent by Trump’s son, Don Jr.

    There’s more: In the summer of 2017, CNN ran a story alleging that former White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci, who had worked on the Trump 2016 campaign, had billions of dollars in financial dealings with Russia.

    That wasn’t true, either, and the three journalists who were directly involved in its reporting “resigned” from the network just days later. That was, by the way, after Scaramucci reportedly threatened CNN with a $100 million lawsuit if it didn’t correct the story.

    CNN ended up retracting the report and issuing an apology directly to Scaramucci.

    All this came under CNN’s supposedly straight-news reporting. Insipid analysis by Chris Cillizza, White House press-room stunting by Jim Acosta and Rose Garden rants by Brian Karem can all be dismissed as desperate ratings grabs by CNN — but that’s all supposed to be separate from the supposedly objective presentation of the news.

    The truth? “The most trusted name” is now the most busted name. This is CNN. No, really. This is CNN.

    Eddie Scarry is an author and columnist at the Washington Examiner.

    https://nypost.com/2019/09/11/cnns-b...on-anti-trump/
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    One thing I learned, before I jumped the Iron Curtain, was that journalism can be as rotten as anything else, yet infinitely more damaging. For no matter the size of the lie, there will always be people who believe it. Of course that was before Twitter and social media who, despite all their faults, provide the alternative and a correcting influence. We shall always be grateful to Trump for releasing the lefty partisan with in, in the North American media landscape. The pretence of impartiality and the fair approach in the interest of the citizenry is dead and buried. The problem is: who will tell truth to power, now? Who will keep the politicos honest?
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    I can't even watch CNN anymore, even on the odd occasion that I intentionally try.

    Like yesterday morning around this time, actually a bit earlier, I tuned in to see what coverage they had for 9/11 memorial. Sure enough it was another anti-Trump feeding frenzy so off it went. It's no wonder their ratings continue to tank.

    According to Adweek/July YTD: "CNN continues to post more significant year-over-year losses than its competitors, and finished a distant third place behind Fox News and MSNBC in prime time. The network ranked No. 13 across basic cable in total prime time audience".
    "We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States. But we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants into this country." -- BARACK OBAMA

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    The fact Trump is a sociopathic moron and probably beholden to Putin puts in the shade any stupidities that CNN advances. CNN and Fox they are basically the same just working for slightly different sides. But, media is ultimately beholden to advertisers and media only exists to sell advertising (or your personal data) so I don't expect much from them. Still, to focus on this CNN stuff misses the bigger picture (i.e. Trump is a pathological liar, a menace to the global order and unfit to be president).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbox View Post
    The fact Trump is a sociopathic moron and probably beholden to Putin puts in the shade any stupidities that CNN advances. CNN and Fox they are basically the same just working for slightly different sides. But, media is ultimately beholden to advertisers and media only exists to sell advertising (or your personal data) so I don't expect much from them. Still, to focus on this CNN stuff misses the bigger picture (i.e. Trump is a pathological liar, a menace to the global order and unfit to be president).
    The"big picture" is an illusion. Trump will be gone in 5 years, at the latest. The lying, partisan media is here to stay.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    The"big picture" is an illusion. Trump will be gone in 5 years, at the latest. The lying, partisan media is here to stay.
    They've been here since the first printing press made the first media possible. In fact since the first clay tablets. You thought they were going somewhere?

    What progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldjones View Post
    They've been here since the first printing press made the first media possible. In fact since the first clay tablets. You thought they were going somewhere?
    The media has always taken sides, but the mainstream, "respectful", of the record media has always tried, or at least pretended to be evenhanded. That claim can no longer be made. They have regressed to the beginning of the 20th century party rags that were nothing but mouthpieces of their political masters.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    The media has always taken sides, but the mainstream, "respectful", of the record media has always tried, or at least pretended to be evenhanded. That claim can no longer be made. They have regressed to the beginning of the 20th century party rags that were nothing but mouthpieces of their political masters.
    To be fair, it was Trump who stated it by calling CNN fake journalists and worse, so what do you expect of them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    The"big picture" is an illusion. Trump will be gone in 5 years, at the latest. The lying, partisan media is here to stay.
    Sure.... but somehow making broad statements about a seemingly universal lying, partisan media being here to stay (presumably forever) is not a really big picture statement. I am no fan of the media - a lot of it it lies and cheats like many businesses do (to line their pockets) but Trump and his cadre are the bigger factors the world has to deal with right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbox View Post
    Sure.... but somehow making broad statements about a seemingly universal lying, partisan media being here to stay (presumably forever) is not a really big picture statement. I am no fan of the media - a lot of it it lies and cheats like many businesses do (to line their pockets) but Trump and his cadre are the bigger factors the world has to deal with right now.
    You're living in a democratic society. Governments come and go, hardly an existential issue. That's the big picture.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmand View Post
    To be fair, it was Trump who stated it by calling CNN fake journalists and worse, so what do you expect of them?
    As they started it by treating his campaign as a joke and being clearly biased from the beginning, I'd say his comments were warranted as well.

    Their place as gatekeepers of political news has been shattered by the INTERNET. And the thin veneer of professionalism is now torn away to reveal partisan Hackery and clear bias as well as pandering for ratings.

    I no longer expect anything of them.
    I endorse Senator Bernie Sanders for President in 2020.

    It is my hope Tulsi Gabbard becomes his running mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmand View Post
    To be fair, it was Trump who stated it by calling CNN fake journalists and worse, so what do you expect of them?
    I expect them to be professional. Oops! I forget, that word doesn't apply to the modern media. Trump's attacks are wholly justified. He's got 92% negative coverage. AND it's part of his shtick to bait the reporters and news organizations. He's a manipulator by trade who instinctively knows how to find weak spots in his opponents. More the fools them for falling for it, every single time he goes on attack.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    So you are saying that of those governments that "come and go" none can do enormous and harm to the economy, society and the environment? If so, your complacency and willful blindness is other-worldly....

    QUOTE=jcpro;6495658]You're living in a democratic society. Governments come and go, hardly an existential issue. That's the big picture.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    I expect them to be professional. Oops! I forget, that word doesn't apply to the modern media. Trump's attacks are wholly justified. He's got 92% negative coverage. AND it's part of his shtick to bait the reporters and news organizations. He's a manipulator by trade who instinctively knows how to find weak spots in his opponents. More the fools them for falling for it, every single time he goes on attack.
    But are you not ignoring what Trump actually does and instead focusing on his verbal incontinence and schoolyard tactics. I agree that most of what he says should be ignored (and it is bait) but I don't think people of sound mind should ignore what he does (e.g. work to disorganize military alliances, undermine free trade arrangements, cozy up to Putin, North Korea, refuse to act on gun crime, pursue a failed policy on Iran, deliver enormous tax cuts that mostly benefit the highest income earners, remove basic environmental protections, ignore scientific evidence about climate change, increase defence spending....etc..).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpro View Post
    I expect them to be professional. Oops! I forget, that word doesn't apply to the modern media. Trump's attacks are wholly justified. He's got 92% negative coverage. AND it's part of his shtick to bait the reporters and news organizations. He's a manipulator by trade who instinctively knows how to find weak spots in his opponents. More the fools them for falling for it, every single time he goes on attack.
    His shtick is to paint himself as a victim, to be just like all his supporters who think they are victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbox View Post
    So you are saying that of those governments that "come and go" none can do enormous and harm to the economy, society and the environment? If so, your complacency and willful blindness is other-worldly....

    QUOTE=jcpro;6495658]You're living in a democratic society. Governments come and go, hardly an existential issue. That's the big picture.
    [/QUOTE]

    What did the Trump presidency damage? LOL!!! He has his own style, but his governing in a classic Republican mode.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzbox View Post
    But are you not ignoring what Trump actually does and instead focusing on his verbal incontinence and schoolyard tactics. I agree that most of what he says should be ignored (and it is bait) but I don't think people of sound mind should ignore what he does (e.g. work to disorganize military alliances, undermine free trade arrangements, cozy up to Putin, North Korea, refuse to act on gun crime, pursue a failed policy on Iran, deliver enormous tax cuts that mostly benefit the highest income earners, remove basic environmental protections, ignore scientific evidence about climate change, increase defence spending....etc..).
    Those are issues that the next White House and Congress, whoever they are, may change or not. It's a regular ebb and flow of any mature democracy. Certainly not the end of the world.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by danmand View Post
    His shtick is to paint himself as a victim, to be just like all his supporters who think they are victims.
    And? It works for him.
    "I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in," Hillary Clinton

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    History will reflect on the fact that a TV network allowed itself to go bust because of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Amazing.


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    Thread should be titled:

    Right wingers count only anti-Trump mistakes from CNN and declare bias!
    “To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle

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    The media can't be trusted anymore, plain and simple, I don't care which outlet it is they are all corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Thread should be titled:

    Right wingers count only anti-Trump mistakes from CNN and declare bias!
    It's not that simple, it was just like Fox crushing everything Obama did, they were wrong as CNN is in this case it has nothing to do with right or left wing. It's about the truth which doesn't exist anymore in the MSM

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