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anyone else a big fan of this?
thought not. looks like she has a collection of cocks in a pickle jar. Now the unreadable Atwood has come out with a sequel due to overwhelming demand from ............you guessed it. People like her. a glimpse at the feminist apocalypse.
 

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anyone else a big fan of this?
thought not. looks like she has a collection of cocks in a pickle jar. Now the unreadable Atwood has come out with a sequel due to overwhelming demand from ............you guessed it. People like her. a glimpse at the feminist apocalypse.


I am actually a big fan of this . The main reason this show came out was the abortion law in Alabama. I'm guessing for someone who has never watched it, you would make assumptions and think she is just a feminist trying to get attention. However the show is really amazing with a good story line & IMHO it is more for women then men.

BTW there is nothing wrong with women SUPPORTING other women.

Alabama took away womens rights when they put the "NO ABORTION " law into affect. Do you realize that means that if a girl gets pregnant at a young age she is now FORCED to have the baby instead of deciding what to do with HER body. ? IMHO it is not right & women should be allowed to do whatever they want when it comes to having children.

& yes the people who made that law were ... you guessed it.. MEN.

No need to bash a show that you have never watched. Ive watched her interviews & she is an amazing woman.

To each their own I guess.
 

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Pay no attention to Robbo, sweetiepiexo, he likes the smell of his own farts.

I tried watching the first episode but had to stop, business got in the way. Then a new episode of Succession came up and I forgot about it. Will see it soon.

I'm particularly interested in Yvonne Strahovski, she's transitioned from action star to serious actress with aplomb.

...someone has a foot fetish, everything about Yvonne is gorgeous. (24: Live Another Day)

 

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Pay no attention to Robbo, sweetiepiexo, he likes the smell of his own farts.

I tried watching the first episode but had to stop, business got in the way. Then a new episode of Succession came up and I forgot about it. Will see it soon.

I'm particularly interested in Yvonne Strahovski, she's transitioned from action star to serious actress with aplomb.

...someone has a foot fetish, everything about Yvonne is gorgeous. (24: Live Another Day)

You will love it !! I cant wait for season 4 to start LOL.
 

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For such a deep thinking feminist she sure seems like a shallow superficial hypocrite. Growing up with an abusive father has distorted her view of reality.

If she wants to help women why doesn't she focus on the hundreds of millions of women suffering under the real misogynistic rape cultures found in countries dominated by islamic ideology? An ideology responsible for the deaths of 270 million people and the rape and enslavement of countless women.

I agree that women should be allowed to do whatever they want when it comes to having children. At the same time, it is immoral to put a gun to peoples head and force them to pay for "free" abortions. Are the doctors performing these abortions doing it for free? Greed has always driven the abortion industry. Planned Parenthood by itself brings in almost $1 billion a year.

The greatest wealth we have on earth is human capital. The fact is that abortion is the killing of a potential human life. Every potential new life begins at conception. This is an irrefutable fact of biology. It is true for animals and true for humans. I don't think anyone should believe that abortion is a "good" option.

 
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I quite enjoy the show. Some intense acting and suspense. I could actually see a future like this in some form. Great storyline, great acting. Whats not to love? Having said that....when the porno "The Handjobs Tale" is released here in a bit, I'm going to rub a few out with vigor. Those dresses kind of do it for me. Come to think of it, so does Elizabeth Moss.
 

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The second book I read in English. I found it boring, to be honest. Compared to the first one-"1984"- it was a definite step down- story and language wise.
 

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Pay no attention to Robbo, sweetiepiexo, he likes the smell of his own farts.

I tried watching the first episode but had to stop, business got in the way. Then a new episode of Succession came up and I forgot about it. Will see it soon.

I'm particularly interested in Yvonne Strahovski, she's transitioned from action star to serious actress with aplomb.

...someone has a foot fetish, everything about Yvonne is gorgeous. (24: Live Another Day)

Well you obviously prefer the smell of Atwood's farts if you eat up her dusty shit. When you say business came up, do you mean you had to switch PVR's to watch re runs of Star Trek?
 

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I agree with username999.

There are places in the world where horrific atrocities are felt by women in those countries. Horrible atrocities.

When will feminism stand up to those places and work to better the lives of women there?

Maybe they won’t because it’s too much work? Best they attack people in rich, comfortable countries, because that’s where the low hanging fruit is. There can’t be feminism without an enemy so they invented the patriarchy. Despite women out performing men at every level scholastically and in business.

I’ve got about as much respect for feminism as I do time to read Margaret Atwood.

Which is to say “not much”
 

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I agree that women should be allowed to do whatever they want when it comes to having children. At the same time, it is immoral to put a gun to peoples head and force them to pay for "free" abortions. Are the doctors performing these abortions doing it for free? Greed has always driven the abortion industry. Planned Parenthood by itself brings in almost $1 billion a year.

The greatest wealth we have on earth is human capital. The fact is that abortion is the killing of a potential human life. Every potential new life begins at conception. This is an irrefutable fact of biology. It is true for animals and true for humans. I don't think anyone should believe that abortion is a "good" option.
Granted but lets look at some hard facts. Funding to orphanages has been cut in the USA and in Canada they are at beyond capacity. Human potential is one item but there are too many humans on the planet already. And the adoption system is overworked and under funded, to many children fall through the cracks and too many wind up abused or dead. The Religious Right in the USA and the McVety clique in Canada couldn't care less.

Yvonne Strahovski got an Emmy nomination for her role in The Handmaid's Tale. That brings her body of work to full circle, it's quite impressive: Chuck, 24 - Live another day, Dexter, Louie and The Handmaid's Tale. She has another show in production called Stateless with Cate Blanchett.

 

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Well you obviously prefer the smell of Atwood's farts if you eat up her dusty shit. When you say business came up, do you mean you had to switch PVR's to watch re runs of Star Trek?
Robbo, if you're going to respond at least learn to edit the link. When an opportunity arises you take it, I can watch The Handmaid's Tale later.

I love Star Trek, no shame in that.

 

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Granted but lets look at some hard facts. Human potential is one item but there are too many humans on the planet already.
Only problem is that is not a fact at all. The Malthusian nonsense never ends. It promotes the communist utopian propaganda.The Malthusian law is the basis of the environmental movement.


Just because you hear this nonsense from "authoritative" mainstream media does not mean it is true. The MSM are no longer journalists, they are activists. They prey on peoples fear, anxiety and ignorance. In fact the MSM's survival depends on it.
 

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handmaids tale is inspired by radical islamic sharia laws
This may actually be true but most of hollywood would prefer to demonize Christians than to accept the reality of islamic totalitarianism. Scary how many people prefer to live in a delusion rather than accept uncomfortable truths.
 

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Believe what you will username999, i don't have a problem with that nor The Handmaid's Tale. Although cm isn't right about Atwood's inspiration, the book is an extension of George Orwell's 1984 taken sexually.

I do have a problem with a new film coming out called Hustlers. Some people like JLo - she annoys the fuck out of me. The premise of strippers fleecing men has become a cliche and I don't like men depicted as drooling idiots - were better than that. There is a disconnect between critics and audience, critics have the film at 88% fresh on RT, audiences have it at 58%.

You want to drive me insane, bind me down Clockwork Orange style and force me to watch Jennifer Lopez films.

 

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Believe what you will username999, i don't have a problem with that
https://fee.org/articles/overpopulation-the-perennial-myth/

Overpopulation: The Perennial Myth

The prospect of the Malthusian nightmare is growing steadily more remote.



“What most frequently meets our view (and occasions complaint) is our teeming population. Our numbers are burdensome to the world, which can hardly support us . . . . In very deed, pestilence, and famine, and wars, and earthquakes have to be regarded as a remedy for nations, as the means of pruning the luxuriance of the human race.”

This was not written by professional doomsayer Paul Ehrlich (The Population Bomb, 1968). It is not found in the catastrophist works of Donella and Dennis Meadows (The Limits to Growth, 1972; Beyond the Limits, 1992). Nor did it come from the Council on Environmental Quality and the Department of State’s pessimistic assessment of the world situation, The Global 2000 Report to the President (1980).

It did not even come from Thomas Malthus, whose Essay on Population (1798) in the late eighteenth century is the seminal work to which much of the modern concern about overpopulation can be traced. And it did not come from Botero, a sixteenth-century Italian whose work anticipated many of the arguments advanced by Malthus two centuries later. (For more on this topic, see "How a Free Market Deals with Overpopulation.")

The opening quotation was penned by Tertullian, a resident of the city of Carthage in the second century, when the population of the world was about 190 million, or only three to four percent of what it is today. And the fear of overpopulation did not begin with Tertullian. One finds similar concerns expressed in the writings of Plato and Aristotle in the fourth century B.C., as well as in the teachings of Confucius as early as the sixth century B.C.

From the period before Christ, men have been worried about overpopulation. Those concerns have become ever more frenzied. On an almost daily basis we are fed a barrage of stories in the newspapers and on television—complete with such appropriately lurid headlines as “Earth Near the Breaking Point” and “Population Explosion Continues Unabated”—predicting the imminent starvation of millions because population is outstripping the food supply. We regularly hear that because of population growth we are rapidly depleting our resource base with catastrophic consequences looming in our immediate future. We are constantly told that we are running out of living space and that unless something is done, and done immediately, to curb population growth, the world will be covered by a mass of humanity, with people jammed elbow to elbow and condemned to fight for each inch of space.

The catastrophists have been predicting doom and gloom for centuries. Perhaps the single most amazing thing about this perennial exercise is that the catastrophists seem never to have stopped quite long enough to notice that their predictions have never materialized. This probably says more about the catastrophists themselves than anything else. Catastrophism is characterized by intellectual arrogance. It’s been said of Thomas Malthus, for example, that he underestimated everyone’s intelligence but his own. Whenever catastrophists confront a problem for which they cannot imagine a solution, the catastrophists conclude that no one else in the world will be able to think of one either. For example, in Beyond the Limits, the Meadows tell us that crop yields, at least in the Western world, have reached their peak. Since the history of agriculture is largely a history of increasing yields per acre, one would be interested in knowing how they arrived at such a significant and counter-historical conclusion. Unfortunately, such information is not forthcoming.
Overpopulation

But isn’t the world overpopulated? Aren’t we headed toward catastrophe? Don’t more people mean less food, fewer resources, a lower standard of living, and less living space for everyone? Let’s look at the data.

As any population graph clearly shows, the world has and is experiencing a population explosion that began in the eighteenth century. Population rose sixfold in the next 200 years. But this explosion was accompanied, and in large part made possible, by a productivity explosion, a resource explosion, a food explosion, an information explosion, a communications explosion, a science explosion, and a medical explosion.

The result was that the sixfold increase in world population was dwarfed by the eighty-fold increase in world output. As real incomes rose, people were able to live healthier lives. Infant mortality rates plummeted and life expectancies soared. According to anthropologists, average life expectancy could never have been less than 20 years or the human race would not have survived. In 1900 the average world life expectancy was about 30 years. In 1993 it is just over 65 years. Nearly 80 percent of the increase in world life expectancy has taken place in just the last 90 years! That is arguably one of the single most astonishing accomplishments in the history of humanity. It is also one of the least noted.

But doesn’t this amazing accomplishment create precisely the overpopulation problem about which the catastrophists have been warning us? The data clearly show that this is not the case. “Overpopulation” cannot stand on its own. It is a relative term. Overpopulation must be overpopulation relative to something, usually food, resources, and living space. The data show that all three variables are, and have been, increasing more rapidly than population.

Food. Food production has outpaced population growth by, on average, one percent per year ever since global food data began being collected in the late 1940s. There is currently enough food to feed everyone in the world. And there is a consensus among experts that global food production could be increased dramatically if needed. The major problem for the developed countries of the world is food surpluses. In the United States, for example, millions of acres of good cropland lie unused each year. Many experts believe that even with no advances in science or technology, we currently have the capacity to feed adequately, on a sustainable basis, 40 to 50 billion people, or about eight to ten times the current world population. And we are currently at the dawn of a new agricultural revolution, biotechnology, which has the potential to increase agricultural productivity dramatically.

Where people are hungry, it is because of war (Somalia, Ethiopia) or government policies that, in the name of modernization and industrialization, penalize farmers by taxing them at prohibitive rates (e.g., Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya), not because population is exceeding the natural limits of what the world can support.

Significantly, during the decade of the 1980s, agricultural prices in the United States, in real terms, declined by 38 percent. World prices followed similar trends and today a larger proportion of the world’s people are better fed than at any time in recorded history. In short, food is becoming more abundant.

Resources. Like food, resources have become more abundant over time. Practically all resources, including energy, are cheaper now than ever before. Relative to wages, natural resource prices in the United States in 1990 were only one-half what they were in 1950, and just one-fifth their price in 1900. Prices outside the United States show similar trends.

But how can resources be getting more abundant? Resources are not things that we find in nature. It is ideas that make things resources. If we don’t know how to use something, it is not a resource. Oil is a perfect example. Prior to the 1840s oil was a liability rather than a resource. There was little use for it and it would often seep to the surface and get into the water supply. It was only with the dawn of the machine age that a use was discovered for this “slimy ooze.”

Our knowledge is even more important than the physical substance itself, and this has significant ramifications: More people mean more ideas. There is no reason, therefore, that a growing population must mean declining resource availability. Historically, the opposite has been true. Rapidly growing populations have been accompanied by rapidly declining resource prices as people have discovered new ways to use existing resources as well as uses for previously unused materials.

But an important caveat must be introduced here. For the foregoing to occur, the political and economic institutions must be right. A shortage of a good or service, including a resource, will encourage a search both for additional supplies and for substitutes. But this is so only if those who are successful are able to profit from their effort. This is precisely what classical liberalism, with its emphasis on private property and the free market, accomplishes. A shortage of a particular resource will cause its price to rise, and the lure of profit will attract entrepreneurs anxious to capitalize on the shortage by finding solutions, either additional supplies of the existing material or the development of an entirely new method of supplying the service. Communicating through the use of fiber optics rather than copper cable is a case in point.

Entrepreneurs typically have drawn scientists and others with relevant expertise into the field by paying them to work on the problem. Thus, the market automatically ensures that those most likely to find solutions to a particular problem, such as a shortage of an important resource, are drawn into positions where they can concentrate their efforts on finding solutions to the problem. To cite just a single example, a shortage of ivory for billiard balls in nineteenth-century England led to the invention of celluloid, followed by the entire panoply of plastics.

In the absence of an efficient and reliable way to match up expertise with need, our efforts are random. And in the absence of suitable rewards for satisfying the needs of society, little effort will be forthcoming. It was certainly no accident that the takeoff, both in population growth and economic growth, dates from the decline of mercantilism and extensive government economic regulations in the eighteenth century, and the emergence in the Western world of a relatively free market, characterized by private property, low taxes, and little government interference.

In every category—per capita income, life expectancy, infant mortality, cars, telephones, televisions, radios per person—the performance of the more free market countries far surpasses the more interventionist countries. The differences are far too large as well as systematic to be attributed to mere chance.

Living Space. But even if food and resources are becoming more abundant, certainly this can’t be true for living space. After all, the world is a finite place and the more people in it, the less space there is for everyone. In a statistical sense this is true, of course. But it is also irrelevant. For example, if the entire population of the world were placed in the state of Alaska, every individual would receive nearly 3,500 square feet of space, or about one-half the size of the average American family homestead with front and back yards. Alaska is a big state, but it is a mere one percent of the earth’s land mass. Less than one-half of one percent of the world’s ice-free land area is used for human settlements.

But perhaps “living space” can be measured more meaningfully by looking at such things as the number of houses, the amount of floor space, or the number of rooms per person. There are more houses, more floor space, and more rooms per person than ever before. In short, like both food and resources, living space is, by any meaningful measure, becoming more abundant.

Finally, it should be noted that the population explosion has begun to fizzle. Population growth peaked at 2.1 percent per year in the late 1960s and has declined to its present rate of 1.7 percent. There is no doubt that this trend will continue since, according to the latest information supplied by the World Health Organization, total fertility rates (the number of births per woman) have declined from 4.5 in 1970 to just 3.3 in 1990. That is exactly fifty percent of the way toward a fertility rate of 2.1, which would eventually bring population growth to a halt.

Everything is not fine. There are many problems in the world. Children are malnourished. But the point that cannot be ignored is that all of the major economic trends are in the right direction. Things are getting better.

Contrary to the constant barrage of doomsday newspaper and television stories, the data clearly show that the prospect of the Malthusian nightmare is growing steadily more remote. The natural limits of what the earth can support are steadily receding, not advancing. Population growth is slowing while the supplies of food, resources, and even living space are increasing. Moreover, World Bank data show that real wages are increasing, which means that people are actually becoming more scarce.

In short, although there are now more people in the world than ever before, by any meaningful measure the world is actually becoming relatively less populated.
 

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FUN FACT : it is NOT by any circumstances based on the muslim sharia law .

Watch her interviews here :


It is based on a book written in 1984.

I am a major fan of this show and constantly keep up with the seasons. I agree that women should not get abortions but I also believe that they can do whatever they want when it comes to their bodies.

They have shot scenes all over the world including Toronto Canada & Sydney Australia.

The actors and actresses who portray the characters in this show are very humble and I recommend this show to anyone but I also think you should have an open mind and remember it isn't real when you watch it . A couple episodes will also make you feel what the character is feeling . I know I have shed a few tears from this show.
 

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Believe what you will username999, i don't have a problem with that nor The Handmaid's Tale. Although cm isn't right about Atwood's inspiration, the book is an extension of George Orwell's 1984 taken sexually.
Thanks for the support Sweetiepieoxo. There was a film of The Handmaid's Tale made in 1990. It starred Liam Neeson's late wife Natasha Richardson and the always interesting Elizabeth McGovern. I haven't seen but I noticed something interesting, the names of the characters for the show have been changed from what they were in the movie - except Serena Joy. I started to watch the first episode but work got in the way.

I have complete confidence in Yvonne's ability to play Serena Joy, Hannah McLean (Dexter) was a difficult character to get right.

 
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