In a hypothetical universe where Trump gives every Greenlander 50k a year USD, you have a point. Since you are describing an imaginary world, why stop at 50k, why not 50M?
It's Not A Joke: Trump Confirms He Is Looking At "Strategicaly Interesting" Greenland
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They currently are not an independent country, so they would first have to go through the independency channels first.
Trump of course could also throw in free health care on top of the annual $50K
Thats a stupid question because $50 million * 56,000 Greenlanders = $2,800,000,000,000 (which is $2.8 trillion).
$2.8 trillion would most likely exceed the revenue of any natural resources the US could ever pull from Greenland, so it would be a losing proposition
The other day I was talking to my friend Jim, a great man who thinks I am the best president ever, I asked Jim if he still visits greenland and he said not anymore. I asked him why, and he said greenland is no longer greenland and everybody deserves 50M. Anyways back to the important point, Jim is a great man and thinks I am the best president ever.
I don't know if this can realistically worked out with the local population and the Danes. I do however like the boldness of the suggestion.
Mr. McNasty has presented some very practical, common sense proposals. How many Greenlanders would pass on a chance to live near the beach in South Florida? Lol.
All you Canadians should be very suspicious. Greenland would box you in from three sides. The U.S. can squeeze you like limp poutine. Frankly, I thought we should have taken over on a Thursday night in the 1990's when you were all watching Seinfeld and Friends. 51st state or no Must See TV. But what about Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, blah, blah, blah......you're talkin' to the hand. :hand:
I think some of you Never Trumpers ignore history. We Yankees had a thing people called Seward's Folly. How did that work out?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/sewards-folly
Mr. McNasty has presented some very practical, common sense proposals. How many Greenlanders would pass on a chance to live near the beach in South Florida? Lol.
All you Canadians should be very suspicious. Greenland would box you in from three sides. The U.S. can squeeze you like limp poutine. Frankly, I thought we should have taken over on a Thursday night in the 1990's when you were all watching Seinfeld and Friends. 51st state or no Must See TV. But what about Jim Carrey, Mike Myers, blah, blah, blah......you're talkin' to the hand. :hand:
I think some of you Never Trumpers ignore history. We Yankees had a thing people called Seward's Folly. How did that work out?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/sewards-folly
Lmao......Trump just cancelled his trip to Denmark cuz they won't sell him Greenland.
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Wyatt and Phil. You two are the most gullible people here on Terb. Kathleen although smitten with Trump, can think for herself.
The idea that USA could somehow pressure Denmark to donate Greenland to USA was the most harebrained and obnoxious idea anybody has come up with this century.
Trump has become a laughingstock of at least Europe and Asia. Canadians are too polite to say what they think about this idiocy.
PS: I expect The Trump lovers here start to show me some respect. Here is what he posted:"Denmark is a very special country with incredible people ...."
The idea that USA could somehow pressure Denmark to donate Greenland to USA was the most harebrained and obnoxious idea anybody has come up with this century.
Trump has become a laughingstock of at least Europe and Asia. Canadians are too polite to say what they think about this idiocy.
PS: I expect The Trump lovers here start to show me some respect. Here is what he posted:"Denmark is a very special country with incredible people ...."
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But you live in Canada, I think he was talking about the folks who currently live in Denmark. lol
I don't think it's going anywhere. I don't want to get into criticizing you back. I would just say that from my business experience that "everyone has their price" is a well worn adage for a reason.
It's not going to happen for one important reason. No self-respecting European Social Democrat leader would ever make a deal with the disgusting and insensitive Donald Trump. However, I do believe that now that this idea is out there never say never.
Of course, I believe the Greenlanders should vote on any proposal. If you stand back from all the static, Greenland has very little in common with Denmark. It has a lot more in common with some Canadian provinces.
So you think that Canada somehow makes people less incredible when they move here. LOL
Actually, the average intelligence of both Canada and Denmark increased when I moved to Canada.
Seriously, you are uninformed and mistaken on so many levels that it is not possible to argue with you.
So we both agree not to take it any further.
I thought we agreed not to carry on. OK, I will answer a couple of points in your post.
Your point that Denmark does not want to sell Greenland, because the PM is social Democratic and hates Trump, is simply beyond idiotic. There is no air between any of the political parties in Denmark about this, and that includes conservative and populist parties. As a matter of fact, the right wing parties have been vocal about how Trump has insulted the Queen by cancelling, and the largest conservative party is calling for redirection of Denmark's security policies towards Europe.
Secondly, have you heard anybody from Greenland say anything positive about Trump's offer to buy Greenland? Does that tell you something?
And you dont read very well, I never said anything about a donation.
I dont even think Denmark would ever sell Greenland either.
What I do think however is if Greenland ever got total independence, they would take the deal I described earlier in a heartbeat.
That deal is $50K lifelong income for every Greenlander, throw in some free healthcare and they'd have to be idiots not to take that deal. They would be getting essentially a much better deal Denmark is offering (since AFAIK Denmark doesnt give them a $50K salary), except they'd get to live in a much nicer climate.
You'd have to be stupid not to take that deal
Only among Lefties, which is a good thing :nod:
Greenlanders have all the independence they want. Read the Act on Greenland Self-Government from 2009. http://www.stm.dk/_p_13090.html
The only point of friction between Denmark and Greenland lately has been that Denmark gave the Americans access to build a dozen bases (installations) in Greenland and failed to clean up after they left.
Denmark, Greenland sign deal to clean up U.S. military waste
The 1951 agreement didn't specify who would be responsible for cleanup
The Associated Press · Posted: Jan 11, 2018 3:34 PM CT
A rusty container of lubricant oil for a U.S. military vehicle stands among abandoned U.S. military material on Aug. 16, 2005, outside the eastern Greenland settlement of Kulusuk where there used to be an U.S. Air Force base as part of an early warning radar system. (John McConnico/AP)
Denmark and its autonomous Arctic island of Greenland have signed an agreement to clean up U.S. military installations that were left to rust in the pristine landscape after the Cold War.
The deal earmarks 180 million kroner ($29 million) over six years for the cleanup. Greenland Premier Kim Kielsen and Danish Environment Minister Esben Lunde Larsen finalized it in Copenhagen on Thursday.
Lunde Larsen said a Denmark-Greenland steering group will decide when and where to start the cleanup.
A 1951 deal between Copenhagen and Washington allowed the U.S. to build 33 bases and radar stations in Greenland.
The agreement didn't specify who would be responsible for cleanup.
Lunde Larsen and Kielsen singled out areas south of Nuuk, the Greenland capital on the west coast, and Tasiilaq on the east coast, where there are defunct buildings, abandoned vehicles and empty fuel barrels littered along runways used by Americans for the North Atlantic air ferry route during World War II. U.S. planes touched down in Greenland on their way to war in Europe and North Africa.
The deal between Denmark and Greenland doesn't cover a U.S. facility that is still in use or, for instance, Camp Century, an under-ice missile project abandoned in 1966 because the cap began to crush the camp. A separate deal from February 2017 between Denmark and Greenland is monitoring and gauging the never-completed launch site for nuclear missiles under the surface of the massive ice cap.
"I am pleased that we can work together to do the cleaning," Kielsen said, adding Greenland for long had wished to remove junk from American activities.
But does Greenland have the independence to sell their country to the US if they wanted to??
I dont think they do, otherwise why would Denmark refuse to sell??
Seriously, dear friend, I think you should let this dead horse rest in peace. NOBODY wants to sell Greenland (and if they did, China would likely bring the best offer)
Why don't you start arguing for USA purchasing parts of Canada.
1. NWT would be strategic for USA and has mineral riches, next door to Alaska.
2. Quebec is a pain in the neck for many Canadians.
3. The Maritime provinces is a large cost to central Canada
4. Alberta would likely welcome a chance to join USA
See, there are lots of opportunities for a fire sale of Canadian provinces.
You didnt answer my question because you know the answer is 'no'.
Greenland does not have the autonomy to sell their country, or to become an unincorporated territory like Puerto Rico.
So therefore it is essentially owned by Denmark
