Only after it became public. And the PM failed in his interference attempts.
And now it may be worse for SNC Lavalin. Scrutiny is full on this. The judge won't be lenient I expect.
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And now it may be worse for SNC Lavalin. Scrutiny is full on this. The judge won't be lenient I expect.
Whatever.Only after it became public. And the PM failed in his interference attempts.
And now it may be worse for SNC Lavalin. Scrutiny is full on this. The judge won't be lenient I expect.
Trudeau's gov't acted just as you want while conservatives never have.
Meanwhile, the crime you are so offended by:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/libya-snc-1.5014939I bribed the Libyans. It's how things work in hopelessly corrupt countries: Neil Macdonald
If the others are worse, I guess you are saying "don't vote at all"True. But obvious corruption shouldn't be rewarded.
If you vote for him you are enabling the behavior.
Who said they are worse? Have the Greens engaged in corruption?If the others are worse, I guess you are saying "don't vote at all"
Glad to hear that you are now a Green party, Sanders voter.Who said they are worse? Have the Greens engaged in corruption?
I just might be this election. Still deciding.Glad to hear that you are now a Green party, Sanders voter.
Not just a fine, they are also subject to other oversight and complaince reporting if the court deems necessary. If they are criminalized they pay a fine and then have a record that can permenantly damage or destroy a company even if none of the people resposible for criminal decisions are part of the company any longer...gee that makes sense.Let's see......
A DPA means a Corporation can pay a fine as opposed to facing criminal prosecution and any sanctions that may entail.
So yes, it means exactly that they can buy their way out.
Depends on what you mean by corruption. The have collaborated with foreign players to lobby against legal economic activities in our country and hobble major industries. Some might consider that treason...Who said they are worse? Have the Greens engaged in corruption?
So you also are against fines and only for jail sentences for all crimes?
DEATH FOR ALL CRIMES INCL SPEEDING OVER 10 KPH!! lol
I agree, while its clear the PM wanted a DPA to be considered the AG put her foot down (after a very long time) and it did not happen. So AFIK the voliation really due to her failure to shut this down clearly with a published memo to cabinet and the PMO. She also refused to give reasons to the PM which left him with the impression she had not really considered the issue. I am someone uneasy with the access SNC was granted, but on the whole of it I think the idea of creating DPA legislation and seeking a DPA in this case is reasonable.Bullshit, you don't care about Trump and lobbyists.
You don't care about Ford and his lobbyists.
And whatever you think about SNC and Trudeau, they did not buy themselves out of anything, the AG ruled against them.
Which should show you that only the liberals have acted to hold lobbyists to the law and the rules.
Yes it does make sense. Because the people running corporations decided to legally make corporations people under the law. And they did it so the people running the companies wouldn't be held criminally liable.Not just a fine, they are also subject to other oversight and complaince reporting if the court deems necessary. If they are criminalized they pay a fine and then have a record that can permenantly damage or destroy a company even if none of the people resposible for criminal decisions are part of the company any longer...gee that makes sense.
Fine. But that means that the corporate entity is liable no matter who is running it. That's the way they wanted it. Now it has come back to bite them on the ass.
Sorry no sympathy here. Break the law, accept the consequences.
They kept going back using multiple people. She did make it clear.I agree, while its clear the PM wanted a DPA to be considered the AG put her foot down (after a very long time) and it did not happen. So AFIK the voliation really due to her failure to shut this down clearly with a published memo to cabinet and the PMO. She also refused to give reasons to the PM which left him with the impression she had not really considered the issue. I am someone uneasy with the access SNC was granted, but on the whole of it I think the idea of creating DPA legislation and seeking a DPA in this case is reasonable.
And they even told her to her face it was needed for votes. That's pure corruption imo. Selling justice for votes.
WHEN did she make it clear, as far as I can tell it was very, very late in the game when she had the conversation she testified about, she never did anything in writing, or even email to cabinet and PMO as far as we know (if not she would have mentioned it. Doing something so people will vote for you is not corruption, it is democracy... geez grow up already.They kept going back using multiple people. She did make it clear.
And they even told her to her face it was needed for votes. That's pure corruption imo. Selling justice for votes.
Allowing criminal behavior, specifically bribery of govt officials is good democracy?WHEN did she make it clear, as far as I can tell it was very, very late in the game when she had the conversation she testified about, she never did anything in writing, or even email to cabinet and PMO as far as we know (if not she would have mentioned it. Doing something so people will vote for you is not corruption, it is democracy... geez grow up already.
Wow. You just lost the argument.
No that was not at all what I said, SNC would have been punished for any malfesance. The govt would be rewarded by the electorate for finding a way to deliver justice without hurting jobs.Allowing criminal behavior, specifically bribery of govt officials is good democracy?
Wow. You just lost the argument.
Judging from the reaction of the Canadian public I doubt this. They won't be rewarded with anything more than a minority govt at best and a time out at worst.No that was not at all what I said, SNC would have been punished for any malfesance. The govt would be rewarded by the electorate for finding a way to deliver justice without hurting jobs.
I understand and make allowance for political expediency.
What irks me about Trudeau is his self-righteousness and marketing himself around transparency and absolute right and wrong.
When you fall off a high horse, it's a hard landing.
What irks me about Trudeau is his self-righteousness and marketing himself around transparency and absolute right and wrong.
When you fall off a high horse, it's a hard landing.
Yup because the Canadian public saw how Ontaio voted out of spite and and what it got in return. Canada is in pretty good shape, no need to change.Judging from the reaction of the Canadian public I doubt this. They won't be rewarded with anything more than a minority govt at best and a time out at worst.
The reason Trudeau is self rightous is its the only thing Canadains would accept. Paul Martin was less self rightous and he was labelled a "ditherer" All Trudeaus critics were calligh him weak, you think showing doubt or reflection is an option?I understand and make allowance for political expediency.
What irks me about Trudeau is his self-righteousness and marketing himself around transparency and absolute right and wrong.
When you fall off a high horse, it's a hard landing.
You must be working for the Liberals. The "Look! It's a Ford" strategy isn't going to work.Yup because the Canadian public saw how Ontaio voted out of spite and and what it got in return. Canada is in pretty good shape, no need to change.
