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shack

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Hence why compare who is better a player now or a player from a different era.
Which is why I said no use continuing the debate. I only bring up Laver when someone makes a declaration like "Nadal is clearly the GOAT".
 

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But that era had much more depth than this one. They were all so good that, aside from Laver, no one else could dominate.

How about an era with Borg, Connors, McEnroe, Lendl, Nastase?
Well if you throw in guys like Nastase, then in this era you could add in Murray and Wawrinka, they have 3 grand slam titles each.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Watching CP24 she didnt even stop to sign a dozen autograph hunters who had waited for an hour outside her press conference.

Thats not a good way to treat your fans
 

shack

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Watching CP24 she didnt even stop to sign a dozen autograph hunters who had waited for an hour outside her press conference.

Thats not a good way to treat your fans
I did not realize that she is that horrible of a person. Phil, will this cost her the Lou Marsh?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I did not realize that she is that horrible of a person. Phil, will this cost her the Lou Marsh?
I didnt say she was a horrible person shack, stop putting words in my mouth.

It would have taken her less than 5 minutes to sign a dozen autographs.
Some people are gonna remember those things
 

Insidious Von

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Filippo I've forgotten it already and be thankful that shack is only putting words in your mouth. ;)
 

shack

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I didnt say she was a horrible person shack, stop putting words in my mouth.

It would have taken her less than 5 minutes to sign a dozen autographs.
Some people are gonna remember those things
Considering how crazy her life must have been since her win what, at first glance, seems like a very simple thing to do, may not have been such a minor task. I think she deserves some slack here and in light of that, the incident probably was not worth mentioning and criticizing her for. Just sayin'.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Considering how crazy her life must have been since her win what, at first glance, seems like a very simple thing to do, may not have been such a minor task. I think she deserves some slack here and in light of that, the incident probably was not worth mentioning and criticizing her for. Just sayin'
Maybe she was too busy to sign a dozen autographs, we'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

But this is how arguably the 2 greatest athletes on the planet treat their fans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1c5XYJusaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWJJ_U_70pQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1rTAVZjzzc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9yMsQqwoCE

I'm betting they too live hectic lives, yet they still take the time to sign autographs
 

shack

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I suspect that everyone has times that they are not interested in signing depending on the circumstance. Not that they let fans get close in this case but I highly doubt that he would have been receptive .
 

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Watching CP24 she didnt even stop to sign a dozen autograph hunters who had waited for an hour outside her press conference.

Thats not a good way to treat your fans
Adults or children?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Adults or children?
Video panned out fairly quickly but it looked like a dozen or so teenagers or young adults. It wasnt very many people.
One guy approached her while she was inside the car and she did quickly roll down the window to give him a scribble
 

gcostanza

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Video panned out fairly quickly but it looked like a dozen or so teenagers or young adults. It wasnt very many people.
One guy approached her while she was inside the car and she did quickly roll down the window to give him a scribble
Adults? Fuck 'em.
Most of those are professional autograph hunters, they sell the signatures.
Teens? Be good to sign, if she had time. May have had a obligation somewhere.
 

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I would love to see today's players play with the smaller head, heavy wood rackets. No way they can hit the ball with power as they do today. In the era of the wooden rackets, it was like a chess match where you moved your opponent around in order to hit a winner. In today's game , it's all about overwhelming your opponent with power.

I've always thought that if Martina Hingis played in the 60's to 70's, she would have dominated and would have the most Grand Slam titles.

She was a cerebral player, Serena never domintaed her in head to head meeting as Serena only leads 7-6.
Hingis leads Venus 11-10 in head to head meetings
Those old racquest did not allow you to generate the topspin to get the ball down when you it it hard. They could hit the ball hard, but it would be out...
 

Insidious Von

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Correct, had Rafael Nadal played with a wooden racquet, he'd have far fewer Slams under his belt.

I'm assuming that the age limit was successfully challenged by Corey Gauff's handlers. It was put in place to avoid the downfalls that happened to Martina Hingis and Jennifer Capriati. Both won Slams before they were 18 and both ended up enjoying the nose candy. They could have had longer careers had they stayed clean. Monica Seles was left emotionally scarred by the German attack, its taken her a very long time to recover. Part of the problem was that she could no longer serve with power.

That hasn't happened as much in the men's game, but they take longer to develop than women. Ilie Nestase and Pat Cash were known party animals but they kept it together enough to win Slams.
 
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