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Doug Ford's 'Nutcase' Remark About Mental Health Detainee Crossed A Line: MPP

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07/18/2019 16:47 EDT

Doug Ford's 'Nutcase' Remark About Mental Health Detainee Crossed A Line: MPP

The premier made the remarks on a radio show.

By Emma Paling

TORONTO — An Opposition MPP is slamming Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s comments about a mentally ill patient as “derogatory” and unhelpful.

Thursday morning, Ford called into a Toronto talk radio show to talk about Zhebin Cong, a patient at the city’s Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH) who was found not criminally responsible for the 2014 murder of his roommate.

Cong, who has schizophrenia, left CAMH unaccompanied on July 3 and boarded a flight out of the country, according to police.

‘Crazy, crazy people’

Ford called the man a “nutcase” and said his government has to make changes so that “crazy” people aren’t on the street.**

“This is what we have to change, Jerry, right across the board, making sure these crazy, crazy people that want to go around chopping people up, they’re out on the street,” he said to host Jerry Agar.

“Letting this guy loose? You gotta be kidding me … There’s gonna be people held accountable. You can’t let guys like this loose. You throw away the key.”

NDP MPP Taras Natyshak told reporters that the premier should change his priorities.

“We need to ensure the safety of the public first and foremost … that should be the paramount concern of the premier. Not to stigmatize every person that has ever had an issue with mental illness by calling them crazy, crazy, crazy,” Natyshak said.

“That’s not an approach that I think the general public want to see from their premier. It’s an approach that I think Doug relies on when he’s at a loss for any true policies around dealing with these issues.”

That’s not an approach that I think the general public want to see from their premier.Taras Natyshak

People with mental health issues are no more likely than the general public to act violently, according to the Canadian Mental Health Association. Misconceptions around mental health and violence contribute to the stigma and discrimination that people with mental health challenges face, the association says.

A spokeswoman for Ford did not address HuffPost Canada’s questions about the premier’s use of the terms “crazy” and “nutcase” to describe someone with a severe mental illness.

“The situation around the Zhebin Cong case is disturbing and outrageous. The fact is, a person who murdered someone using a meat cleaver was deemed low-risk to the public and was out on the street for two weeks without the public knowing. Furthermore, he was allowed to get on a plane with law-abiding citizens and fly out of Canada and escape,” spokeswoman Ivana Yelich said in a statement by email.

“The federal government has some explaining to do. How could this person have been allowed to get on a plane with the public and leave the country?”

With files from The Canadian Press

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/doug-ford-nutcase-zhebin-cong_ca_5d30d604e4b020cd9940d106?ncid=fcbklnkcahpmg00000001
 

Frankfooter

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Well, so much for Scheer's plan to put Ford on holiday until after the election.

'Course it'll be fun once school starts in sept and everyone realizes how much he's fucked up their kids education.
 

HEYHEY

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If some who uses a meat cleaver to murder someone cant be called a nutjob you must be a liberal lol
 

Butler1000

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When the focus becomes not what caused a killer to be let out unsupervised and actually leave the country but what Ford said on a radio show that truly shows how myopic the press is in their partisanship.
 

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Attacking the sanity or intelligence of someone should be fair game. Other avenues of attack are off limits such as race, gender, and religion. Sanity and intelligence is something that can be improved upon. Other things that can be improved upon like honesty and integrity should also be fair game.
 

Charlemagne

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When the focus becomes not what caused a killer to be let out unsupervised and actually leave the country but what Ford said on a radio show that truly shows how myopic the press is in their partisanship.
You think it's okay for him to use derogatory terms to describe the mentally ill?
Cracks about his weight shouldn't be off limits then..
 

Butler1000

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You think it's okay for him to use derogatory terms to describe the mentally ill?
Cracks about his weight shouldn't be off limits then..
No, but I don't think it deserves to bump from the news the actual issue that a convicted killer was allowed to walk free and leave the country.

And that's what it did. And when they play someone from CAMH outraged at this use of language it's laughable. Meanwhile they speak generically about the actual incident line it's no big deal. Off camera in oatmeal statements.

Tell that to the family of the victim.

Feel free to call him fat or any other name. I didn't vote for him.
 

apoptygma

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It is clear that there are a number of terb members that know absolutely nothing about mental health.
 

Butler1000

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It is clear that there are a number of terb members that know absolutely nothing about mental health.
It's clear the mental health professionals in charge of Cong need some clues as well........
 

Butler1000

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Feel free to add the police not informing the public of his escape for 11 days.......

And whoever allowed him on an international flight out as well.

Isn't that supposed to be the issue?
 

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If we looked back in Terb history I'm betting we could instances where members like Leave-to-Bver or Kid Charlemagne called a Ford a nutcase.
 

bazokajoe

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What he said is irrelevant. The real issue is with the facility.So many questions to ask.
How and why did he get out?
No security in this place? Security cameras?
No security fencing?
Where did he get his passport from?Airport screening/customs didn't pick up his criminal record?
Hopefully there is an inquiry to this.
 

Darts

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A CAMH rep said on TV yesterday that calling Mr. Cong a "nutcase" is derogatory to all mentally ill people, their families, their friends.

("Cracks about his weight shouldn't be off limits then." This would be derogatory to all overweight people. You criticize one overweight, you are criticizing all overweights.)
 

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A CAMH rep said on TV yesterday that calling Mr. Cong a "nutcase" is derogatory to all mentally ill people, their families, their friends.

("Cracks about his weight shouldn't be off limits then." This would be derogatory to all overweight people. You criticize one overweight, you are criticizing all overweights.)
Commendable viewpoint. If only the Preem was as well brought up as you.
 

mellowjello

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Attacking the sanity or intelligence of someone should be fair game. Other avenues of attack are off limits such as race, gender, and religion. Sanity and intelligence is something that can be improved upon. Other things that can be improved upon like honesty and integrity should also be fair game.
Is a mentally handicapped person fair game?
How about a schizophrenic?
 

Butler1000

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Commendable viewpoint. If only the Preem was as well brought up as you.
If only the CAMH rep had had the guts to issue a live statement the day before on why he was let out in the first place instead of the oatmeal statement issued.

But a chance to deflect blame to an unpopular politician? Why pass that up.
 
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