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Once again the right wingers catch the bull by the tail. Illegals have been deported under Obama administration at record numbers. Especially those with criminal pasts etc. However, Immigrant Courts adjudicated the process in a very timely manner. There were no family separations etc unless of course you want to buy the online Alt right Online Conspiracy Websites total BS in this manner. We know that the right wingers love these fake news. However, if migrant families have a case for refugee status, then the Constitution permits them to follow that process.
 
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bver_hunter said:
However, if migrant families have a case for refugee status, then the Constitution permits them to follow that process.[/QUOTE]


Thats the whole debate! I totally agree with this statement!!

To just cross over a border Illegally is NOT the way to make a claim. Rules come first.

Why do we need passports when crossing borders? Im sure theres a reason isnt there? I would love to walk over the bridge into the US and get a job without a green card and live the American dream but its UNLAWFUL unless I follow protocol. If we all did just that, the citizens of that country wouldnt have a job and social programs would be overwhelmed leaving nothing for the citizens of that country to have. THAT is just some of the reasons ILLEGAL border jumping is bad. Pics of mothers and children on MSM dont help the cause either because we as humans love a good tear jerk!
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What was the question: Do you like illegal immigration? Do you think illegal immigrants are popular? How do you feel about illegal immigrants?

Who 'likes' illegal anything?
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There is no question. Its a true statement. I dont see a question in the article, just a fact. Nobody is asking you anything other than to read the article and post a comment if you like.

BTW, who "Likes" illegal anything? I do. If I can get a deal on something that deems it illegal, i'll take my chances and go for it. Remember Direct TV 20 years ago??? I had it. :)
 
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Here is Mexicos immigration policy:

With the Mexican government’s intent to control migration flows and attract foreigners who can contribute to economic development, the new migration law simplifies foreigners’ entrance and residence requirements. It replaces the two large immigration categories—immigrant and nonimmigrant—with the categories of “visitor” and “temporary resident”, while keeping the status of “permanent resident”. In the General Law of Population the two categories incorporate over 30 different types of foreigners—i.e. distinguished visitor, religious minister, etc.—each with its own stipulations and requirements to qualify for entry and stay. Under the new law the requirements are simplified, basically differentiating those foreigners who are allowed to work and those who are not. The law also expedites the permanent resident application process for retirees and other foreigners. For granting permanent residency, the law proposes using a point system based on factors such as level of education, employment experience, and scientific and technological knowledge.[5]

Why cant the US and Canada be allowed to do the same?
 
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oldjones said:
"…for the everify??"

Whatever that might be, he'd likely have better luck with lawful Executive Orders. Especially now that he's stacked the Supreme Court. But that would be work, and "Work is hard!", says Donny.

On his way to Mar-a-Lago.
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E-verify is the foundation for the immigration reform. It works by denying employment to the illegals- economics being the reason vast majority migrate. E- verify needs Congress to pass it. Any attempt at the comprehensive immigration reform without E-verify is doomed to fail. When it reaches bipartisan support, that's when we will know that the legislators are serious.
 
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jcpro said:
E-verify is the foundation for the immigration reform. It works by denying employment to the illegals- economics being the reason vast majority migrate. E- verify needs Congress to pass it. Any attempt at the comprehensive immigration reform without E-verify is doomed to fail. When it reaches bipartisan support, that's when we will know that the legislators are serious.
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Could you also use that for sending money internationally?
 
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onthebottom said:
So your saying Mexico’s approach is acceptable in Mexico as it relates to Central Americans but it’s unacceptable for the US to treat Illegal Mexicans that way in the US?

I do think we should punish, aggressively, hiring illegal migrants.
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No, you are saying that, not me. I'll say my say again, with more emphasis: That stuff is for you guys to decide. Got it this time?

I do agree with your individual insight into what attracts those illegals, and the best way to deal with it, to discourage them. But you are just one in a nation of many millions. I also repeat the wise words of onthebottom on what that nation needs and why they don't have it: Self awareness is really the rarest element in the universe. It's an American problem not a foreign one.

Spread your wise words where you are.
 
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onthebottom said:
I do think we should punish, aggressively, hiring illegal migrants.
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As we have agreed many times, this alone would solve the problem.

And by the way, this is what all other countries do.

I believe that USA has laws to that effect, they are just not enforced. That means that the administration does not need Congress to solve the problem.
 
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danmand said:
As we have agreed many times, this alone would solve the problem.

And by the way, this is what all other countries do.

I believe that USA has laws to that effect, they are just not enforced. That means that the administration does not need Congress to solve the problem.
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As I've oft said. The USA was founded on and continues to perpetuate a permanent underclass they can control through fear.

Illegals are the latest. It's why they don't go after the employers.
 
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Butler1000 said:
As I've oft said. The USA was founded on and continues to perpetuate a permanent underclass they can control through fear.

Illegals are the latest. It's why they don't go after the employers.
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As I have also oft said, it is straight out of Marx.
 
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onthebottom said:
Could you also use that for sending money internationally?
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E-verify program is a way for the emplyoyer to check if the potential employee is eligible for employment in America. In order for it to work, it needs real legal teeth like massive fines and even jail time for any company or individual that would employ an illegal immigrant. Cut off the income and the purpose for immigration is no longer there.
 
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Butler1000 said:
As I've oft said. The USA was founded on and continues to perpetuate a permanent underclass they can control through fear.

Illegals are the latest. It's why they don't go after the employers.
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Sort of like the way Trump hires illegal aliens for his golf courses?
 
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onthebottom said:
In Mexico

Nearly two-thirds of voters consider illegal immigrants a burden. Fifty-five percent of them want all illegal immigrants kicked out of the country. Is this a poll from border states, or states won by Donald Trump in 2016? Actually, these numbers come from a survey conducted by the Washington Post and Reforma, a leading daily in Mexico.

Mexicans are deeply frustrated with immigrants after a year of heightened migration from Central America through the country, according to a survey conducted by The Washington Post and Mexico’s Reforma newspaper.

More than 6 in 10 Mexicans say migrants are a burden on their country because they take jobs and benefits that should belong to Mexicans. A 55 percent majority supports deporting migrants who travel through Mexico to reach the United States.

Those findings defy the perception that Mexico — a country that has sent millions of its own migrants to the United States, sending billions of dollars in remittances — is sympathetic to the surge of Central Americans. Instead, the data suggests Mexicans have turned against the migrants transiting through their own country, expressing antipathy that would be familiar to many supporters of President Trump north of the border.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/cont...da6-bd1d-39659863c4c7/?utm_term=.562160ce6e85
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Its unpopular here in Canada too. Only liberals are into it.
 
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