Trump tells Democratic women of colour to leave U.S. in 'racist and disgusting' tweet

OnTheWayOut · Jul 20, 2019

doggystyle99 said:
That is a not great support by anyones standards unless you are clueless to numbers or are blinded by your support for Trump that you view everything about him as a positive, 8% is actually insignificant, minimal, minor, small, little like his hands.[/SIZE][/B] Pick any of those words. And his support in the Black American community has gone down and is dwindling. .

Don't let facts get in your way, Politico article from June 11, 2019:

"The poll measured views of eight candidates: seven Democrats and President Donald Trump, whose job approval rating among African-Americans clocked in at 13 percent, with 82 percent disapproving."

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/11/biden-black-economic-alliance-poll-2020-1359082

His black support was at it's lowest point in the 2016 election and has been slowly rising since. Some black folks seem to appreciate the record low black unemployment figures and booming economy. Rasmussen Reports show that "Voters Say Trump Better for Blacks Than Obama, But More Is Needed".
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...tter_for_blacks_than_obama_but_more_is_needed

Kinda flies in the face of your rant, doesn't it? Them pesky facts just don't jive for you.

OnTheWayOut · Jul 20, 2019

explorerzip said:
Sorry, but nobody can claim the moral high ground here. Both Conservatives and Liberals are guilty of name-calling, stereotyping and both are overly sensitive about it. One group "hates America" while the other group are "racists." None of these labels make any difference to your daily life, which makes this whole argument a huge waste of time and energy. Surely, you have better ways to spend your time and energy? It should be obvious that no one is going to change the opposite side's opinions.

I find it hilarious that so many here think they know with total certainly how other people think or behave. Or when one group has certain beliefs then all of them must be the same.

I couldn't care less if Trump is a racist or if the 4 congresswomen hate America or not. It makes little difference to our daily lives. None of us are in a position to change it even if we decide to run for office. The only thing we can do is try to better ourselves while treating other people with the littlest bit of kindness and respect.

Maybe the best post ever on Terb political section. Way too many here guilty of painting people they disagree with with one brush: "I find it hilarious that so many here think they know with total certainly how other people think or behave. Or when one group has certain beliefs then all of them must be the same."

Thank you sir, I thought everyone here had gone mad!

explorerzip · Jul 20, 2019

slurp said:
Maybe the best post ever on Terb political section. Way too many here guilty of painting people they disagree with with one brush: "I find it hilarious that so many here think they know with total certainly how other people think or behave. Or when one group has certain beliefs then all of them must be the same."

Thank you sir, I thought everyone here had gone mad!

Thanks for the call out. I do think that most people can be calm and rational about issues like this as long as they are willing to and assuming they can drop the labels long enough to do so. Unfortunately, it's way too easy for people to get carried away (especially online) and others will get sucked in. It is maddening that people continue to fall into these same traps over and over again.

Knuckle Ball · Jul 20, 2019

slurp said:
Maybe the best post ever on Terb political section. Way too many here guilty of painting people they disagree with with one brush: "I find it hilarious that so many here think they know with total certainly how other people think or behave. Or when one group has certain beliefs then all of them must be the same."

Thank you sir, I thought everyone here had gone mad!

I don’t know what’s in anyone’s heart...but if you act like a racist, talk like a racist, and align yourself with racists...I think I can make an educated guess.

Knuckle Ball · Jul 20, 2019

explorerzip said:
Sorry, but nobody can claim the moral high ground here. Both Conservatives and Liberals are guilty of name-calling, stereotyping and both are overly sensitive about it. One group "hates America" while the other group are "racists." None of these labels make any difference to your daily life, which makes this whole argument a huge waste of time and energy. Surely, you have better ways to spend your time and energy? It should be obvious that no one is going to change the opposite side's opinions.

If you are a minority suffering the painful effects of racism then I would suggest that the “label” is having a profound impact on your life.

explorerzip said:
I find it hilarious that so many here think they know with total certainly how other people think or behave. Or when one group has certain beliefs then all of them must be the same.

When people endorse racist beliefs, promote racist policies, and align themselves with racists it means they are a racist. No exceptions.

explorerzip said:
I couldn't care less if Trump is a racist or if the 4 congresswomen hate America or not. It makes little difference to our daily lives. None of us are in a position to change it even if we decide to run for office. The only thing we can do is try to better ourselves while treating other people with the littlest bit of kindness and respect.

Racists have enjoyed kindness and respect for centuries. Appeasing racists only maintains the racist status quo.

Smallcock · Jul 20, 2019

Knuckle Ball said:
The “science” is controversial and far from being resolved on this issue. In fact, most researchers reject it. The only people who seem somehow invested in latching onto this particular research are racists and white supremacists.

If (hypothetically) you were genuinely interested in this research you would post articles that reflect the true nature of this discussion in the scientific literature rather than simply cherry picking articles that support your racist worldview.

What you have been doing is no different from what Zaibetter says about Muslims. He does not come out and say that Muslims are inferior to non-Muslims; instead, he just cherry picks news articles from around the world portraying Muslims doing bad things. He ignores any evidence of Muslims doing good things or stories about non-Muslims doing equally bad things. He works diligently to portray an ethnic minority in the most negative light possible...just like you do with this “research”.

That is what makes you a racist.

Again, it continues to perplex me as to why you people don’t just come out and declare yourselves racists instead of engaging in these absurd arguments. You are not fooling anyone and simply make fools of yourselves each time you do this.

What I've posted is the consensus among scientists in intelligence research. It's up-to-date. Provide a list of the "majority" of intelligence researchers that "reject" it. You won't be able to....

Go to the source, don't rely on journalists. The 100+ years of results of intelligence research and results is not a secret among academics in the field.

OnTheWayOut · Jul 20, 2019

Knuckle Ball said:
I don’t know what’s in anyone’s heart...but if you act like a racist, talk like a racist, and align yourself with racists...I think I can make an educated guess.

And your educated guess is just as poor as most on here.

OnTheWayOut · Jul 20, 2019

Knuckle Ball said:
If you are a minority suffering the painful effects of racism then I would suggest that the “label” is having a profound impact on your life.

When people endorse racist beliefs, promote racist policies, and align themselves with racists it means they are a racist. No exceptions.

Racists have enjoyed kindness and respect for centuries. Appeasing racists only maintains the racist status quo.

Problem is when the term racist is used so frivolously as it is these days, the true meaning and sources are hidden in the tidal wave. Too often it is thrown at people who do not deserve it, leaving the true racists to their own devices.

Knuckle Ball · Jul 20, 2019

slurp said:
Problem is when the term racist is used so frivolously as it is these days, the true meaning and sources are hidden in the tidal wave. Too often it is thrown at people who do not deserve it, leaving the true racists to their own devices.

I disagree. As we come to understand the many facets of racism it is clear that racism encompasses far more than simply, for example, whether or not someone uses the n-word or whether they have a friend who is a POC.

explorerzip · Jul 20, 2019

Knuckle Ball said:
If you are a minority suffering the painful effects of racism then I would suggest that the “label” is having a profound impact on your life.

When people endorse racist beliefs, promote racist policies, and align themselves with racists it means they are a racist. No exceptions.

Racists have enjoyed kindness and respect for centuries. Appeasing racists only maintains the racist status quo.

I am a visible minority and have plenty of racist language and behavior directed at me. At the end of the day, it is up to me and me alone to use those experiences in a positive or negative way. Racism certainly does have a profound impact on your life, but you get to choose if it's a positive or negative one.

People have forever experienced racism and it will forever be with us. There will always be people that are fearful and ultimately hateful of things they do not understand. Racism is not a problem that we can legislate or censor away. Our attempts thus far have made the problem much worse. Previous generations endured racism by focusing on their goals, families, banding together and supporting each other despite not having any laws protecting them.

Since you believe that people are automatically racist because they associate or support them, then the people that support the congresswomen must also be anti-Semites and hate America. We should then deport them because they are potential threats. No exceptions right? Never mind due process. Guilty by association.

How about we look at the totality of a person instead of the cursory glance you get on social media / television?

Frankfooter · Jul 20, 2019

Phil C. McNasty said:
FALSE!!! The black vote was about 5% for Republicans from 2004 to 2012. Trump got 3% more in 2016 which is impressive given the fact the media tries to consistently portray him as a "racist".

His approval right now among blacks is even higher than 8%, and if many blacks turnout to vote in 2020 Trump will win in a landslide

You are actually bragging that only 8% of black Americans voted for Trump?

The Oracle · Jul 20, 2019

Knuckle Ball said:
I disagree. As we come to understand the many facets of racism it is clear that racism encompasses far more than simply, for example, whether or not someone uses the n-word or whether they have a friend who is a POC.

I sincerely doubt most people living in Canada have witnessed real racism. I witnessed it the first time as a youngster living in West Lafayette Indiana. The gentlemen across the street was a deputy in the sheriffs dept and he made sure that there were no black families on the street. Used to pay them a visit my dad told me when they moved in. They didn't stay long

Friend of mine is a black guy who is from Cuba. He speaks fluent English, Spanish and Russian. His father was Russian and lived in Cuba during the time when the two countries were friendly.

He used to tell me of the times when he would visit Russia and of course the citizens just assumed that he wouldn't know what they were saying about him. Because I don't know about now but in those days there weren't any black people in Moscow. He told me that they would call him every expletive imaginable right in front of him. Everywhere he went people would shun him and treat him badly. He lives in Canada now and is living his version of the dream.

I also believe the race card is to easily used today. It's an attack strategy that isn't easily defended and lends itself to almost any situation.

bver_hunter · Jul 20, 2019

Phil C. McNasty said:

Trump defended attendees of his Greenville, North Carolina, rally where members of the crowd chanted "send her back" about Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), calling them "incredible patriots."

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...-supporters-criticizes-ilhan-omar-crn-vpx.cnn

The KKK must be "incredible patriots" to Trump as well. Their "go back home" chants on a daily basis is no different from his base's vile "send her back" one!!

The Oracle · Jul 20, 2019

Frankfooter said:
You are actually bragging that only 8% of black Americans voted for Trump?

I wonder what black America would think if they knew atrocities that were implemented on them historically by the Democratic party.

Like the Jim Crow Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

That's some pretty nasty stuff right there.

Darts · Jul 20, 2019

The Oracle said:
I also believe the race card is to easily used today. It's an attack strategy that isn't easily defended and lends itself to almost any situation.

Falsely accusing someone of racism (and sexual harassment and homophobia) is the 21st century version of the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch hunt.

Knuckle Ball · Jul 20, 2019

The Oracle said:
I wonder what black America would think if they knew atrocities that were implemented on them historically by the Democratic party.

Like the Jim Crow Laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

That's some pretty nasty stuff right there.

After the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed, the Dems and GOP switched roles...it began with Nixon’s southern strategy.

I’m sure you already know this...as do black people.

Black people are not stupid.

bver_hunter · Jul 20, 2019

Wonder what is the definition of sexual harassment, and racism in the right wingers books?? Guess, the KKK "Go Back" is acceptable to them as it is hardly different from racist / rapist Trump's tweets:

Trump’s "Go Back" Racist Epithet; Oh, So Familiar
Trump has dived deep into the septic tank before. But, folks, this is truly a new low

Somewhere, Richard Spencer, the white supremacist leader who attended the 2016 Republican convention in support of Trump and “sipped Manhattans as he matter-of-factly called for removing African-Americans, Hispanics and Jews from the United States,” is smiling triumphantly.

“Trust me. Trump thinks like me,” Spencer told AP reporter Steve Peoples back then. “Do you think it’s a coincidence that everybody like me loves Trump and supports him?”

No, Dick, we don’t think it’s a coincidence at all.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/07/16/trumps-go-back-racist-epithet-oh-so-familiar

The Oracle · Jul 20, 2019

Knuckle Ball said:
After the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed, the Dems and GOP switched roles...it began with Nixon’s southern strategy.

I’m sure you already know this...as do black people.

Black people are not stupid.

Education systems in the states are not exactly stellar Phil.

So no I'm not sold on how well their recent history is known to them.

And I think you mean Barry Goldwater not Nixon. https://www.npr.org/sections/codesw...voters-flee-the-republican-party-in-the-1960s

basketcase · Jul 20, 2019

The Oracle said:
I wonder what black America would think if they knew atrocities that were implemented on them historically by the Democratic party.....

I'm sure many of them are. They are also aware of the racism that is coming from the CURRENT Republican representatives.

OnTheWayOut · Jul 20, 2019

basketcase said:
I'm sure many of them are. They are also aware of the racism that is coming from the CURRENT Republican representatives.

Apparently the 5% increase in black voter support for Trump since the election would disagree with your accusation.

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