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I'm a fan of Netflix's Black Mirror. I've just finished watching this Season's "Striking Vipers" episode. What are everyone else's take on the relationship(s)? Hetero or Homo or something else? I found the trade-off at the end to perhaps be "fair" but not "equal".
 

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This season was really weak, its like they chickened out at end of every ep

Its pretty gay since he is interacting with another male (if the game itself was the turn on he could have played with his wife or another female)
 

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A friend of mine and I have gotten on this topic a few times (both of us love Black Mirror)...

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I definately think the "friend" is gay, as for the main character I don think so. Reason being, the friend is entering a virtual reality where he is a woman and having sex with a man, while the main character is having sex with a woman (regardless if its his friend on the other end)...its still very weird.

As for the trade-off, if both agree and are happy, its fair. As you said, its not equal. She's having physical intercourse, which might lead to something else...pregnancy, std, a relationship. While he's pretty much just jerking it to good porn.
 

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Is Karl really gay? Did he just experiment and find he likes the sensation that the woman receives? For me, I thought he acted more like an [porn] addict (both of them did). The wife was the one looking for the real deal.

I related to the main character, Danny.

If my wife buys me a VR system, I'll know what's up.
 

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The BBC episodes of Black Mirror are blow away, I haven't seen the Netflix's episodes. I will activate it once summer ends.

Maya Thurman-Hawke has joined the cast of Stranger Things. The daughter of two attractive actors of course she's going to be gorgeous. But can she act?

 

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I liked it. I can see truth in it. Like we are all spirits and the body is just a vessel. Is there really a female or male spirit or are we equivalent and equal in the spiritual body less realm. Thats why I don’t get why people take sex and intimacy so fucking seriously. Like we are just spirits trapped inside our bodies and just dancing and playing with other spirits. Why let human fabrications and fears hold us back from exploring and experiencing our true potential. I loved the episode BTW and giggled like a little bitch at some of the corny parts especially because some of these make out scenes were so fucking hot and passionate filled with tension and release that got me hard AF lmfao I could also see myself in what those guys ��**♂
 

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I could definitely see the future where unknowns are digitally banging each other digitally... and real life fucking is affected. Everyone is checking out of real life now.

I don't think one is 'gay' if they were to jump into a female's body to feel what they feel. Perhaps Danny was gay and wanted to please Karl and that was why Karl was so addicted?

Which season or eps do you prefer? "Black Museum" is my fav eps.
Metalhead without a doubt. Epic.
 

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I feel like the whole point of the episode was to show gay/straight etc are just inaccurate concepts of true human sexuality.
 

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I liked it. I can see truth in it. Like we are all spirits and the body is just a vessel. Is there really a female or male spirit or are we equivalent and equal in the spiritual body less realm. Thats why I don’t get why people take sex and intimacy so fucking seriously. Like we are just spirits trapped inside our bodies and just dancing and playing with other spirits. Why let human fabrications and fears hold us back from exploring and experiencing our true potential. I loved the episode BTW and giggled like a little bitch at some of the corny parts especially because some of these make out scenes were so fucking hot and passionate filled with tension and release that got me hard AF lmfao I could also see myself in what those guys ��**♂
My impression is that you're discounting the effect of biology on thinking, sexuality, "spirit". Maybe believing otherwise is a product of human fabrication.
 

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Which season or eps do you prefer? "Black Museum" is my fav eps.
Well there you go compare Black Museum against any in this season


Season 1 or 3 were probably the best imo (4 was a mixed bag of really good and really bad eps)
5 is weak
2 I am torn on.... shows weren't that good but were interesting so...
 

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As opposed to what ?

Great thread by the way!
Well the ep was about two straight dudes fucking each other through a video game. Basically implying human sexuality is more complex than we think. Just a piece of fiction though, BM is similar to twilight zone and outer limits
 

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Which season or eps do you prefer? "Black Museum" is my fav eps.
That was a very good one. My fave is the one with John Hamm. I forget the title. Something with Christmas in it, I believe.
 

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My impression is that you're discounting the effect of biology on thinking, sexuality, "spirit". Maybe believing otherwise is a product of human fabrication.
I think thats one of the messages the episode tries to portray. That our physical bodies and experiences take us away from our true core self. When those guys were in the virtual world they were free to be like absolute spirits and had the choice to take any body/vessel they wanted. At your purest core without external influence you should be able to dance with any unconstrained spirit. So our nature and nurture shape us, mold us and we develop our personality and ego. The stronger this influence is the further away we are from our truth, spirit and the core. When those guys tried kissing outside the video game they were disgusted when they shared the physical contact. However they still remained entangled in spirits even after they exited the game which started to affect their real life and relationships. It was so deep. Kind of how we get entangled with various relationships when our spirits get entangled. I would also be disgusted if I tried kissing another guy or even if a guy massaged me I would never want that even if I had the worst back pain I would still pick a female. But I understand why people would and do live this lifestyle. I know if the girl I loved was trans or something I think I still would love her. Maybe we shut ourselves off because of these nurture teaching and lose out of potential relationships that come across our paths.

I believe in this stuff because I fee this entanglement ATM with someone IRL thats not my SO. Even though we try our hardest to pretend it’s starting to crack our physical realms because the entangled keeps affecting our spirits that we are starting to even say the words while trying to have a normal conversation in the physical pretending like nothing is going on. I know exactly when she is thinking about me and she knows when I think about her. I know exactly when she is around even when I don’t see her. This was also happening in that show when the married guy tried cutting the other guy off. It was very well done.

Reason why I believe in this shit so bad is because I went deep deeep down this spiritual rabbit hole as far as it will go staying up for 2 years almost every till 3/4/5 in the morning getting like 2/3hrs of sleep and getting my brain into a complete state of delirium. I learned a lot about my spirit and core through this process. The most fucked up part is that a lot of the lessons I have learned have already been discussed by others like Oprah, or actualized and spiritual groups and I have never heard prior to my own journey. How it is possible to think the same and not even share the physical contact or interaction? Its all there for us to access and gain once we start integrating our core through these spiritual experiences.

Nikola Tesla said that in the universe there is a core, from which we obtain knowledge strength and inspiration and that our brain in only the receiver. Some brains are better than others however the core is out here for us to access anytime.

I think this episode is a way deeper than it appears on the surface.

However I also think we can’t be so selfish to only live in the spiritual and neglect our physical bodies. We need to value, respect, nourish and achieve a state of harmony and being and oneness with the spiritual and physical.
 

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I think thats one of the messages the episode tries to portray. That our physical bodies and experiences take us away from our true core self.
If you remove our physical bodies and experiences, where does our true core self come from?
 

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If you remove our physical bodies and experiences, where does our true core self come from?
This guy has a radical explanation for it.
“Reality is infinite consciousness and infinite imagination” ^ to me it seems like a very lonely explanation but this view as radical as it is does explain a lot.

I think our true core self comes and connects with the spirit and that it always exists. Not sure if there is another layer or layers. Our physical connects to our core through our spirit.

Some people think their computers/brains just shut off or stop working after they die and they are just the physical. They just cease to exist which is also a fair way to look at it.

Does it really matter what the truth is as long as you are living the life that you enjoy. I honestly don’t care if this is all a simulation or imagination or just physical and us delusional of the spiritual. It will not change one thing in how I live in the present.

I enjoy making connections and forming new experiences. The spirit seems to explain a lot behind it. I also enjoy fucking amazing pussy so maybe this is all an illusion to get me laid more often. Who knows, it doesn’t matter as long as you are enjoying it and living life the way you want to. I liked the episode because I connected with it on so many different levels but i also hated seeing myself in the guy and how he has the problems with his wife.
 
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