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jackal2006

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I've had many a discussion with very smart and educated immigrants that come to this country and this city under false pretenses. They're filtered based on education etc. but when they land here they can't work in their profession because of many reasons. It is their children that tend to benefit not them.

So. Do you regret coming to Canada and/or Toronto? If not, why?
 

clules

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I am sure this applies to everyone, not just the immigrants. Parents will sacrifice many things just so their kids can have a better life. My parents left Uganda in the 1970's to live a better and safer life in Canada.

I would choose to be a Taxi Driver or Custodian in a safe country as oppose to being a successful professional in a country where my family could be killed or tortured by the authorities.
 

danmand

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Sometimes. Sometimes not.
 

Combat Shock

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Leaving your home, your family and the country you grew up in won't ever be easy even if it was done for the right reasons and it worked out for the better.
 

icespot

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9 relatives killed by gun fire, including my grand father.
3 relatives wounded by gun fire.
My Childhood's best friend's mother murder by gun fire.
Every relative and friend at one point or order victim of crime, from kidnapping, rape, mischief, theft, robbery etc.
65% of family living below poverty.
At one time my birth place was the 6th most dangerous place in the world, inclusive of war zones.

So the answer to the question...

God save our Queen and Country....
 

Platon

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Immigrants with tech skills are having a blast here, they still can't afford to buy property but other than that they land very good jobs very fast. My company just hired two people who came here less than a month ago!!!
 

yomero5

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9 relatives killed by gun fire, including my grand father.
3 relatives wounded by gun fire.
My Childhood's best friend's mother murder by gun fire.
Every relative and friend at one point or order victim of crime, from kidnapping, rape, mischief, theft, robbery etc.
65% of family living below poverty.
At one time my birth place was the 6th most dangerous place in the world, inclusive of war zones.

So the answer to the question...

God save our Queen and Country....
WTF country did you come from, if I may ask?
 

richaceg

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You have to consider too that being a license nurse in other country doesn't qualify you as a licensed nurse here. You need to study again. It also applies to other professions I believe...
 

Darts

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I think many of the dudes who pick up the garbage on my street are recent immigrants from Africa. They are tall, husky and very black.
 

TuesdayCoat

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My father was a neurologist and surgeon from a third world country, and had been practicing for 28 years. He was the department head at the biggest hospital in the capital city. He knew that his qualifications would not be recognized when we moved to Canada, but he still sacrificed everything to get here. He spent the last 16 years of his life working as a Toyota car salesman before he was robbed and stabbed in Red Deer, Alberta. He never fully recovered and passed away 6 months later. That said, he told me before he passed that he never regretted his choices one bit, if it meant he was able to give me and my brother a better life. I'll forever be grateful for his sacrifice.

Many immigrants take jobs that carry a high risk of robbery, assault and/or murder. Their victimizer(s) are often fellow immigrants or 2nd generation, possibly also members of a "protected group".

https://globalnews.ca/news/5433133/gas-station-employee-robbery-toronto/
My father was killed by a redneck and his buddies on cruiser motorcycles.
 

danmand

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My father was a neurologist and surgeon from a third world country, and had been practicing for 28 years. He was the department head at the biggest hospital in the capital city. He knew that his qualifications would not be recognized when we moved to Canada, but he still sacrificed everything to get here. He spent the last 16 years of his life working as a Toyota car salesman before he was robbed and stabbed in Red Deer, Alberta. He never fully recovered and passed away 6 months later. That said, he told me before he passed that he never regretted his choices one bit, if it meant he was able to give me and my brother a better life. I'll forever be grateful for his sacrifice.
There are many stories like that. I know of a medical doctor that was dean of a medical University who had to make a living servicing computers. I personally did not have any problems like that. I came to Canada as an executive of a multinational company. Still, the Canadian system put up roadblocks: laughably, Canada did not recognize my European drivers licence although driver education was much better there than in Canada. I skirted the problem by travelling to California and renewing my US drivers licence, which I could turn in for a Canadian licence.
 

derrick76

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There are many stories like that. I know of a medical doctor that was dean of a medical University who had to make a living servicing computers. I personally did not have any problems like that. I came to Canada as an executive of a multinational company. Still, the Canadian system put up roadblocks: laughably, Canada did not recognize my European drivers licence although driver education was much better there than in Canada. I skirted the problem by travelling to California and renewing my US drivers licence, which I could turn in for a Canadian licence.
With regard to the driver education, are you from a Scandinavian country?
 

derrick76

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Smallcock

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There are many stories like that. I know of a medical doctor that was dean of a medical University who had to make a living servicing computers. I personally did not have any problems like that. I came to Canada as an executive of a multinational company. Still, the Canadian system put up roadblocks: laughably, Canada did not recognize my European drivers licence although driver education was much better there than in Canada. I skirted the problem by travelling to California and renewing my US drivers licence, which I could turn in for a Canadian licence.
It's unfortunate but it makes perfect sense and it shouldn't be any other way for something as critical as the medical field. A person needs to be trained using Canadian standards. Doing it any other way would be costly and create a loophole for abuse.
 

Darts

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My immigrant parents settled in rural Quebec. I don't understand why more immigrants don't do the same. It was (is) a great place to live and raise your kids. The only drawback was I had to leave to attend university.
 

danmand

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With regard to the driver education, are you from a Scandinavian country?
Yes

It's unfortunate but it makes perfect sense and it shouldn't be any other way for something as critical as the medical field. A person needs to be trained using Canadian standards. Doing it any other way would be costly and create a loophole for abuse.
I disagree. It would be practical to devise tests (theoretical and practical, lasting maybe 6 months) in order to ascertain if somebody is as qualified as a Canadian trained doctor. What is unreasonable is to require them to take the entire medical education again.
 

TuesdayCoat

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It's unfortunate but it makes perfect sense and it shouldn't be any other way for something as critical as the medical field. A person needs to be trained using Canadian standards. Doing it any other way would be costly and create a loophole for abuse.
The unfortunate thing is that there's a mismatch between the amount of doctors needed (i.e. doctors are overworked and understaffed here in Canada), but the industry has been historically very protective of its numbers. Out of 44 doctors from other countries who passed the certification exams (and there were 4 of these exams), the board only took in the top 3. The rest? Russian and Filipino doctors working as cooks, translators, cab drivers, etc. So to summarize, "we need more doctors" but at the same time "we can't let too many doctors in or we'll run out of work". My father was in the top 6 of those 44 who passed the exams in 1997.
 

danmand

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The unfortunate thing is that there's a mismatch between the amount of doctors needed (i.e. doctors are overworked and understaffed here in Canada), but the industry has been historically very protective of its numbers. Out of 44 doctors from other countries who passed the certification exams (and there were 4 of these exams), the board only took in the top 3. The rest? Russian and Filipino doctors working as cooks, translators, cab drivers, etc. So to summarize, "we need more doctors" but at the same time "we can't let too many doctors in or we'll run out of work". My father was in the top 6 of those 44 who passed the exams in 1997.
You are right. It is a doctor union thing. The same union that protects malpractice doctors.
 
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