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jcpro

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WyattEarp

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I do agree that the polls are bullshit.

However, I presume Trump supporters will be more avid and likely to turn up at his events. No matter who the Democrats nominate, they will likely have a strong electoral base but not the same type of participation.
 

Darts

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No matter who the Democrats nominate, they will likely have a strong electoral base but not the same type of participation.
The Dems can run a donkey in NY State, California, Oregon and Washington State and win huge majorities but that may not translate into all that many electoral votes. A repeat of 2016. Trump probably won't waste his time in those states.
 

WyattEarp

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The Dems can run a donkey in NY State, California, Oregon and Washington State and win huge majorities but that may not translate into all that many electoral votes. A repeat of 2016. Trump probably won't waste his time in those states.
All the Democrats who whine about the electoral college over and over again, tire me out. A quick gander and you can see the States who have run up enormous unfunded pension liabilities are securely Democrat. In other words, overcommitting resources have bought comfortable Democrat majorities in many Blue states.

In most Western countries, there is very little room for a secondary government entities (states) or even a tertiary entity (cities) to enact their own public policy apart from the central government to the extent they can in the United States.

In other words, Californians have the freedom to create the state they want within their boundaries and 80% of them can vote for the Democrat nominee. However, the enormous vote margin ran up in California doesn't count anymore than if the Democrat nominee received 50.1%. The other states are free to reject the California model under the same electoral system.
 

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There were more people in line for the bathroom at the Trump rally then there were total supporters at the Biden rally :D
 

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The hall wasn't even full for Trump and there was no crowd outside watching the big screen....just more Trump lies....quelle surprise!
 

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Democrats are washed up. How can anyone get excited about a Joe Biden or a Pocahontas? Not a single original idea in their heads, always stick to the status quo, have been in politics for decades without accomplishing anything... but people are supposed to rally around them? They're everything that people hate about career politicians.
 

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20,000 in attendance and he raised $25m in 24 hours (which I think is a record).
 

Butler1000

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20,000 in attendance and he raised $25m in 24 hours (which I think is a record).
I'm betting the timing of the donations are not a coincidence..........

I wonder if they will release small donation numbers.
 

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Democrats are washed up. How can anyone get excited about a Joe Biden or a Pocahontas? Not a single original idea in their heads,.
What ideas does Trump have?
Sanctions?
Coal?
Tax breaks for the super rich?
A stupid wall?

Those are dumb ideas.
 

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What ideas does Trump have?
Sanctions?
Coal?
Tax breaks for the super rich?
A stupid wall?

Those are dumb ideas.
This is a solid argument against direct democracy, most people are too stupid to understand policy.
 

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We know that this guy follows Trump at all his rallies:

But last night reignited one of the weirdest stories of the Trump era: that of Miami's Maurice "Michael the Black Man" Symonette, a former member of the murderous Yahweh ben Yahweh cult who mysteriously appears directly behind Trump at nearly every major campaign rally.

In 1990, federal prosecutors infamously charged Symonette with conspiring to commit two murders, and Symonette's own brother testified in court that Symonette had helped beat one man who later died and had poked a stick through the eye of another person. But a jury eventually acquitted Symonette. In the years following the case, he was charged with grand theft auto, carrying a weapon onto an airplane, and threatening a cop, but he each time he beat the rap. He then, of course, entered politics as "Michael the Black Man," an anti-Democratic Party protester who hung out with Rick Santorum and occasionally appeared on cable news.

Nowadays, Symonette doesn't just drive around to local Trump rallies in Florida. He turns up all over the country, including at the Arizona border with disgraced, racist Sheriff Joe Arpaio in 2018. Symonette also bizarrely appeared at a Miami campaign rally that was, according to Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office, funded by Russian agents.

Symonette turned up again, yesterday at Trump's rally, and most likely will be following the president around the country once more if history is any indication. In Orlando, Symonette and his team of "Blacks for Trump" supporters apparently were fronting some sort of band outside the rally and performing "Play That Funky Music White Boy" for whatever reason.
Then came the rally. Once again, Symonette was visible on television — only this time, he was missing his characteristic "Blacks for Trump" sign and corresponding shirt. (His materials used to link to a deranged-seeming website called Gods2.com, which accused Hillary Clinton of being tied to the Ku Klux Klan, along with other general nonsense.) Last night, he and his team instead wore T-shirts emblazoned with the slogan "Four More Years." Symonette himself held a "Trump 2020" sign.

But there's an even more bizarre piece to the story: Symonette in May 2018 filed for bankruptcy and claimed he was flat broke. He was later banned from bankruptcy court for five years after a judge claimed he was abusing the system in order to skirt creditors who said Symonette owed them money. The filings raise major questions about who might be funding Symonette's constant trips to Trump rallies. If you happen to know anything more about his potential connection to Trump, send us an email.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/...eturns-for-trumps-orlando-2020-rally-11199599

We now know why he is an avid supporter of Trump. Not only with his violent criminal record, but also because he posts the same lies about Hillary Clinton. Yet the right wingers on this board go on and on about "Violence by the Lefties"!!
 

Smallcock

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and Trump is stupid, insane and morally vacant. He is the antithesis of democracy
You mean that he's courageous enough to take stances that he knows might be unpopular with many but are necessary, so you paint him as a bad orangeman.
 

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You mean that he's courageous enough to take stances that he knows might be unpopular with many but are necessary, so you paint him as a bad orangeman.
And yet people call him a populist.

Of course you could say the same about every tyrant and dictator in history (apart from the orange-thing). Democracies are supposed to operate rather differently.

Personally, I think you're dead wrong. He hasn't the courage to think difficult issues through, make tough choices and govern for all the people. So he takes refuge at endless campaign rallies where he can hide behind the safe platitudes he know his adoring rump want to hear. He needs their cheers to feel like a winner, they want a billionaire beholden to them so they feel less like a threatened minority.

As with Kim in Singapore; as with the Wall Emergency, and the NAFTA Emergency; it's all stances. As fake as the hair.
 
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