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rocco_s

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Stick with the agencies. 250 an hr is amazing. There are so many young ladies with great service. I am slightly surprised independent sps are charging more and there is demand for it especially when you consider most have a cumbersome screening process.

No point complaining. Just stick with the agencies.
 

squeezer

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Stick with the agencies. 250 an hr is amazing. There are so many young ladies with great service. I am slightly surprised independent sps are charging more and there is demand for it especially when you consider most have a cumbersome screening process.

No point complaining. Just stick with the agencies.
Besides a handful of fools, I don't believe the demand is high. Just note how many try to tour to the US and other places because they can't find their outrageous fees fulfilled here. Yes, we hear about the crazy hotel prices but yet we ask for an outcall and they ask for extra money for a travel fee, WTF? LOL
 

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Besides a handful of fools, I don't believe the demand is high. Just note how many try to tour to the US and other places because they can't find their outrageous fees fulfilled here. Yes, we hear about the crazy hotel prices but yet we ask for an outcall and they ask for extra money for a travel fee, WTF? LOL
When an independent SP going to your house or hotel, sometimes an hour appointment take 3 hours from her time depends on traffic, pay gas or uber or cab. Those aren't free and time is money.So if she charge you 50-100$ don't complain about it. It's a simple business. Otherwise this is one of the reason why I do incall only. In this traffic conditions just not worth it anymore. Other is my privacy. These days many clients hide secret cameras in their place. So outcall become too complicated for me. I'm much more relaxed in my incall place and I can give you a better service. But good luck for the bargain hunters.
 

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victoriajolie

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The only screening I would consider are references. Unless you wish to share your real phone number and name with me, don't ask for mine.
Well at least you said reference.I had someone yesterday refusing to provide cell phone.He declined providing reference as well & last even deposit .On the claim his privacy would be breached.

As for asking more money for outcall as Iris mentioned 1h turn in 3hrs of our time plus taxi to get to the outcall round trip
But hey like you said wtf �� lol

I personally I don't envy agencies ladies..My worse clients were when I worked for agencies
 

Jasmine Raine

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I prefer references and board or SM presence. And real phone number. I offer both in return as far as reviews and online presence. And I entertain in my own home so that is a counter offer of privacy in return for real number.

I have said it before and will say it again, it is not right to lumps us all together and make it sound like no man should be booking an indy.
 

thumper18474

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C'mon people
this arguement has been going on for years
the ladies charge what the market will accept
why come here and complain
Its been said many..many time...this " Hobby" is an expensive past time to be involved in.
NOW these ladies have to deal with increases in accommodations..supplies and whatever else...just how much of these increases are they supposed to eat before they raise their prices???
we bitch about touring ladies...why dont they come here or there
when will they come back..
and so on

well why should they if they cant even cover their travel expenses?

bottom line
there are ladies at every price point
chose your level and do your homework
if you want to see a lady outside your price point...then make the decision to either pass or save up to see them

I cant believe we're having this conversation ...AGAIN!
 

uchual

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Not sure why this irks people so much. High cost and rising prices are always a good reason to complain, even if just to vent a little. Look at gas and grocery prices. They keep going up and, well, we have to take it or take it.

When it comes to SPs, well...Like it's been said. It's a matter of choice. Try to look for cheaper providers or stick to regulars, even if they keep jacking up prices for no apparent reason. This has happened to me with at least two of my regulars...They kept increasing prices until they reached the tipping point...Too bad, so sad. There are way too many choices, even if it's a gamble to try new providers.

I have to say that I'm a lucky expat and, in my motherland, there's always supply of beautiful and very affordable "señoritas" , so I can hold it and save my $ for the times I'm away.
 

VIPhunter

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Wait...They're CHARGING now....?


Since when?

I was with a stripper recently who wanted a rather significant bonus for a service I would consider normal in the vip.

I mentioned to her that one of the best things about running your own business is charging what you want.

However one of the great things about being a customer is saying...I sure as hell am not going to pay THAT!

And, so it goes.
 

richaceg

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I for one don't mind how much an SP charge for her services...the trick is to not book what you can't afford...and that's where terb comes into play...
 

shack

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When an independent SP going to your house or hotel, sometimes an hour appointment take 3 hours from her time depends on traffic, pay gas or uber or cab. Those aren't free and time is money.So if she charge you 50-100$ don't complain about it. It's a simple business. Otherwise this is one of the reason why I do incall only. In this traffic conditions just not worth it anymore. Other is my privacy. These days many clients hide secret cameras in their place. So outcall become too complicated for me. I'm much more relaxed in my incall place and I can give you a better service. But good luck for the bargain hunters.
But the agencies also have logistical problems to deal with and their rates are usually less.

With all due respect, the reality of the situation is that the client will usually be more concerned with his bottom line, not what the ladies expenses are. Businesses are always striving to reduce their costs to remain price competitive because they know that if another business is providing a similar product/service and charging less, that is where more of the consumers will go.

It is just a fact of life/business. If you can't stay price competitive for a comparable service/product, you will be losing business.
 

Autumn-desilva

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I fully agree with all the ladies. Different price points bring a different clientele. I prefer my clients at 300 and 350
A lot less drama and stress. I personally get longer appointments , I go on business trips a bit a more, and get more tips at my 350h rate

. We sp's provide services for a certain type ( our type who likes us)I dont think gents understand the extreme emotional labour, and toll it takes on spirit and engery to be "on" and provide excellent service to everyone passes screening.
Like some of these guys don't see us as women, with goals, dreams, personality, fears, feelings, obligations etc.. just pussy and face.

Indy providers provide an experience. You're paying for their time, experience, personality, engery, education, body, lifestyle etc. She chooses "you" you are special. Indy's dont see everyone. You as a client, have the skills to speak to an sp, corporate, respectful of her boundaries, you will get excellent service. (I hope)


I wouldn't get mad at a service I cannot afford. That's more of a "you" thing either than a "they" thing. Save up if want a lady that specific lady and her time. Or make more money where it isnt an issue for you


If you just want a nut and don't care much for additional connections, experience, independent business owner/entrepreneur etc, go elsewhere. There's a reason indy's are at a premium. It's their way. And as a woman I feel we have the right to choose who and when we want to share our bodies with.

Also note.... why would someone want to see 3-5clients when they can make the same or more with 1-2 client at a longer appointments. Mental health is important and sexual health. I've seen ladies burned out ,get depress, substance abuse, suicidal talks.

I think you guys should be more understanding. And stay in your price range and not hate on women who are making/charging more.

Keep seeing the agency girls not everyone is comfortable with ppl taking 40-60% of their money.
 

uchual

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But the agencies also have logistical problems to deal with and their rates are usually less.

With all due respect, the reality of the situation is that the client will usually be more concerned with his bottom line, not what the ladies expenses are. Businesses are always striving to reduce their costs to remain price competitive because they know that if another business is providing a similar product/service and charging less, that is where more of the consumers will go.

It is just a fact of life/business. If you can't stay price competitive for a comparable service/product, you will be losing business.
+1. It's a business, ladies. And the competition is fierce. You can justify the increases all you want, comparing yourselves to Gucci merchandise, or whatever. The bottom line is, there's a prince point when you exclude yourselves out of the market. And for every overpriced, tired princess, 10 fresh, eager newcomers are getting in the scene. Sorry if it sounds crude, but that's the reality, IMO.
 

kastoric

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Nothing wrong with ranting about this. I think most of us feel the indies here are priced too high for the average hobbyist (me included) but don't want to get shit on by speaking up.

My beefs are: (A) most want an hour when a lot of us just prefer 30 minutes (B) girls that are 5's and 6's at best asking for premium donations.
 

spraggamuffin

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Not everyone can afford to drive a Bentley.
Lot's of Kias and Hyundais in the industry.
 

uchual

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Not everyone can afford to drive a Bentley.
Lot's of Kias and Hyundais in the industry.
Have to LOL at this...So, you can afford a Bentley. Does this mean that you'd pay for it whatever the dealer asks for it? Maybe you can get exactly the same car for less. Would you still pay the higher price?

Let's say all Bentleys are priced the same. Is it the only luxury car in the market? Heck, maybe that Alfa Romeo is as luxurious, if not better, and for less $$. Would you still pay the premium?

So, it's not only a matter of what you can afford. It's a matter of preference, but also of being savvy with your money, while getting satisfaction at the same time. I know for a fact that I would pay more for something I really want, but that doesn't mean that there is no limit to price I would pay.
 

rocco_s

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Best thing to do is use agencies guys if the price point of independents are too high. There are so many gems at agencies. Mirage eyecandy hpl etc.
 
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