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Cost for independent SP rant

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Smallcock

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I think independents appeal to a specific type of hobbiest - one who is interested in some form of companionship beyond just sex. They want to be able to talk for extended time, share wine, get a 'connection', not be judged, therapy, and have this ongoing with the feel of exclusivity.

Agency-goers care less about any of that, and utilize SPs for physical reasons - sexual attraction and to get off.

So, in a way, independent SPs put in more work because they need better acting skills for prolonged periods of time, and may have to play the role of therapist in addition to being sex toy. Older experienced women are better at this game. Young agency SPs don't care for it and have a never-ending supply of horny hobbiests. Their bodies take more of a beating but they can recover quicker due to youth.

We all want and get different things out of the hobby, so pay any SP you want that suits your needs.
 

Garrett

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Given that independent SPs, are, on average (note that I say "on average"), older, uglier looking, and have worse attitude, the only conclusion is that they get clients that are either ill-informed (Americans or new to the hobby) or who are too lazy to venture out of their comfort zone and/or feel guilty by paying too little for sex. So, this thread is to educate the guys and help them to make an informative decision.
This is probably one of the dumbest things I have ever read on here.

In the realm of luxury items, there is a common theme:
* Why buy a Patek Philippe. My quartz watch or phone keeps better time.
* Why buy Allen Edmonds/Saint Crispins/whatever.. my Chuck Taylor's take me where I need to go.
* Why buy a Brioni suit. My Moore's suit or fancy black jeans (!) are all I need.

Life is short, and you should indulge in whatever luxury you can afford, and brings you happiness.
That is as complicated as it needs to be.

Where the comparison to luxury goods falls apart is all escorts are unique. If you want to see that one *person*, nothing else will do. If you want a better incall, or lingerie, or whatever, that usually all comes with a price. In addition, I generally prefer independents as for the great ones, I respect their "independence" and business sense to make it all work.

Beyond that, not all of us make the same money. The cost is proportional to income/assets. Some people scrape by to see escorts. Some just reach into petty cash. Judging others by your financial ruler is guaranteed to fail.
 

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I think independents appeal to a specific type of hobbiest - one who is interested in some form of companionship beyond just sex. They want to be able to talk for extended time, share wine, get a 'connection', not be judged, therapy, and have this ongoing with the feel of exclusivity.

Agency-goers care less about any of that, and utilize SPs for physical reasons - sexual attraction and to get off.

So, in a way, independent SPs put in more work because they need better acting skills for prolonged periods of time, and may have to play the role of therapist in addition to being sex toy. Older experienced women are better at this game. Young agency SPs don't care for it and have a never-ending supply of horny hobbiests. Their bodies take more of a beating but they can recover quicker due to youth.

We all want and get different things out of the hobby, so pay any SP you want that suits your needs.
So, in other words, independent SPs are just extremely overpriced SBs whom are easier to find and who have less standard deviation of quality. No wonder some of them are so scared of the growing SB market.
 

fall

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Agreed! Anytime a similar thread starts I think the aforementioned common sense quote ought to be posted.

Simba
And yet another one missed the point. Noone is arguing that anyone can pay SP what they want; the question is: what is fundamental economic reasons that allow independent SPs to have higher rates and yet find sufficient number of clients?
 

eternalbachelor

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WTF.
I'm starting to see rates $300 to $600. Are you guys crazy paying these rates for an hour? These women are just laughing all the way to the bank.
Where does this end? Or will the market correct itself. Similar to the stock market.
Come on give an average Joe a break.
Stop paying these women ticket to the millionaires club.
Thank you
Sorry if this annoyes anyone.
Have you tried asking for an Average Joe Break at a Rolex store or a Ferrari dealership?
 

simba_one

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And yet another one missed the point. Noone is arguing that anyone can pay SP what they want; the question is: what is fundamental economic reasons that allow independent SPs to have higher rates and yet find sufficient number of clients?
It's up to the individual (business owner) to determine their own economies of scale.

Simba
 

squeezer

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Squeeze my man you still don't get it:doh: Your not buying a car here your buying intimacy & escape. Of course if it was a car no amount of smoke & mirrors or salesmanship would get me to pay 10k more but were not buying cars here! Your missing Garrett's & many others points it's someone's choice & their freakin money! If they get a gold experience with provider A who charges five hun an hour & their happy what fackin business is it of yours or mine to say their foolish & overpaid? My buddy wanted me to shell out almost 5k for a ticket to last weeks Raptors game...I'm sure it would have been a great time but I'm not a huge b ball fan & declined. Should I've told him he's a fool the face value for that ticket was probably only a few hun? He went & had a great time, who the fack am I to judge what someone does with their money! Saying that would I spend five hun on an escort...prolly not! But I'm not going to heckle someone for doing it & not going to complain about SP's charging that much. That's just good business, charge more & work less if you can...go bitches go! The great thing about money Squeeze...there's billions out there you can always make more!
I get it, I get it but I don't buy into the bullshit. You're paying more for older, more attitude, a little heavier but hey, it's their dime so I don't care but if we can save a rookie or a tourist who might not know he has choices, then we've accomplished the beware of the Stefania mission (sorry, I couldn't resist).
 

oil&gas

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How likely a tourist with the kind of money to spend on
a $300--$600 /hr escort on top of other travelling expenses
could be unaware of such a thing called local escort
agency? There was a time I would not find any providers
other than escort agency in the yellow pages. Is that indies
are the only advertisers now?
 

squeezer

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How likely a tourist with the kind of money to spend on
a $300--$600 /hr escort on top of other travelling expenses
could be unaware of such a thing called local escort
agency? There was a time I would not find any providers
other than escort agency in the yellow pages. Is that indies
are the only advertisers now?
So why does the topic bother you so much? I actually get the resentment coming from the indys but the guys getting all hot and bothered over a topic, is odd. You have the money and want to spend 5, 6 , 1000 be my guest, no one is stopping you but why try to stifle some of us making a case for the prudent smarter hobbyist?
 

oil&gas

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I guess I am no more bothered by the topic
as you are bothered by the thought of some
tourist not as prudent as you choosing to see
some $300--$600/hr escort you can't afford.
 

The "Bone" Ranger

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I could say so many things to you right now but last time I insulted one of you guys on here the admins got mad at me and deleted my posts.

...good thing I have other places I can voice my opinion without filter. Hope you keep an eye out for it!
She is not kidding, it has just come to my attention that she has posted something on Twitter implying I sent her a message (fictitious & which even looks totally fake btw) which is really nasty. I would never display that type of behaviour with anyone. Very sad indeed.
 

blueray

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I guess I am no more bothered by the topic
as you are bothered by the thought of some
tourist not as prudent as you choosing to see
some $300--$600 escort you can't afford.
lol. I always love the “you can’t afford” posts from asshats. You may have made your money in oil, but you pass a lot of bad gas on this board. Clown.
 

squeezer

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lol. I always love the “you can’t afford” posts from asshats. You may have made your money in oil, but you pass a lot of bad gas on this board. Clown.
Clown or fool, the same thing I guess, LMAO.

She is not kidding, it has just come to my attention that she has posted something on Twitter implying I sent her a message (fictitious & which even looks totally fake btw) which is really nasty. I would never display that type of behaviour with anyone. Very sad indeed.
If she makes up shit like that imagine what she can do with the personal screening info she demands!!!
 

rocco_s

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So why does the topic bother you so much? I actually get the resentment coming from the indys but the guys getting all hot and bothered over a topic, is odd. You have the money and want to spend 5, 6 , 1000 be my guest, no one is stopping you but why try to stifle some of us making a case for the prudent smarter hobbyist?
Exactly. Why does he care if we are trying to educate fellow hobbyists. If you can afford to pay 1000 an hr go for it. I cannot. My monthly budget is 3000. I would like to prudent and spend my money wisely and have great service. The main point of this thread is you can get amazing service and an amazing menu with girls from agencies and sbs. I used to see some independents after the migrated from agencies because their service was good. But I realized it made no sense as I am looking for more of a physical satisfaction. I stuck with the agencies and am happy.
 

blueray

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Part of the problem with these threads is that they should be in the incall/Indy forums, not the lounge, as many of the lounge rats that we see in this thread do not contribute to the agency/Indy review sections that keep this board a indispensable wealth of info.
 
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