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Biden leads Trump by 'landslide proportions' in new national poll

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Finally the USA are waking up to reality!!

Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 13 points nationally, according to the latest Quinnipiac University survey.

In a national head-to-head matchup, the poll found Biden taking 53 percent against 40 percent for Trump, with the poll's assistant director describing it as a "landslide" margin.

Five other Democratic contenders also lead the president: Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) hold healthy leads over Trump, with Sanders up by 9 points, Harris ahead by 8 and Warren leading by 7.

South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) lead Trump by 5 points, with each posting a 47 to 42 split.

“It’s a long 17 months to Election Day, but Joe Biden is ahead by landslide proportions,” said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

Biden’s double-digit lead over Trump is largely driven by the gender gap. The former vice president edges Trump 47 percent to 46 among men. But among women, Biden leads by 26 points, 60 to 34.

Similarly, white voters are split evenly between the two, with Trump at 47 percent and Biden at 46. But Biden leads 85 to 12 among black voters and 58 to 33 among Hispanics.

Both candidates surpass 90 percent support from within their own parties, but independents break for Biden by a 58 to 28 margin.

National polls are not necessarily the best indicator for a general election, which will be fought in a handful of swing states.

In 2020, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin will be the primary battlegrounds.

Trump became the first GOP nominee since 1988 to win those three states. If the rest of the 2016 map stays the same but Democrats are able to win those back, they’ll win the Electoral College.

And the Quinnipiac survey has some good news for Trump, finding that his job approval is on the rise.

“The Trump bump to 42 percent job approval is nothing to sniff at," said Malloy. "It’s one point shy of the best Quinnipiac University survey number ever for President Trump.”

Trump’s job approval is boosted by voter optimism about the economy.

Seventy percent of Americans described the economy as “excellent” or “good.” And 77 percent said their own personal financial situation is “excellent” or “good,” which is close to the all-time high of 78 percent recorded in April of 2018.

Still, only 41 percent of voters said Trump deserves credit for the economy.

“A very sturdy economy and folks with money in the bank. That’s the magic combo the White House hopes to ride to reelection and those numbers remain solid,” Malloy said. “But Trump does not get that much credit.”

The Quinnipiac survey of the Democratic primary field finds Biden’s support dipping slightly, from 35 percent in the May survey to 30 percent presently. Biden reached as high as 38 percent support in the poll shortly after launching his bid in late March.

But Biden still has a double-digit lead over Sanders, the next closest contender, at 19 percent. Warren, who has been on the rise, comes in at 15 percent, up 2 points from May.

Buttigieg is at 8 percent, up 3 points from last month, followed by Harris at 7 percent.

The Quinnipiac University survey of 1,214 voters nationwide was conducted from June 6 to June 10 and has a 3.5 percentage point margin of error. The survey of 503 Democrats has a 5.4 percentage point margin of error.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...by-landslide-proportions-in-new-national-poll
 

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It's over, then. Trump should concede. Of course the presidential election is not based on the national polls, but on the electoral college and county by county results. Hillary found that out, eventually. Joe's boosters in the media might, too. Although, I doubt it.
 

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After being briefed on a devastating 17-state poll conducted by his campaign pollster, Tony Fabrizio, Mr. Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing Mr. Biden in many of the states he needs to win, even though he is also trailing in public polls from key states like Texas, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And when top-line details of the polling leaked, including numbers showing the president lagging in a cluster of critical Rust Belt states, Mr. Trump instructed aides to say publicly that other data showed him doing well.

As ominous as the general election matchups in the new Quinnipiac poll are some of the other questions it posed. For instance, the vast majority of the country (7 in 10 people) regards the economy as good — a finding that would appear to be Trump’s ace in the hole. But 41 percent say it’s good and also credit Trump for that. Among independents, 6 in 10 either say the economy is not good or that Trump deserves no credit. Thirty-four percent think it’s good, thanks to Trump.

Trump also trails each Democrat among independents by at least 15 points, so even if you think the sample is off in some way, that’s a pretty grim starting point. Trump won independents in 2016, according to exit polls, by four points. He trails Biden among them by 30 points.

Trump was asked about the Times report and his standing in the poll shortly before the Quinnipiac poll dropped Tuesday, and all he could muster is that there is a Rasmussen poll showing him at 50 percent approval. Rasmussen has frequently been Trump’s best poll, with no other pollster consistently mirroring its numbers.

Asked whether he instructed aides to lie about the polls, Trump said: “I never do. My poll numbers are great. The amazing thing is all I do is get hit by this phony witch hunt.”

He went on to decry the public polls showing him trailing as “fake polls” that are meant to suppress votes, which isn’t how push-polling works. (There is no sense in suppressing votes 17 months before an election.)

What’s clear is that Trump was worried about his polls before Tuesday, and now he must be even more worried. It’s beginning to appear that if the Democrats can avoid their candidate being torn apart by the primary process and then Trump, they’re in a really good position to start.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-brutal-2020-poll-numbers-for-trump/ar-AACJk0s?ocid=sf
 

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It's over, then. Trump should concede. Of course the presidential election is not based on the national polls, but on the electoral college and county by county results. Hillary found that out, eventually. Joe's boosters in the media might, too. Although, I doubt it.
Trump should resign for corruption, incompetency and his continuing mental decline.
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/12/ya...steadily-deteriorating-for-some-time_partner/

But he won't as he knows that once he's no longer POTUS he'll be charged for the numerous crimes he's been committing.
 

jcpro

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Trump should resign for corruption, incompetency and his continuing mental decline.
https://www.salon.com/2019/06/12/ya...steadily-deteriorating-for-some-time_partner/

But he won't as he knows that once he's no longer POTUS he'll be charged for the numerous crimes he's been committing.
Tell that to the American people. 57% think he's doing just fine on the number one issue- the economy. Btw, the same poll had Hillary up by 18% in 2015. I wouldn't be celebrating just yet, were I you.
 

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Tell that to the American people. 57% think he's doing just fine on the number one issue- the economy. Btw, the same poll had Hillary up by 18% in 2015. I wouldn't be celebrating just yet, were I you.
Every dem candidate is wupping Trump's ass at the polls now.
Trump keeps daring Pelosi to impeach, sooner or later she'll do it.
Trump’s Lawyers Say Congress Can’t Subpoena His Finances Because Nancy Pelosi Refuses to Impeach
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/trump-mazars-subpoena-nancy-pelosi-impeachment.html

Enough of the despot.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...ctators-because-hes-an-american-authoritarian
 

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Means absolutely squat. I think Biden may have trouble securing the Un Democratic Party nomination his lead is slipping. He also seems to be low energy just like HRC was in 2016.
 

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Polls at this stage are infotainment. Most people have no idea what the policies are of the Democrat candidates. Trump is running against people's dream candidate that doesn't exist. The Democrat nominee likely will have to march into the general election battle saddled with many policies not terribly palatable to moderate/independent voters. Biden is already saddling himself with more liberal policies than his history suggests.

Some people have mentioned the electoral college. Yes, the Democrat nominee could garner 75% of the vote in California and it won't matter in the result.

Whether we believe some pollsters put their thumb on the scale for propaganda purposes, some voters don't seem comfortable revealing their support for Trump to pollsters. Trump seems to have some hidden support not picked up by polls. This is attributable to the liberal media's all-out war on Trump and his supporters.
 
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Amazing but not shocking. I've been saying for the last couple years the Dems have learned nothing from 2016. Keep up the good work libs!
 

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We have had a mid term that clearly showed where most Americans stood in regard to this political spectrum. The country has not moved further far right as all the right wingers are implying.
No doubt the majority of the Independents have had enough of these ridiculous politics that include tariffs that are beginning to hurt the wallets of the Americans as well as the manufacturers and those in the dairy industry. Of course the moron in the Whitehouse is playing down this catastrophe, and bullshitting himself that countries like China will capitulate to these over the top tariffs!!
 

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bver_hunter, what would be your suggestion for an end game with China? I hear some people saying the tariffs are stupid. Mostly I hear anti-Trump people with no solution to a growing problem. So what's the end game? Tell me what you think should be done.

That's probably a problem in all democratic politics. It's easy to criticize the opposition without offering specifics on your solutions. By the way, Chuck Schumer and other prominent Democrats have supported the trade war.

I'm not sure how the 2018 midterm becomes the standard for gauging U.S. political sentiment. Even if we assume the parties are static entities (which they are not), why would the 2016 election be dismissed? The economy is still stronger under Trump. Democrats will play the lack of Republican healthcare solutions to their advantage. The Republicans will probably play their advantage on immigration and border policies. The border crisis was dismissed jointly by the Democrats and the liberal media in typical midterm electioneering. Presidential elections give loud microphones to both parties and people will hear more about the problems on the border.
 

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bver_hunter, what would be your suggestion for an end game with China? I hear some people saying the tariffs are stupid. Mostly I hear anti-Trump people with no solution to a growing problem. So what's the end game? Tell me what you think should be done.

That's probably a problem in all democratic politics. It's easy to criticize the opposition without offering specifics on your solutions. By the way, Chuck Schumer and other prominent Democrats have supported the trade war.

I'm not sure how the 2018 midterm becomes the standard for gauging U.S. political sentiment. Even if we assume the parties are static entities (which they are not), why would the 2016 election be dismissed? The economy is still stronger under Trump. Democrats will play the lack of Republican healthcare solutions to their advantage. The Republicans will probably play their advantage on immigration and border policies. The border crisis was dismissed jointly by the Democrats and the liberal media in typical midterm electioneering. Presidential elections give loud microphones to both parties and people will hear more about the problems on the border.
wyattearp, do you realize that the farmers and a number of US manufacturers are being hurt. So are a substantial population on minimal income that depend on cheap China imports. That is a fact in today's society where the rich are getting wealthier by the day, while the lowest income are now in danger of moving into the poverty zone. There should have been serious negotiations with China and without all the rhetoric to make China look like dumb and weak politicians who would cave in very easily. Adding more and more tariffs by both nations to flex their muscles is not the solution, and Trump is blatantly lying by saying that China will solely pay the price for it. So you think that the trade war is good news?? Who exactly pays for the tariffs imposed, if in your opinion the consumers in the US do not do so?? Why are the Farmers also up in arms against these tariffs.
 

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.....and Clinton led by massive amounts and was a sure winner in the last elections, until the results came in.

Mainstream media had a bias then, and they have bias now. It's not over til it's over, and the race has barely begun; so don't count your chickens before your eggs hatch.... or something like that.

Anyway, I get that Trump has lost popularity because of the trade/tariff war he launched against China. However, the progressives here in Canada are backing Freeland in her fight against China, but the whole thing was caused initially by Trump's administration weaponizing their judicial system by trying to shut out Huawei by discrediting them and getting Canada do the dirty work and arresting their CFO. Clearly, Freeland is Trump's ally. But the progressives can't get over their schizophrenia. You cannot support Freeland and her aggressive stance towards China, while at the same time be against Trump in his trade war with China.

BTW, contrary to popular perception, I do not support Trump and his policies. However, he did win the elections, and the Democrats should respect their namesake (democracy) and get on with life. No matter what one may think of Trump, trying to oust him and nullifying a democratic process because one doesn't like him is subversive and an affront to democracy.
 

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Trump is a divisive person on the international stage and we have seen how he is alienating all the allies like The EU and NATO. Yes there should be tariffs against China but in such a manner that you get all the allies on board with it. But trying to be a bully in the manner in which you send that signal, will not get China to budge a centimetre. However if all the allies were behind Trump in this respect, then no doubt there would have been more leverage against China. Trump has managed to create chaos and confusion in this respect. Yes Canada is a pawn in this whole affair. Canada had to battle Trump in the whole NAFTA agreement. Freeland in that respect stood strong till Trump realized that Congress would not approve of The USMCA without Canada's participation. Only the Conservatives cannot accept that fact.

Trump won the elections thanks to the manner in which the Electoral College was setup. But his whole performance on the international stage, has meant that he is an embarrassment in the manner in which he took Putin's and Kim Jong Un's trust over the Intel Agencies. When are all the Americans going to wake up to that fact??
 

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bver_hunter, what would be your suggestion for an end game with China? I hear some people saying the tariffs are stupid. Mostly I hear anti-Trump people with no solution to a growing problem. So what's the end game? Tell me what you think should be done.
Help their workers unionize and fight for social services that raise their business costs.
 

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.....and Clinton led by massive amounts and was a sure winner in the last elections, until the results came in.

Mainstream media had a bias then, and they have bias now. It's not over til it's over, and the race has barely begun; so don't count your chickens before your eggs hatch.... or something like that.

Anyway, I get that Trump has lost popularity because of the trade/tariff war he launched against China. However, the progressives here in Canada are backing Freeland in her fight against China, but the whole thing was caused initially by Trump's administration weaponizing their judicial system by trying to shut out Huawei by discrediting them and getting Canada do the dirty work and arresting their CFO. Clearly, Freeland is Trump's ally. But the progressives can't get over their schizophrenia. You cannot support Freeland and her aggressive stance towards China, while at the same time be against Trump in his trade war with China.

BTW, contrary to popular perception, I do not support Trump and his policies. However, he did win the elections, and the Democrats should respect their namesake (democracy) and get on with life. No matter what one may think of Trump, trying to oust him and nullifying a democratic process because one doesn't like him is subversive and an affront to democracy.
Don't believe that Trump lost support over the China tariffs. The cost of imports from China, despite the tariffs, have NOT increased. Actually, they decreased by 1.4% in the last year, mostly due to the Chinese exporters cutting prices to retain the market share.on the American market.
 

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Today's tweet:

TRUMP PREDICTS 'MARKET CRASH THE LIKES OF WHICH HAS NOT BEEN SEEN BEFORE' IF HE IS NOT REELECTED IN 2020
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-pred...-seen-before-if-he-not-reelected-2020-1444180

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
The Trump Economy is setting records, and has a long way up to go....However, if anyone but me takes over in 2020 (I know the competition very well), there will be a Market Crash the likes of which has not been seen before! KEEP AMERICA GREAT

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Don't believe that Trump lost support over the China tariffs. The cost of imports from China, despite the tariffs, have NOT increased. Actually, they decreased by 1.4% in the last year, mostly due to the Chinese exporters cutting prices to retain the market share.on the American market.
The above statement is false and non factual.
Imports from China have had a significant tariffs put on them which in return has made it more expensive for certain industries to produce those products with raw materials imported from China. Trump has lost support over the China tariffs only a blind fool can not see that.
If he doesn't stop his foolishness with China they will end up fucking the U.S out of rare earths. What does that mean for the U.S??? It means many different products that are used daily will be more expensive. Rare earths are also used in weaponry and what does that mean??? The U.S would have to increase their military spending by a large percentage due to the higher costs associated with producing these weapons or they can reduce their military budget :bump2::bump2::bump2: which will never happen.

So in short if this nonsens by Trump doesn't stop the U.S is fucked and with a lagging U.S economy the rest of the world will struggle. This can also benefit China as they can step up to other countries and take the lead on trade away from the U.S so in short no matter how you look at it the United States is fucked.
You should take your blinders off and get out of the Trump circle jerk it will help you see better.
 
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