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Biden leads Trump by 'landslide proportions' in new national poll

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I think the liberal media is surprised that most people yawned when they started reporting on their 2020 polls. Oh brother, we have 17 more months of this shit. Between now and then, the liberal media is going to tell us 13,000 times how we Americans think.
 

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I doubt if AOC's the answer. She's a bit too resentful and pie in the sky. When leaders have desired to entirely recreate society, that historically has taken civilizations to the darkest evil. She's even too liberal for the Scandinavians. I do like looking at AOC's giant breasts though. ;)

You might not like Trump's tax rates or his international diplomacy or this and that, but Trump has shaken things up. Let's bring this back to another guy who wants to shake things up like Bernie Sanders. He has been against free trade and he certainly is against trade with China. At one point very recently, he was also against illegal immigration.

See where I went with that. Trump had several views that were once shared across the ideological spectrum. The nature of the two party system is to find (or create) differences and disagree. The masses then choose their side and argue vehemently for whatever the policies their team is advocating.
AOC is too young for now, but Warren's coming up strong.
Warren describes the difference: "Donald Trump says, ‘Your life isn’t working, and the reason is all those people who don’t look like you. They’re not the same race as you, they don’t worship like you, they don’t talk like you. So blame them.’ His answer is: divide working people. It’s racist. And, ultimately, it makes everyone poorer."

Kolhatkar also provides a glimpse of how well Warren's proposed wealth tax is playing out, as Warren reminds people that middle-income voters -- whose only substantial asset is likely to be their home -- already pay an annual wealth tax in the form of property taxes: "All I want to do that’s different is include the Rembrandt and the diamonds!" (to which an audience member yells, "And the yacht," and Warren agrees, saying "And the yacht with the Imax theatre!").
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/06/24/can-elizabeth-warren-win-it-all

On September 20, 2016, John Stumpf, the C.E.O. of Wells Fargo, appeared before the Senate Banking Committee to defend his company’s role in one of the biggest financial scandals in recent memory. Wells Fargo employees, who were under pressure from senior management to meet overly aggressive sales targets, had opened more than two million bank and credit-card accounts for customers who had never asked for them.

The tone of the questioning was initially courteous. Then Elizabeth Warren spoke. Peering over her glasses, she launched into a series of questions so scathing that the Senate chamber fell silent. “Since this massive, years-long scam came to light, you have said repeatedly, ‘I am accountable,’ ” Warren said to Stumpf. “But what have you actually done to hold yourself accountable? Have you resigned as C.E.O. or chairman of Wells Fargo? . . . Have you returned one nickel of the millions of dollars that you were paid while this scam was going on?”

Warren pressed Stumpf on whether he had fired any senior executives over the revelations (he hadn’t); paraphrased his comments, on an earnings call, about how lucrative the sales-quota strategy had been; and asked him to tell the audience how much money he had made personally as the company’s share price shot up during the years of the fraud. When Stumpf declined to answer, Warren supplied the number: two hundred million dollars.

“A cashier who steals a handful of twenties is held accountable, but Wall Street executives almost never hold themselves accountable,” Warren said. “Not now, and not in 2008, when they crushed the worldwide economy. The only way that Wall Street will change is if executives face jail time when they preside over massive frauds.” She declared that Stumpf should be criminally investigated, accusing him of “gutless leadership.”

A video of the exchange, posted on YouTube, became a sensation. One news site called it an “epic takedown”; another described Warren “verbally destroying” Stumpf. In May, when I met Warren on the campaign trail, she told me that she was “furious” as she went into the hearing. “He was building a business model for a huge financial institution that was built on knowingly cheating people,” she said. “I figured that he deserved every punch he got.”
 

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Warren unfortunately isn't for Medicare for all, voted for the increased military budgets and has stated she will accept corporate money.

She also just doesn't have the Charisma or excitement factor.
Not to mention the fact that she used her phony Native Indian heritage to gain an advantage. She's going nowhere.
 

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Not to mention the fact that she used her phony Native Indian heritage to gain an advantage. She's going nowhere.
In a political party obsessed with identity, this would seem to be a dealbreaker. I would give anything to see Kamala Harris call Elizabeth Warren "Pocahontas" on the debate stage.
 

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If he doesn't stop his foolishness with China they will end up fucking the U.S out of rare earths. What does that mean for the U.S??? It means many different products that are used daily will be more expensive. Rare earths are also used in weaponry and what does that mean???
My impression is that there has been a lot of misinformation being reported about rare earths from China.

From what I have understood the pass few years, is the Americans really don't have any. Not in the quantities they need.

If they get cut off, then the Americans will take years to ramp up production, but it is unknown if they can actually find what they need.


How China Could Shut Down America’s Defenses

By Keith Johnson, Lara Seligman | June 11, 2019, 5:10 PM

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/06/11/how-china-could-shut-down-americas-defenses-rare-earth/
 

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June 13, 2019 / 5:37 PM / 5 days ago

Over 600 U.S. companies urge Trump to resolve trade dispute with China: letter

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...trade-dispute-with-china-letter-idUSKCN1TE36K

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I support Trump administration here. China has way more to lose than the US. He's using tariffs as leverage. China's leadership is smart they know that they have to make adjustments on their end. If Trump does get them to partially float their currency it's a huge win. We'll see what happens. Yes the markets don't like uncertainty but they do like jobs created and economic growth.
 

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This is a good article related to the US - China geopolitical contest.


On Hostile Coexistence with China

Chas Freeman
2019-05-03

https://chasfreeman.net/on-hostile-coexistence-with-china/
I think this is the opinion you could expect of a U.S. Foreign Service alum. Lots of hope in talks, markets and multilateralism. U.S. diplomacy in the late 20th century was built around economic appeasement. Our markets were far more open to any country in the belief that it would bring them into the Western sphere, encourage them to liberalize their economies and make them responsible global participants. It's worked to some extent, but it's failed with actors like China and Russia.

The Chinese Communist Party believes it has an eternal recipe for economic growth while controlling the economy and holding on to power.
 

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I don’t see Biden getting to the start line much less the finish line.
 

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I don’t see Biden getting to the start line much less the finish line.
I think the debates will hurt him bad. He misses out on Warren in the first round but it will happen. She will make him look stupid.
 

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I don’t see Biden getting to the start line much less the finish line.
I agree he will fizzle out sooner or later. Which moderate running benefits the most? Currently, Biden is overshadowing all the other moderates.

Biden seems to be trying to run as a moderate while appeasing and apologizing to the far left. His campaign seems to lack focus. This is why we have primaries. Candidates with the clearest and most articulate messages stand out
 

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I think the debates will hurt him bad. He misses out on Warren in the first round but it will happen. She will make him look stupid.
Sanders and Warren have long help policy views that are well aligned with the left wing of the Democratic Party. Biden is a less smart, evil and tough Hillary.
 

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I think the debates will hurt him bad. He misses out on Warren in the first round but it will happen. She will make him look stupid.
Warren has overtaken Sanders in the polls. No doubt Biden is on her radar. Whoever wins are the ones that will decimate Trump in the debates. Biden is not that stupid as you make him out to be. The American voters know exactly what he stands for and accordingly they are aligning themselves with his road to the Whitehouse. Obviously, when Biden is nominated you will hope that your idol Trump will win. Wishful thinking!!
 

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Warren has overtaken Sanders in the polls. No doubt Biden is on her radar. Whoever wins are the ones that will decimate Trump in the debates. Biden is not that stupid as you make him out to be. The American voters know exactly what he stands for and accordingly they are aligning themselves with his road to the Whitehouse. Obviously, when Biden is nominated you will hope that your idol Trump will win. Wishful thinking!!
Warren has not overtaken Sanders. Look at fundraising and rally size. Not polls. Especially this early.

Have you actually taken the time to watch a Biden speech lately. Heavy on rhetoric and anecdotes, light to no policy.

He is all name recognition and Obama's buddy at this point. The debates will expose the flaws.

Well that and demanding an apology from a Black Senator after stating racially insensitive remarks.
 

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Warren has not overtaken Sanders. Look at fundraising and rally size. Not polls. Especially this early.

Have you actually taken the time to watch a Biden speech lately. Heavy on rhetoric and anecdotes, light to no policy.

He is all name recognition and Obama's buddy at this point. The debates will expose the flaws.

Well that and demanding an apology from a Black Senator after stating racially insensitive remarks.
Warren has overtaken Sanders in the polls.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2019/06/19/lead-lee-dnt-warren-live-jake-tapper.cnn

She is the only candidate that has clearly fully laid out her plans. Biden is the middle of the road candidate that the Americans trust the most. I know you prefer your idol Trump over him by a mile.
Despite Biden's gaffes, he still has a strong African American base. There are definitely more Blacks willing to support him rather than Trumpty Dumpty:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-black-voters-south-carolina-support_n_5d0d6203e4b07ae90d9d3a90
 

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Warren has overtaken Sanders in the polls.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2019/06/19/lead-lee-dnt-warren-live-jake-tapper.cnn

She is the only candidate that has clearly fully laid out her plans. Biden is the middle of the road candidate that the Americans trust the most. I know you prefer your idol Trump over him by a mile.
Despite Biden's gaffes, he still has a strong African American base. There are definitely more Blacks willing to support him rather than Trumpty Dumpty:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/biden-black-voters-south-carolina-support_n_5d0d6203e4b07ae90d9d3a90
Lol one university poll.

USA Today put out another one same day that had Sanders up over 6 points on her. Look it up.

But the press needs an "exciting" race leading up to things.

And now you are touting 2 candidates over Sanders. Just to be contrarian. I think you are hedging your bets because you already see Biden isn't going to make it.

Warren won't either.
 

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Some of us are old enough to remember George McGovern.
 
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